Current Events > French parliament passes resolution calling anti-Zionism a form of anti-Semitism

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https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Antisemitism/French-parliament-decides-anti-Zionism-is-antisemitism-609764

Anti-Zionism is a form of antisemitism, Frances National Assembly determined on Tuesday, voting on a resolution calling on the government to adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliances definition of antisemitism.

The motion proposed by lawmaker Sylvain Maillard of LREM, President Emmanuel Macrons centrist party passed 154-72 in the parliaments lower house.

For some years now, France, the whole of Europe, but also almost all Western democracies are facing a rise in antisemitism, the resolution states. Anti-Zionist acts can at times hide antisemitic realities. Hate toward Israel due to its perception as a Jewish collective is akin to hatred toward the entire Jewish community.

In France today, dirty Zionist means dirty Jew, Maillard told La Croix.

The IHRA definition says some forms of hatred against Israel are antisemitic, such as comparing Israel to Nazi Germany, claiming Israels existence is a racist endeavor, and using classic antisemitic claims and symbols to characterize Israel and Israelis.

Maillards resolution was highly controversial and debated in the French media in recent weeks. A letter from 39 organizations penned in October said that antisemitism should not be defined separately from other forms of racism, and that the motion stifles freedom of expression for supporters of Palestinians and critics of Israel.

Meyer Habib, a lawmaker from the Union of Democrats Party representing French expats in several countries, including Israel, spoke in support of the resolution in the National Assembly on Tuesday.

The French policy to fight antisemitism is a failure, Habib said. There is an outbreak of antisemitic assaults. Twelve French citizens were murdered since 2003 because they were Jewish. Half of the racist incidents in France are against Jews, even though [Jews] are less than 1% of the population.
Israel is the Jewish peoples only assurance of safety, he added.

Anti-Zionists are not just critics of Israel, Habib explained, they are obsessed. They use anti-racist and anti-colonialist rhetoric to try to erase Jewish identity.

The new antisemitism is flourishing on the background of hatred of Israel, Islamism and conspiracy theories, said Habib. I am concerned for Jews but I am mainly worried about France Do I need to remind you of the slogans of the yellow vest [protesters]? Macron equals Rothschild equals Zion, Macron is a whore of the Jews. Wake up!

Earlier this year, Macron called anti-Zionism one of the current forms of antisemitism, following an attack on French Jewish philosopher Alain Finkelkraut by participants in the yellow vest anti-government protests. The demonstrators called him a dirty Zionist and told him to go back to Tel Aviv.

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I don't know what Zionism is

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Irony posted...

I don't know what Zionism is

basically, supporting the state of israel

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yikes

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Not great
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TheMikh posted...

basically, supporting the state of israel

It's more like supporting a Jewish state, it's not necessarily supporting the Israeli government.
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But wearing a hijab is a crime

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Good, there's not much difference between the two

Damn_Underscore posted...

In France today, dirty Zionist means dirty Jew, Maillard told La Croix.

Stuff like this is absolutely veiled antisemitism, and that shouldn't even be a controversial statement.

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I guess they see through the dog whistle.

I will never understand the west's facination with bending over backwards to claim any criticism whatsoever of Israel is racial or religious attacks against Jewish people.

It's bonkers.

No one claims criticism against America or the UK is anti-Christian or anti-white racism.
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s0nicfan posted...

Stuff like this is absolutely veiled antisemitism, and that shouldn't even be a controversial statement.

"Dirty Zionist" certainly is, but these types of laws seem to only get used to go after legitimate criticisms of the Israeli government.

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Damn_Underscore posted...

It's more like supporting a Jewish state, it's not necessarily supporting the Israeli government.

Back in the 1800s, yes, but now there actually is a Jewish state.

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Anteaterking posted...

"Dirty Zionist" certainly is, but these types of laws seem to only get used to go after legitimate criticisms of the Israeli government.

The motion states:

Anti-Zionist acts can at times hide antisemitic realities. Hate toward Israel due to its perception as a Jewish collective is akin to hatred toward the entire Jewish community.

So I don't think your concern will come to fruition given the language used.

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Garioshi posted...

Back in the 1800s, yes, but now there actually is a Jewish state.

Is loving America the same thing as loving the American government?

Same thing. The fact that Israel always has 10+ parties in their 120 seat parliament is evidence of that.
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As a Jewish person I disagree with that.

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@MarshawnLynch
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TheMikh posted...

basically, supporting the state of israel

Its more than that
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French politicians got that sweet bribe money. Israel loves playing the anti-semite card to stifle criticism.

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When will anti Israel posts start to be moddable
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JonTaylorThomas posted...

When will anti Israel posts start to be moddable

Theyre arent any
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UnfairRepresent posted...

No one claims criticism against America or the UK is anti-Christian or anti-white racism.

Lmao the majority of Conservatives in the US imply that on a daily basis.

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But criticism of Muslims, Islam, drawing dirty pictures of their Prophet is all freedom of speech.

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Southernfatman posted...

French politicians got that sweet bribe money. Israel loves playing the anti-semite card to stifle criticism.

Yeah, that's pretty antisemitic...

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Nothing unites the left and the right like hatred of Jews
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Feetish posted...

But criticism of Muslims, Islam, drawing dirty pictures of their Prophet is all freedom of speech.

If people on this board were as busy criticizing China for the Uighur genocide as they did Israel for existing, than maybe you would have a point... As it stands, the repeated, constant, singling out of Israel while staying silent on regimes that are actively wiping out minorities reeks of antisemitism

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So it's saying that thinly veiled antisemitism being presented as anti zionism is antisemitism.

Fair. The resolution doesn't say all criticism of Israel is antisemitism like you people are pretending.

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One of the countries with the worst record as colonialists complains about anti-colonialist rhetoric, imagine my surprise.

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Magyar15 posted...

If people on this board were as busy criticizing China for the Uighur genocide as they did Israel for existing, than maybe you would have a point... As it stands, the repeated, constant, singling out of Israel while staying silent on regimes that are actively wiping out minorities reeks of antisemitism

Calm down. Israel is not the only country that gets criticised. Saudi Arabia, Iran, N Korea, China, Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, etc get called out all the time.

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Feetish posted...

Calm down. Israel is not the only country that gets criticised. Saudi Arabia, Iran, N Korea, China, Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, etc get called out all the time.

Not to anywhere near the same extent. Not to mention, look at the UN resolutions. Look at the number of resolutions against Saudi Arabia, Iran, N Korea, China, Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, etc., and compare that to the number of resolutions against Israel. The result may surprise you


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Magyar15 posted...

If people on this board were as busy criticizing China for the Uighur genocide as they did Israel for existing, than maybe you would have a point... As it stands, the repeated, constant, singling out of Israel while staying silent on regimes that are actively wiping out minorities reeks of antisemitism

Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Feetish posted...

Calm down. Israel is not the only country that gets criticised. Saudi Arabia, Iran, N Korea, China, Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, etc get called out all the time.

And if people start saying "dirty saudi" to insult any arbitrary Muslim and saying it isn't hate speech because "oh, I'm criticizing the government" then you'll have a point. Because that's what this resolution was about since they already have regular hate speech laws.

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Magyar15 posted...

Not to anywhere near the same extent. Not to mention, look at the UN resolutions. Look at the number of resolutions against Saudi Arabia, Iran, N Korea, China, Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, etc., and compare that to the number of resolutions against Israel. The result may surprise you

But the resolutions against Israel are never upheld.

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Feetish posted...

But the resolutions against Israel are never upheld.

Because of good ol' murica, fuck yeah!
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Feetish posted...

But the resolutions against Israel are never upheld.

There's, literally, a dedicated line item at the UN HRC to discuss Israel at every session. Only Israel.

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s0nicfan posted...

There's, literally, a dedicated line item at the UN HRC to discuss Israel at every session. Only Israel.

And which resolutions have been upheld?

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s0nicfan posted...

And if people start saying "dirty saudi" to insult any arbitrary Muslim and saying it isn't hate speech because "oh, I'm criticizing the government" then you'll have a point. Because that's what this resolution was about since they already have regular hate speech laws.

I mean, people routinely call Islam a death cult, claim their prophet is a pedophile, and claim that any person who is Muslim is incompatible of living in the West. So wouldn't a more apt comparison if people made those proclamations about Judaism as a religion? (Note: Some do, but those types are mostly relegated to the fringes, or were before the last few years).

Magyar15 posted...

Not to anywhere near the same extent. Not to mention, look at the UN resolutions. Look at the number of resolutions against Saudi Arabia, Iran, N Korea, China, Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, etc., and compare that to the number of resolutions against Israel. The result may surprise you

How many of those have happened in say, the last 20 years?

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Feetish posted...

And which resolutions have been upheld?

45 have been upheld.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

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Magyar15 posted...

If people on this board were as busy criticizing China for the Uighur genocide as they did Israel for existing, than maybe you would have a point... As it stands, the repeated, constant, singling out of Israel while staying silent on regimes that are actively wiping out minorities reeks of antisemitism

Who the fuck are you talking about exactly? CE's righties love to call people anti-Semites for criticizing Israel. CE's lefties, outside of some tankies, definitely call out China. And almost everyone that isn't a Trump troll will lay in to Saudi Arabia, Russia, North Korea, etc

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s0nicfan posted...

45 have been upheld.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

It gets better
" The 45 resolutions comprised almost half (45.9%) of all country-specific resolutions passed by the Council, not counting those under Agenda Item 10 (countries requiring technical assistance)"


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shockthemonkey posted...

Lots of people arguing for why we should be more critical of other places without arguing in favor of this

Do you take issue with the actual language of the resolution?

For some years now, France, the whole of Europe, but also almost all Western democracies are facing a rise in antisemitism, the resolution states. Anti-Zionist acts can at times hide antisemitic realities. Hate toward Israel due to its perception as a Jewish collective is akin to hatred toward the entire Jewish community.

What specifically do you take issue with in the actual resolution?


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shockthemonkey posted...

Lots of people arguing for why we should be more critical of other places without arguing in favor of this

Agreed. I just will never understand why these arguments have to be an "all or nothing" proposition. People should be able to criticize governments from all over the world any time they want, and really, they can do so for whatever reason they want. That doesn't make all forms of criticism valid, but simply "How can you be critical of X when Y exists!?" is a fucking asinine mentality.

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hockeybub89 posted...

rities reeks of antisemitism
Who the f*** are you talking about exactly? CE's righties love to call people anti-Semites for criticizing Israel. CE's lefties, outside of some tankies, definitely call out China. And almost everyone that isn't a Trump troll will lay in on Saudi Arabia, Russia, North Korea, etc

Not to the same extent. At all. And globally, you see the same singling out. The problem is, is that so many people take a reasonable statement "It's ok to criticize Israel," which I happen to agree with, and run with it, using it to lead to unsavory conspiracy theories. You don't see this with other countries. There's literally a post in this topic saying that France is doing this for bribe money

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s0nicfan posted...

What specifically do you take issue with in the actual resolution?

I take issue with any nation that pushes hardcore nationalism and pushing ethnostate mentalities. Don't really give a shit what the cause itself is, that mentality is harmful to the planet and goes against everything I believe we should strive to be as a species.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Conflating all anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism is redefining words in a dangerous way

Where does the resolution do that? It's like two sentences long so it shouldn't be hard for you to point out.

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Magyar15 posted...

Not to the same extent. At all. And globally, you see the same singling out. The problem is, is that so many people take a reasonable statement "It's ok to criticize Israel," which I happen to agree with, and run with it, using it to lead to unsavory conspiracy theories. You don't see this with other countries. There's literally a post in this topic saying that France is doing this for bribe money

You don't see people making claims about foreign financial influence from nations?

The fuck rock you been living under?

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