Current Events > As someone who believes in God I find the existence of the devil impossible

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JonTaylorThomas 12/09/19 3:09:32 PM #1:	God is a flawless infinite being. He/She is perfect. Therefore God cannot create the devil. Unless God wanted the devil to exist. Because if God didn't want the devil to exist and the angel Michael revolted against God's will, that means God screwed up. God cannot screw up. I don't think the devil exists. --- https://imgur.com/a/DbdLrIG.jpg <cite>JonTaylorThomas posted [p:931331478] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>God is a flawless infinite being. He/She is perfect. Therefore God cannot create the devil. Unless God wanted the devil to exist. Because if God didn't want the devil to exist and the angel Michael revolted against God's will, that means God screwed up. God cannot screw up. I don't think the devil exists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsChum 12/09/19 3:11:20 PM #2:	JonTaylorThomas posted... Unless God wanted the devil to exist. shrugs Maybe he did. I mean, humans exist, after all. --- This is the account I use when I want to make more than ten topics on CE in one day. <cite>DevsChum posted [p:931331546] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>JonTaylorThomas posted... </cite> <quote>Unless God wanted the devil to exist.</quote>shrugs Maybe he did. I mean, humans exist, after all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Supernatural 12/09/19 3:17:58 PM #3:	How did got screw up. We can't see the whole picture. --- Carry on my wayward son. <cite>Supernatural posted [p:931331804] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>How did got screw up. We can't see the whole picture. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/09/19 3:19:42 PM #4:	But the Devil does exist in the Christian mythos --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:931331872] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>But the Devil does exist in the Christian mythos </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 12/09/19 3:21:33 PM #5:	Hail Satan! --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://i.imgtc.ws/Zl0aw6F.png <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:931331956] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>Hail Satan! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 12/09/19 3:30:13 PM #6:	Batman created his villains, so did God. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:931332301] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>Batman created his villains, so did God. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malfunction 12/09/19 3:31:52 PM #7:	I think a supreme omnipotent being would likely have a different concept of good or bad or imperfect or screwing up to how we perceive them <cite>Malfunction posted [p:931332375] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>I think a supreme omnipotent being would likely have a different concept of good or bad or imperfect or screwing up to how we perceive them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tonyjaa 12/09/19 3:47:56 PM #8:	JonTaylorThomas posted... God is a flawless infinite being. He/She is perfect. Therefore God cannot create the devil. Unless God wanted the devil to exist. Because if God didn't want the devil to exist and the angel Michael revolted against God's will, that means God screwed up. God cannot screw up. I don't think the devil exists. The angel Michael never revolted against God's will. I think you are confusing him with Lucifer. Michael is the leader of God's angelic forces against Lucifer. <cite>Tonyjaa posted [p:931333111] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>JonTaylorThomas posted... </cite> <quote>God is a flawless infinite being. He/She is perfect. Therefore God cannot create the devil. Unless God wanted the devil to exist. Because if God didn't want the devil to exist and the angel Michael revolted against God's will, that means God screwed up. God cannot screw up. I don't think the devil exists.</quote> The angel Michael never revolted against God's will. I think you are confusing him with Lucifer. Michael is the leader of God's angelic forces against Lucifer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slaya4 12/09/19 3:52:30 PM #9:	I also feel like what Satan did to Adam and Eve wasn't that bad tbh. If I were in his shoes, I'd probably do the same. --- Am I going too hard? <cite>Slaya4 posted [p:931333315] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>I also feel like what Satan did to Adam and Eve wasn't that bad tbh. If I were in his shoes, I'd probably do the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 12/09/19 3:58:49 PM #10:	The devil is humanity's failures given physical form. Lucifer was one of God's favorites. But he grew jealous of the humans. The angels were so perfect and yet God loved humans more. Even with all of the flaws and failures. That jealousy turned to resentment and then finally to hatred. --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:931333572] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>The devil is humanity's failures given physical form. Lucifer was one of God's favorites. But he grew jealous of the humans. The angels were so perfect and yet God loved humans more. Even with all of the flaws and failures. That jealousy turned to resentment and then finally to hatred. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JonTaylorThomas 12/09/19 3:59:56 PM #11:	mattnd2007 posted... The devil is humanity's failures given physical form. Lucifer was one of God's favorites. But he grew jealous of the humans. The angels were so perfect and yet God loved humans more. Even with all of the flaws and failures. That jealousy turned to resentment and then finally to hatred. And since God is infinite he would have forseen this, so he'd either be okay with it or he messed up. God can't mess up, so there's a chance the devil isn't real. --- https://imgur.com/a/DbdLrIG.jpg <cite>JonTaylorThomas posted [p:931333610] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted...</cite> <quote>The devil is humanity's failures given physical form. Lucifer was one of God's favorites. But he grew jealous of the humans. The angels were so perfect and yet God loved humans more. Even with all of the flaws and failures. That jealousy turned to resentment and then finally to hatred. </quote> And since God is infinite he would have forseen this, so he'd either be okay with it or he messed up. God can't mess up, so there's a chance the devil isn't real.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 12/09/19 4:03:20 PM #12:	God is all knowing The creation of Satan was entirely intentional One of the old names for him was adversary God knew there had to be a symbol of evil personified so that humans knew what not to do. Because humans are infinitely stupid and flawed compared to God. So he's like "hello my stupid children, I'm going to make this easy for you. Don't be like the bad guy I have created for you to understand" --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:931333739] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>God is all knowing The creation of Satan was entirely intentional One of the old names for him was adversary God knew there had to be a symbol of evil personified so that humans knew what not to do. Because humans are infinitely stupid and flawed compared to God. So he's like "hello my stupid children, I'm going to make this easy for you. Don't be like the bad guy I have created for you to understand" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ultima Dragon 12/09/19 4:06:14 PM #13:	That's one of those conundrums. Like, if God wishes to destroy the devil but cannot, then he's not omnipotent. If God can destroy the devil but chooses not to, then he's not benevolent. I also take issue with the whole "free will" thing with God's omniscience. What is the sense in putting us here and giving us free will when it's a foregone conclusion that we will fuck up horribly and deserve punishment? It's like leaving food on the kitchen table while you go in the other room to grab something. "Oh boy, I sure hope my dog companion doesn't jump up here and eat this delicious meal I just prepared! That would be so tragic and I'd have to punish him!" You do this knowing damn well that he will 100% eat the food because it's what is in his nature to do, and then you come back and beat him despite knowing full well that you were setting him up to fail. That seems twisted to me, lol. --- "We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz <cite>Ultima Dragon posted [p:931333848] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>That's one of those conundrums. Like, if God wishes to destroy the devil but cannot, then he's not omnipotent. If God can destroy the devil but chooses not to, then he's not benevolent. I also take issue with the whole "free will" thing with God's omniscience. What is the sense in putting us here and giving us free will when it's a foregone conclusion that we will fuck up horribly and deserve punishment? It's like leaving food on the kitchen table while you go in the other room to grab something. "Oh boy, I sure hope my dog companion doesn't jump up here and eat this delicious meal I just prepared! That would be so tragic and I'd have to punish him!" You do this knowing damn well that he will 100% eat the food because it's what is in his nature to do, and then you come back and beat him despite knowing full well that you were setting him up to fail. That seems twisted to me, lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 12/09/19 4:09:00 PM #14:	You're actually more right than you probably even realize dude When your pastor or whatever used to say "God is mysterious" this is what he was talking about Like God doesn't make sense to us because we aren't even close to being intelligent enough to understand. Think about whoever you consider the smartest man in history. He's still a moron compared to God. --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:931333950] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>You're actually more right than you probably even realize dude When your pastor or whatever used to say "God is mysterious" this is what he was talking about Like God doesn't make sense to us because we aren't even close to being intelligent enough to understand. Think about whoever you consider the smartest man in history. He's still a moron compared to God. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 12/09/19 4:10:06 PM #15:	If you're starting from the axiom that god is an omnipotent and omniscient being, they you're going to have to accept a lot of idiosyncrosies from him to square his odd behaviors with that fact. I also think you cannot have both an "all-powerful" God and an "infinitely good" God. For God to create Evil would mean, by definition, he is not all-good--For God to subject evil, willingly, upon man would make him the source of all evil. For God to be incapable of creating a perfect world of Good without Evil would mean he is not all-powerful. For Him to be unable to create Free Willed creatures without allowing them to sin is merely a limitation we imagine him to have, but not one an infinitely powerful being should actually be beholden to. --- I presume my time here in my darkblack dragondark steel-obliterating solitude has come to its end as well. http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:931334000] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>If you're starting from the axiom that god is an omnipotent and omniscient being, they you're going to have to accept a lot of idiosyncrosies from him to square his odd behaviors with that fact. I also think you cannot have both an "all-powerful" God and an "infinitely good" God. For God to create Evil would mean, by definition, he is not all-good--For God to subject evil, willingly, upon man would make him the source of all evil. For God to be incapable of creating a perfect world of Good without Evil would mean he is not all-powerful. For Him to be unable to create Free Willed creatures without allowing them to sin is merely a limitation we imagine him to have, but not one an infinitely powerful being should actually be beholden to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 12/09/19 4:14:36 PM #16:	mattnd2007 posted... You're actually more right than you probably even realize dude When your pastor or whatever used to say "God is mysterious" this is what he was talking about Like God doesn't make sense to us because we aren't even close to being intelligent enough to understand. Think about whoever you consider the smartest man in history. He's still a moron compared to God. How do you know this to be true? I believe I am more intelligent than the Bible's depiction of God. Has God done anything especially intelligent to prove this fact to you? --- I presume my time here in my darkblack dragondark steel-obliterating solitude has come to its end as well. http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:931334204] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted... </cite> <quote>You're actually more right than you probably even realize dude When your pastor or whatever used to say "God is mysterious" this is what he was talking about Like God doesn't make sense to us because we aren't even close to being intelligent enough to understand. Think about whoever you consider the smartest man in history. He's still a moron compared to God.</quote>How do you know this to be true? I believe I am more intelligent than the Bible's depiction of God. Has God done anything especially intelligent to prove this fact to you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 12/09/19 4:22:44 PM #17:	Pogo_Marimo posted... How do you know this to be true? I believe I am more intelligent than the Bible's depiction of God. Has God done anything especially intelligent to prove this fact to you? If anything he's just proven himself to be more powerful than humans. Wisdom... hasn't been observed. Both the Flood and Jesus' full existence were 100% preventable occurrences. It's almost like there's some trial and error going on! --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:931334547] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote>How do you know this to be true? I believe I am more intelligent than the Bible's depiction of God. Has God done anything especially intelligent to prove this fact to you?</quote> If anything he's just proven himself to be more powerful than humans. Wisdom... hasn't been observed. Both the Flood and Jesus' full existence were 100% preventable occurrences. It's almost like there's some trial and error going on!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 12/09/19 4:31:56 PM #18:	My last thought on it is, why would you want the God of the Bible to be real? His exploits, especially prior to the New Testament, read more like an arbitrary tyrant enforcing a strict, poorly communicated moral code upon a beleaugered and confused population. Then, to nail home how manipulative he is, he twists his acts of cruelty into being acts of love. Like a serial abuser, he convinces humanity it's THEIR fault he had to genocide the entire population of Earth aside from Noah and his family. Never mind how absent God had been in directing, teaching, and helping the people of Earth. This repeats itself over and over and over again. Job, Sodom, Gomorrah, Egypt, ect. ect. ect. Why would you want to believe in a God like that? Someone who can embody such evil and show so little remorse? --- I presume my time here in my darkblack dragondark steel-obliterating solitude has come to its end as well. http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:931334958] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>My last thought on it is, why would you want the God of the Bible to be real? His exploits, especially prior to the New Testament, read more like an arbitrary tyrant enforcing a strict, poorly communicated moral code upon a beleaugered and confused population. Then, to nail home how manipulative he is, he twists his acts of cruelty into being acts of love. Like a serial abuser, he convinces humanity it's THEIR fault he had to genocide the entire population of Earth aside from Noah and his family. Never mind how absent God had been in directing, teaching, and helping the people of Earth. This repeats itself over and over and over again. Job, Sodom, Gomorrah, Egypt, ect. ect. ect. Why would you want to believe in a God like that? Someone who can embody such evil and show so little remorse? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsChum 12/09/19 4:55:43 PM #19:	Ultima Dragon posted... If God can destroy the devil but chooses not to, then he's not benevolent. He can, and he does. Just not yet. The book of Revelation quite clearly depicts Jesus ultimately slaying Satan at least once. The book of Habakkuk goes into detail of why he doesn't just yet. He uses one evil to punish others in a cycle that is eventually broken when Satan ultimately purges all the wicked except himself, and Jesus, being the ultimate Good, rids the world of evil forever with a single precision blow. --- This is the account I use when I want to make more than ten topics on CE in one day. <cite>DevsChum posted [p:931335961] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>Ultima Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>If God can destroy the devil but chooses not to, then he's not benevolent.</quote>He can, and he does. Just not yet. The book of Revelation quite clearly depicts Jesus ultimately slaying Satan at least once. The book of Habakkuk goes into detail of why he doesn't just yet. He uses one evil to punish others in a cycle that is eventually broken when Satan ultimately purges all the wicked except himself, and Jesus, being the ultimate Good, rids the world of evil forever with a single precision blow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrNintendo1213 12/09/19 5:06:50 PM #20:	The way Satan means adversary, makes a lot of people believe that is literally what he meant. Just some adversary each time. Not one person throughout a bunch of different situations named adversary. From what I've heard of it the bible really doesnt say shit about the devil almost at all. --- Dot Dot Dot... <cite>MrNintendo1213 posted [p:931336483] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>The way Satan means adversary, makes a lot of people believe that is literally what he meant. Just some adversary each time. Not one person throughout a bunch of different situations named adversary. From what I've heard of it the bible really doesnt say shit about the devil almost at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsChum 12/09/19 5:49:28 PM #21:	MrNintendo1213 posted... From what I've heard of it the bible really doesnt say s* about the devil almost at all. He definitely appears in person at least twice off the top of my head--in the book of Job and in the gospels--plus, Revelation names him specifically as the meaning behind the dragon, which in turn ties him to the serpent in the Garden of Eden. IIRC Jude also refers to him, but Jude is a weird book I can't figure out what to make of. But to your point, there aren't a lot of specific mentions of the guy. --- This is the account I use when I want to make more than ten topics on CE in one day. <cite>DevsChum posted [p:931338479] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>MrNintendo1213 posted... </cite> <quote>From what I've heard of it the bible really doesnt say s* about the devil almost at all.</quote>He definitely appears in person at least twice off the top of my head--in the book of Job and in the gospels--plus, Revelation names him specifically as the meaning behind the dragon, which in turn ties him to the serpent in the Garden of Eden. IIRC Jude also refers to him, but Jude is a weird book I can't figure out what to make of. But to your point, there aren't a lot of specific mentions of the guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 12/09/19 6:26:40 PM #22:	Pogo_Marimo posted... How do you know this to be true? I believe I am more intelligent than the Bible's depiction of God. Has God done anything especially intelligent to prove this fact to you? Well why don't you go ahead and make your own universe then? I'll wait. --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:931340073] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted... </cite> <quote>How do you know this to be true? I believe I am more intelligent than the Bible's depiction of God. Has God done anything especially intelligent to prove this fact to you?</quote>Well why don't you go ahead and make your own universe then? I'll wait. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 12/09/19 6:27:28 PM #23:	Like I'm a man of science as well. Hell there is a decent chance I'm smarter than you. Although not for certain. --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:931340122] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>Like I'm a man of science as well. Hell there is a decent chance I'm smarter than you. Although not for certain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evil_zombie11 12/09/19 6:30:14 PM #24:	You can't gauge goodness proper unless you compare it to evil so maybe god created the devil intentionally so humans can compare and go to god. --- Yo wtf Probably lifting or running... <cite>evil_zombie11 posted [p:931340247] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>You can't gauge goodness proper unless you compare it to evil so maybe god created the devil intentionally so humans can compare and go to god. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 12/09/19 6:31:28 PM #25:	evil_zombie11 posted... You can't gauge goodness proper unless you compare it to evil so maybe god created the devil intentionally so humans can compare and go to god. ^^^^^^ You nailed it --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:931340292] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>evil_zombie11 posted... </cite> <quote>You can't gauge goodness proper unless you compare it to evil so maybe god created the devil intentionally so humans can compare and go to god.</quote>^^^^^^ You nailed it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 12/09/19 9:23:50 PM #26:	mattnd2007 posted... Well why don't you go ahead and make your own universe then? I'll wait. That only proves power, not wisdom nor planning nor thoughtfulness. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:931348091] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted...</cite> <quote> Well why don't you go ahead and make your own universe then? I'll wait. </quote> That only proves power, not wisdom nor planning nor thoughtfulness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvenSpoonier 12/09/19 9:49:22 PM #27:	What God created was an angel. Becoming Satan was that angel's own work. --- "Playing a game for its graphics is like watching pornography for the story." - Kadiroth <cite>EvenSpoonier posted [p:931349415] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>What God created was an angel. Becoming Satan was that angel's own work. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 12/09/19 9:52:25 PM #28:	MrNintendo1213 posted... The way Satan means adversary, makes a lot of people believe that is literally what he meant. Just some adversary each time. Not one person throughout a bunch of different situations named adversary. From what I've heard of it the bible really doesnt say shit about the devil almost at all. he's everywhere in the new testament. jesus especially pushed his existence, so you can basically pin jesus down as a superstitious cave dweller. --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:931349577] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>MrNintendo1213 posted... </cite> <quote>The way Satan means adversary, makes a lot of people believe that is literally what he meant. Just some adversary each time. Not one person throughout a bunch of different situations named adversary. From what I've heard of it the bible really doesnt say shit about the devil almost at all.</quote>he's everywhere in the new testament. jesus especially pushed his existence, so you can basically pin jesus down as a superstitious cave dweller. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 12/09/19 9:53:04 PM #29:	Sounds like you have a big personal problem, then. --- You go, Glenn CoCo. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:931349609] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like you have a big personal problem, then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 12/09/19 9:55:16 PM #30:	yeah worshipping a human being like jesus is a good sign of mental health, so is believing you should hate your family like jesus said to do. jesus was a nut --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:931349736] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>yeah worshipping a human being like jesus is a good sign of mental health, so is believing you should hate your family like jesus said to do. jesus was a nut </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ffmasterjose 12/09/19 9:57:25 PM #31:	You shouldn't. He believes in you <cite>ffmasterjose posted [p:931349852] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't. He believes in you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 12/10/19 10:09:32 AM #32:	evil_zombie11 posted... You can't gauge goodness proper unless you compare it to evil so maybe god created the devil intentionally so humans can compare and go to god. This is a narrow-minded view where one only considers the dichotomy present in our current reality. God, if omnipotent, could create any reality. He could create a reality where Evil is not necessary for Good to exist. If he were a being of infinite goodness, that would be a much better use of his infinite power. Hell, he could create a reality, incomprehensible to us, where Good and Evil do not exist as a dichotomy, but as two parts of an elaborate 19-part paradigm of values that can't even exist in our minds. He chose to create evil despite evil being unnecessary. He subjected humanity to evil despite supposedly loving all of us. Then he punishes humanity when it falls to the whims of evil, and not in a way to achieve rehabilitation! Oh no, instead of rehabilitating sinners, he subjects them to an eternity of suffering, because that is what a being of infinite good would do. --- I presume my time here in my darkblack dragondark steel-obliterating solitude has come to its end as well. http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:931368800] in As someone... [t:78240338]...</cite> <quote>evil_zombie11 posted... </cite> <quote>You can't gauge goodness proper unless you compare it to evil so maybe god created the devil intentionally so humans can compare and go to god.</quote> This is a narrow-minded view where one only considers the dichotomy present in our current reality. God, if omnipotent, could create any reality. He could create a reality where Evil is not necessary for Good to exist. If he were a being of infinite goodness, that would be a much better use of his infinite power. Hell, he could create a reality, incomprehensible to us, where Good and Evil do not exist as a dichotomy, but as two parts of an elaborate 19-part paradigm of values that can't even exist in our minds. He chose to create evil despite evil being unnecessary. He subjected humanity to evil despite supposedly loving all of us. Then he punishes humanity when it falls to the whims of evil, and not in a way to achieve rehabilitation! Oh no, instead of rehabilitating sinners, he subjects them to an eternity of suffering, because that is what a being of infinite good would do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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