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robert21 12/04/19 10:24:52 PM #1: |
Was Vince right?
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Wedge Antilles 12/04/19 10:25:49 PM #2: |
Vince screwed Bret
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DirkDiggles 12/04/19 10:28:59 PM #3: |
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J03can 12/04/19 10:39:04 PM #4: |
Bret should have done the job, Vince was thinking irrationally, and Shawn was just listening to the boss
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jumi 12/04/19 10:45:46 PM #5: |
J03can posted...
Bret should have done the job, Vince was thinking irrationally, and Shawn was just listening to the boss --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnny_Nutcase 12/04/19 10:46:12 PM #6: |
Well here's the logical way to think of this one.
Bret got told some bad info. Vince willingly walked into the locker room and got clobbered I would say Vince knew he was a dick and ate one for it. ORRRR The whole thing was a big scandal and all above happened but Bret and Vince shared a limo to the hotel where they had oral sex and watched Kindergarten Cop on PPV for 3.13$ --- I got a freakin muscle spasm in my back the gear slipped the air brakes were shot to hell. I mean there was nothing I could do, boom right into the post office ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 12/04/19 10:47:24 PM #7: |
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Well here's the logical way to think of this one. I mean i feel like it was both. The sexual tension of the former caused the latter. --- "I got a rolla truc, look" ~ sleaford mods https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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robert21 12/04/19 11:00:55 PM #8: |
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Well here's the logical way to think of this one.kinky --- http://i.imgur.com/WUlNykO.png- I need about tree fiddy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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El Mexicano Texano 12/04/19 11:04:30 PM #9: |
If your boss tells you to go do your job and you don't listen and he decides to act against you. Who's fault is it?
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Kajagogo 12/04/19 11:51:49 PM #11: |
Bret screwed Bret Agreed. --- By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingArthur3D 12/05/19 12:10:56 AM #12: |
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Vol2tex 12/05/19 12:14:53 AM #13: |
El Mexicano Texano posted...
If your boss tells you to go do your job and you don't listen and he decides to act against you. Who's fault is it? Except Bret had fulfilled his contract and actually didn't even have to show up for the match, not to mention that he had reasonable creative control in his contract. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jumi 12/05/19 1:38:47 AM #14: |
"reasonable creative control" =/= "I don't wanna drop the title."
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Bad_Mojo 12/05/19 1:39:46 AM #15: |
Yes
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jumi 12/05/19 1:42:20 AM #16: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
Yes From what I understand, Sunny was like village bicycle: everybody got a ride. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 12/05/19 1:54:11 AM #17: |
jumi posted...
From what I understand, Sunny was like village bicycle: everybody got a ride. Not Bret, because he's a loser --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HBOSS 12/05/19 2:07:14 AM #18: |
best ever
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Vol2tex 12/05/19 9:42:31 AM #19: |
jumi posted...
"reasonable creative control" =/= "I don't wanna drop the title." He didn't want to drop it to Shawn and especially not in Montreal, but he would have been glad to forfeit it on Raw the next night or drop it at a house show. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExtremeLuchador 12/05/19 9:44:54 AM #20: |
Hulk Hogan had creative control and refused to lose many times. Bret Hart was also working extra dates for free in 1997.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk 12/05/19 9:46:53 AM #21: |
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Southernfatman 12/05/19 9:53:31 AM #23: |
Jim Cornette screwed Bret by reading a book about the early days of pro wrestling and its shadyness and gave Vince the idea of screwing him.
Nerdy-ness and a book screwed Bret. And fuck Shawn Michaels. If he wasn't such a prima-donna and if Vince didn't have such of a man crush on him and let him get away with a ton of bullshit, maybe Bret would have been more willing to lose to him. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vol2tex 12/05/19 12:22:00 PM #24: |
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KillerSlaw 12/05/19 12:25:50 PM #25: |
Americans lose the title in the United States of America all the time, but Brett refused to drop a belt in his own country?
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Kajagogo 12/05/19 2:12:54 PM #26: |
ExtremeLuchador posted...
Hulk Hogan had creative control and refused to lose many times. Shawn Michaels made a mockery of that too. --- By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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J03can 12/05/19 2:17:54 PM #27: |
Southernfatman posted...
Jim Cornette screwed Bret by reading a book about the early days of pro wrestling and its shadyness and gave Vince the idea of screwing him.Who still remembers Pampiro Firpo --- Jerry, it's Frank Costanza!!! Mr Steinbrenner's here George is dead - call me back!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 12/05/19 2:42:15 PM #28: |
J03can posted...
Who still remembers Pampiro Firpo Everybody knows it's Corny! --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wedge Antilles 12/05/19 3:00:56 PM #29: |
El Mexicano Texano posted...
If your boss tells you to go do your job and you don't listen and he decides to act against you. Who's fault is it? He had creative control in his contract and offered to drop it to nearly anyone else. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jumi 12/05/19 7:38:51 PM #30: |
Wedge Antilles posted...
He had creative control in his contract and offered to drop it to nearly anyone else. He wasn't in an angle with anyone else. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vol2tex 12/05/19 7:40:34 PM #31: |
jumi posted...
He wasn't in an angle with anyone else. Remember when he dropped it to Yokozuna, who then dropped it to Hogan seconds later? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 12/05/19 7:45:11 PM #32: |
Bret said he'd drop the title in a New York event right after Survivor Series. I don't know why Vince got it in his head Bret was going to double-cross him and take the belt to WCW. It's not like Vince "had it coming" for a previous transgression or whatever.
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Vol2tex 12/05/19 7:47:28 PM #34: |
I can see Vince's side too, he felt that all Bishoff had to do was announce on Nitro the next night that they signed the WWF champion and that would severely harm WWF.
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Solid Sonic 12/05/19 7:50:16 PM #35: |
Crono99 posted...
Didn't Vince get burned just before that by the woman's champion who appeared at a WCW event with the WWF belt and threw it in the garbage live? He did but I think that was because of his own arrogance. As I recall he wasn't being very cooperative during contract negotiations. Bret had actually said to him that he'd do WWF right on the way out and he was already given Vince's blessing to reopen talks with WCW after Vince couldn't honor the big money deal he signed him to the previous year. At least to me it seemed like they were being honest with each other and not trying to dupe the other party so how things deteriorated after that is somewhat of a mystery to me. I did hear something about Shawn giving Bret shit about how Bret agreed to drop the title (something like "Cool, but I would never do you the favor.") and Bret may have had it out for Shawn but I've only heard that once and I don't know what the original source was. --- "It feels like I'm always wrong." "Nah, that's not true...I mean you just made that statement, didn't you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cmiller4642 12/05/19 7:51:20 PM #36: |
Bret was equally as difficult to work with as HBK.
Nash said he refused to do a spot in their cage match where he hit Bret with a jackknife at the end right before The Undertaker pulled him through the ring. Nash was cool with losing but wanted to get heat for the Wrestlemania match between him and The Undertaker by making it look like Taker cost him the title. Bret thought it would make him look weak. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WrestlinFan 12/05/19 7:55:53 PM #38: |
jumi posted...
He wasn't in an angle with anyone else.I still think they should've had Ken Shamrock score a shock win. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 12/05/19 7:56:10 PM #39: |
It technically started in the aftermath. The "Mr. McMahon" character was Vince steering into the bad publicity he got off the back of the Montreal Screwjob.
This nonsensical pretape that basically admits "I run everything around here and I can make the content more edgy and mature anytime I want becuase 'lol kayfabe iz ded'," is the formal start, by all accounts (referred to as the "Shades of Gray" speech). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjBeCwz2fXg --- "It feels like I'm always wrong." "Nah, that's not true...I mean you just made that statement, didn't you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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