Current Events > There didn't need to be a Demon Tournament in Yu Yu Hakusho

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just feels like Togashi didn't know what to do after the dark tournament so he decided to recreate the arc

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Looks like he grew soft on the idea quick because he almost just as quickly aborted it to end the series.

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and people still hate the arc

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i like it just cause we see yusuke go demon form which was badass, the ending fights did seem rushed, and we never found out about that dudes super kid also

still 10/10 anime
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An interesting thread about the ending of Yu Yu Hakusho...

https://www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/2ga6as/togashis_long_written_piece_found_in_the_yyh/

It saddens me to say this, but I had explored every possible direction for the YYH characters that I could in the context of a professional publication. All I could do at this point was to start deconstructing the characters, or go on repeating the same storylines over and over until the readers got bored. My attempts to deconstruct the characters were, of course, turned down by Jump. I didn't have the strength, physically and mentally, to keep doing the same thing over and over.

So I went ahead and did what I had always wanted to do: "If I ever manage to have a long serialization in Jump, I will end it on my own terms." I knew that Jump dropped a manga after 10 weeks if the readers' surveys proved it to be unpopular, and I knew this when I started working for them. This system proved encouraging for me, and I learned a lot by being aware of readers reactions. But I ended up wanting to draw manga for myself, without thinking about anyone's reactions. I don't believe that anything I came up with on this premise will live up to Jump's standards, so I will not try.

In conclusion: I ended YYH because of my own selfishness. I'm sorry.

In short it seems like he just said fuck it and wanted to get it over with, hence a simple tournament instead of a war arc that was teased.
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smoke_break posted...

An interesting thread about the ending of Yu Yu Hakusho...

https://www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/2ga6as/togashis_long_written_piece_found_in_the_yyh/

It saddens me to say this, but I had explored every possible direction for the YYH characters that I could in the context of a professional publication. All I could do at this point was to start deconstructing the characters, or go on repeating the same storylines over and over until the readers got bored. My attempts to deconstruct the characters were, of course, turned down by Jump. I didn't have the strength, physically and mentally, to keep doing the same thing over and over.

So I went ahead and did what I had always wanted to do: "If I ever manage to have a long serialization in Jump, I will end it on my own terms." I knew that Jump dropped a manga after 10 weeks if the readers' surveys proved it to be unpopular, and I knew this when I started working for them. This system proved encouraging for me, and I learned a lot by being aware of readers reactions. But I ended up wanting to draw manga for myself, without thinking about anyone's reactions. I don't believe that anything I came up with on this premise will live up to Jump's standards, so I will not try.

In conclusion: I ended YYH because of my own selfishness. I'm sorry.

In short it seems like he just said fuck it and wanted to get it over with, hence a simple tournament instead of a war arc that was teased.

Yeah, and now Jump let's him do whatever the fuck he wants with HxH because of it. He gets to put out lazily drawn chapters 2 times a year and rake in the cash.
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I'm curious how he would have deconstructed those characters if he had the chance.
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Damn, we could have had a Chimera Ant style arc in YYH. On one hand it would have been a great story, in the other I don't want to see the YYH crew suffer like that.

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Tournaments in shonen are usually a "buying time" arc: lots of new characters without the need for a lot of story twists, motivations or progression.
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Goddamn, that's a true auteur.

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lightwarrior78 posted...

Tournaments in shonen are usually a "buying time" arc: lots of new characters without the need for a lot of story twists, motivations or progression.

However, the Dark Tournament is legitimately great and probably the best tournament arc of all time.

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BlueBoy675 posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

Tournaments in shonen are usually a "buying time" arc: lots of new characters without the need for a lot of story twists, motivations or progression.

However, the Dark Tournament is legitimately great and probably the best tournament arc of all time.

It's not a comment on the quality of any one in particular. Just if you see the tournament or the gauntlet, you are getting padding of one form or another.
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It wasn't going to be a demon tournament. It was going to be a political war and deconstructing the characters but JUMP and his editors were like "Nah son we need just fighting" and that is why YYH got a less than stellar and rushed ending. Togashi wasn't having it.

And that is why with his current work (HXH) he has them by the balls and gets to do whatever he wants. They don't want him to YYH them again.

BlueBoy675 posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

Tournaments in shonen are usually a "buying time" arc: lots of new characters without the need for a lot of story twists, motivations or progression.

However, the Dark Tournament is legitimately great and probably the best tournament arc of all time.

Nah. Flame of Recca has the best tournament arc ever. Dark Tournament is a close second.
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MKScorpion posted...

It wasn't going to be a demon tournament. It was going to be a political war and deconstructing the characters but JUMP and his editors were like "Nah son we need just fighting" and that is why YYH got a less than stellar and rushed ending. Togashi wasn't having it.

I suppose that's why we got a 3rd bloody tournament.
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lol

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