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TroutPaste
11/23/19 7:06:39 AM
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Ricemills
11/23/19 7:08:21 AM
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duh.

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ArchiePeck
11/23/19 7:08:25 AM
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I really don't care either way LOL
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UnfairRepresent
11/23/19 7:15:22 AM
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He said much much worse things years ago when he was a mod

I think the only difference is the now tamer Admiral was shittalking the mods rather than the users which is why they took action

Defending the disgusting things he routinely said that would get anyone else banned as "an echo chamber" is ludicrous

Its comical that he wasn't banned many years ago when he was claiming there is no evidence Hitler was anti-semitic and defending child abuse (you know the word I want to use here but it's not safe too ) , and also insinuated that he supports the genocide of Palestinians on multiple occasions, all while being a lead mod. Any other user on the site would be banned

Frankly the race/transgender bait shit he said lately was small fry

Its hugely insulting to conservatives to claim this is a normal part of their beliefs and opposition to them is just liberalism.

They are just downright horrible and inaccurate beliefs . The fact anyone would defend them even as a joke is fucking sickening .
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TroutPaste
11/23/19 7:17:39 AM
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Yeah I'm not disputing that he could have said heinous shit, I just don't know specifically what it is (since I never read the political/culture topics)
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Error1355
11/23/19 7:32:47 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Its comical that he wasn't banned many years ago when he was claiming there is no evidence Hitler was anti-semitic and defending child abuse (you know the word I want to use here but it's not safe too ) , and also insinuated that he supports the genocide of Palestinians on multiple occasions, all while being a lead mod.
Yeah, if that shit happened while he was on staff you'd have pretty much the entire mod staff telling the admins to fucking demod him. Please do not make up shit in order to try and make it sound like the mod staff somehow agreed with his offensive racist bullshit.

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TroutPaste
11/23/19 7:36:31 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Its hugely insulting to conservatives to claim this is a normal part of their beliefs and opposition to them is just liberalism.


Sadly this is becoming a problem in the modern west. My parents are conservative and were always smart about raising me and my siblings. Might yell at us for turning on CNN, have a few questionable opinions (in my mind)... but... I wasn't trying to say that. I never saw him as a conservative, just a contrarian/provocateur
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Alucard188
11/23/19 7:38:49 AM
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UR, quit making shit up. Admiral never showed any of this racist shit until after he was off the team. He was a very good LM. None of us saw any of this until after he left the staff.

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/23/19 7:39:20 AM
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so Ur can troll and mot be modded?
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TroutPaste
11/23/19 7:40:49 AM
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Alucard188
11/23/19 7:44:38 AM
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TroutPaste posted...
Why was he de-modded? Was he just getting started?


I can't even remember why he left the staff, but it wasn't related to any of his Conservative stream of consciousness that he ended up developing.

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CADE FOSTER
11/23/19 7:47:03 AM
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good riddance dude lost his damn mind
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UnfairRepresent
11/23/19 7:51:28 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
UR, quit making shit up. Admiral never showed any of this racist shit until after he was off the team. He was a very good LM. None of us saw any of this until after he left the staff.

I'm not making any of this up and anyone who was around at the time can corroborate it.

Why the gas lighting? Hes gone now

I'm not saying any mods agreed with his opinions, dont try to twist my words to make me say shit I never did , I'm saying he stated them and was never punished, meanwhile people who literally quoted him or screenshotted him were punished.

This is why Admiral was so disliked, because he was untouchable while he said horrible things
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ultimate reaver
11/23/19 7:53:42 AM
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Before Admiral really started actually getting warnings and suspensions, any thread involving black people being hurt, endangered, or accused of something were things he would troll. He would either

a. Blame the minority for whatever happened in the situation, or give the benefit of the doubt to any white people involved negatively in the story

or

b. In cases of it being beyond denial, he would begrudgingly acknowledge the black person was at no fault and then immediately segue into an off the cuff rant about black culture or liberals

both were entirely designed to get the entire thread arguing with him. I honestly dunno if he was legitimately racist or just pretended to be to whip up that drama but in my experience even if he wasnt, when you pretend to be something for years on end you often wind up making it a reality for yourself

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/23/19 7:55:12 AM
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I don't know why Im responding to someone who's still trolling,, the mods say not to and still won't puninsh him but whatever

a mod status won't change. He was warned multiple fucking times. Just because his status can't change from lead mod to warned as that would remove him as mod, doesn't mean he wasn't docked 10 karma constantly
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BeantownHero
11/23/19 7:57:33 AM
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Yeah...he was definitely on some questionable shit even when he was a moderator. To deny it seems kinda silly

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Error1355
11/23/19 7:57:37 AM
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You are spewing bullshit that 'we didn't care' about the shit Admiral was saying until he started bashing the mods sure makes it seem like you think we're complicit or welcoming of blatant racism.

Also claiming we allowed him to stay a mod while apparently spewing bullshit that he defended literal fucking genocide while on staff? Fucking really? You think that would fucking fly? Users got demodded for so much fucking less in terms of offensive posting, look at Baseman. You really think a mod on staff could openly defend genocide and not get demodded?

Fucking come the fuck on.

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UnfairRepresent
11/23/19 7:57:54 AM
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In fact just for the record and then I'll stop talking about this before I get suspended, I literally still have PMs from Lead Mod Admiral threatening me about screenshots of his posts and saying he would just declare then fake

.Which for the record, I never posted or took myself
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TroutPaste
11/23/19 7:58:50 AM
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>_>
In my defense I made this topic before the coffee kicked in
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Orchestrion
11/23/19 7:59:43 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Alucard188 posted...
UR, quit making shit up. Admiral never showed any of this racist shit until after he was off the team. He was a very good LM. None of us saw any of this until after he left the staff.

I'm not making any of this up and anyone who was around at the time can corroborate it.

Why the gas lighting? Hes gone now

I'm not saying any mods agreed with his opinions, dont try to twist my words to make me say shit I never did , I'm saying he stated them and was never punished, meanwhile people who literally quoted him or screenshotted him were punished.

This is why Admiral was so disliked, because he was untouchable while he said horrible things


I hate to agree with UR but its true. I remember him saying horrible things about Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown with absolute impunity.
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TroutPaste
11/23/19 8:00:32 AM
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Orchestrion posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Alucard188 posted...
UR, quit making shit up. Admiral never showed any of this racist shit until after he was off the team. He was a very good LM. None of us saw any of this until after he left the staff.

I'm not making any of this up and anyone who was around at the time can corroborate it.

Why the gas lighting? Hes gone now

I'm not saying any mods agreed with his opinions, dont try to twist my words to make me say shit I never did , I'm saying he stated them and was never punished, meanwhile people who literally quoted him or screenshotted him were punished.

This is why Admiral was so disliked, because he was untouchable while he said horrible things


I hate to agree with UR but its true. I remember him saying horrible things about Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown with absolute impunity.


That may be more along the lines of an existing conservative narrative. He was probably listening to Rush Limbaugh or something. Sounds like other things were worse (although that's pretty awful)
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Choco
11/23/19 8:01:40 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
UR, quit making shit up. Admiral never showed any of this racist shit until after he was off the team. He was a very good LM. None of us saw any of this until after he left the staff.

lol
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UnfairRepresent
11/23/19 8:03:08 AM
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Error1355 posted...
You are spewing bullshit that 'we didn't care' about the shit Admiral was saying until he started bashing the mods sure makes it seem like you think we're complicit or welcoming of blatant racism.


Speculation sure but can you blame me?

Also claiming we allowed him to stay a mod while apparently spewing bullshit that he defended literal fucking genocide while on staff? Fucking really? You think that would fucking fly? Users got demodded for so much fucking less in terms of offensive posting, look at Baseman. You really think a mod on staff could openly defend genocide and not get demodded?

Fucking come the fuck on.

Then you tell me. If Im lying, Why did everyone hate him?

anyway I dont want to upset you I'm glad hes gone and not having a go. dont think I'm accusing you of anything , I'm not
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Southernfatman
11/23/19 8:03:52 AM
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Error1355 posted...
You are spewing bullshit that 'we didn't care' about the shit Admiral was saying until he started bashing the mods sure makes it seem like you think we're complicit or welcoming of blatant racism.


It's because you are. Else wise you guys wouldnt have treated him with kid gloves for years. Same goes for all the other racist trolls here.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/23/19 8:04:09 AM
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>points out he'll be suspended
>continues to bait the mods

No really, what the fuck has UR done to earn immunity here? Someone tell me please.
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Orchestrion
11/23/19 8:04:29 AM
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TroutPaste posted...
Orchestrion posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Alucard188 posted...
UR, quit making shit up. Admiral never showed any of this racist shit until after he was off the team. He was a very good LM. None of us saw any of this until after he left the staff.

I'm not making any of this up and anyone who was around at the time can corroborate it.

Why the gas lighting? Hes gone now

I'm not saying any mods agreed with his opinions, dont try to twist my words to make me say shit I never did , I'm saying he stated them and was never punished, meanwhile people who literally quoted him or screenshotted him were punished.

This is why Admiral was so disliked, because he was untouchable while he said horrible things


I hate to agree with UR but its true. I remember him saying horrible things about Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown with absolute impunity.


That may be more along the lines of an existing conservative narrative. He was probably listening to Rush Limbaugh or something. Sounds like other things were worse (although that's pretty awful)


Nah, he was literally using racist slurs to describe people who were rioting in Ferguson Missouri after Mike Brown was murdered.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/23/19 8:05:16 AM
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He never was fucknig treated with kid gloves.
He was warned countless fucking times, his karma used to get hit by 10 at least once a fucking month. People used to making topics about the fucking thing

But sure listen to UR, the dude who's trolling several mods while aware that he's gonna get suspended
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Choco
11/23/19 8:06:19 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Also claiming we allowed him to stay a mod while apparently spewing bullshit that he defended literal fucking genocide while on staff? Fucking really? You think that would fucking fly? Users got demodded for so much fucking less in terms of offensive posting, look at Baseman.

even when the baseman thing happened, people were like "lol admiral says worse things every day"

so it's not like UR is just making this up now, people have thought that about admiral's shitposting for years
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QueenCarly
11/23/19 8:08:21 AM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
He never was fucknig treated with kid gloves.


anyone else doing the shit he did with a moderation history like his would have been banned a long time ago

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BeantownHero
11/23/19 8:09:26 AM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
He never was fucknig treated with kid gloves.
He was warned countless fucking times, his karma used to get hit by 10 at least once a fucking month. People used to making topics about the fucking thing

But sure listen to UR, the dude who's trolling several mods while aware that he's gonna get suspended


There are multiple longtime users (myself included) who can remember him being lowkey Breitbart back when he was a mod. Its very odd, this rewriting of history.


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TroutPaste
11/23/19 8:10:00 AM
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I'm probably going to close this topic later today, just so you don't think one of the mods closed it for their benefit. I think it can be open for now, while the posts are being made... but I think the original question of the topic has been fully answered and we don't need to fight over it
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PopOutAtYoParty
11/23/19 8:10:11 AM
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What gets a mod demodded anyway? Just curious on how strict the policy is. If Admiral was actually posting that type of shit, he'd definitely be demodded a long time ago, so I agree with Error.

Would telling a user to get a goddamn life multiple times, for example get you demodded? Calling a user a lamer or something? These are just examples.
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Choco
11/23/19 8:11:12 AM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
He never was fucknig treated with kid gloves.
He was warned countless fucking times, his karma used to get hit by 10 at least once a fucking month.

you're kinda proving yourself wrong, because all those warnings and karma losses should have been enough for a ban a while ago

that said it's not mod bias, it's just account age/karma bias. my first account got banned for way lesser shit than what i've posted with this one, just because that one was new and this one survived long enough to get old
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/23/19 8:11:58 AM
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Choco posted...

you're kinda proving yourself wrong, because all those warnings and karma losses should have been enough for a ban a while ago

Literally not how it works at all
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Alucard188
11/23/19 8:13:19 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not making any of this up and anyone who was around at the time can corroborate it.


I was most certainly around during that time. He never expressed any of this shit while he was still on the staff. Accusing us of gaslighting is bullshit, and you know it.

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PopOutAtYoParty
11/23/19 8:15:49 AM
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Yeah he would get demodded in an instant. I'm pretty sure that never happened. Agreed Alucard.

Hell if Admiral went around telling users to get a life, he'd get demodded too. That's how this works. Being a mod has a strict no toxicity policy.
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UnfairRepresent
11/23/19 8:16:08 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not making any of this up and anyone who was around at the time can corroborate it.


I was most certainly around during that time. He never expressed any of this shit while he was still on the staff. Accusing us of gaslighting is bullshit, and you know it.


Then every user is lying, every screenshot is fake and there is a conspiracy with no explanation of why Admiral was disliked

Fair enough.

I really dont want to argue about this . everyone is happy he is gone. I'll leave it at that
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/23/19 8:18:27 AM
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Fucking Hell, what is so special about UR that he gets to troll unpunished? Seomeone please tell me
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Error1355
11/23/19 8:18:42 AM
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I think you guys forget how long ago Admiral stepped down as a mod and are mixing up a lot of his offensive comments made after leaving the mod staff with before.

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Choco
11/23/19 8:19:27 AM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
Choco posted...

you're kinda proving yourself wrong, because all those warnings and karma losses should have been enough for a ban a while ago

Literally not how it works at all

yes it is. moderation history matters
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Alucard188
11/23/19 8:20:38 AM
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Error1355 posted...
I think you guys forget how long ago Admiral stepped down as a mod and are mixing up a lot of his offensive comments made after leaving the mod staff with before.


I don't even remember how long ago he stepped down. Shit, was it before Krystal? I think it was. I don't even remember him being an LM back when Trayvon Martin shit happened.

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Solid Sonic
11/23/19 8:22:48 AM
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Personally I think it was caving to pressure from other users who were tired of the "have a lot of tenure = never get banned" thing.

It's like Batman's no-killing rule: makes sense and is admirable but, holy shit, just let the Joker fall to his death once in awhile. No one's going to mind.

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scar the 1
11/23/19 8:25:14 AM
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UR is so good he's making Error cuss
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pegusus123456
11/23/19 8:30:51 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
defending child abuse (you know the word I want to use here but it's not safe too )

Unfair attacking someone for defending child abuse?

lol
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MI4 REAL
11/23/19 8:32:12 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
UR is so good he's making Error cuss


That's not against the ToU

Did you not fucking know that?
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scar the 1
11/23/19 8:33:29 AM
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MI4 REAL posted...
scar the 1 posted...
UR is so good he's making Error cuss


That's not against the ToU

Did you not fucking know that?

It's certainly against the beep bep
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MI4 REAL
11/23/19 8:34:43 AM
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It has exactly the same amount of letters and words as "fuck you"
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MI4 REAL
11/23/19 8:35:04 AM
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beep bep
fuck you
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PopOutAtYoParty
11/23/19 8:35:21 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
MI4 REAL posted...
scar the 1 posted...
UR is so good he's making Error cuss


That's not against the ToU

Did you not fucking know that?

It's certainly against the beep bep


Posting ToU violations would get you demodded, as stated by Alucard in this topic.

So no, it's not against the ToU. Admiral would need to make ToU violations like repeatedly telling users to get a goddamn life for him to get demodded, not a harmless beep bep.
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MI4 REAL
11/23/19 8:35:51 AM
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And all this time you were trying to warn me about false walls.
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