Current Events > Trump's golf cart rentals have now cost US taxpayers over $500k

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Bio1590
11/22/19 12:37:16 AM
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https://qz.com/1753518/trump-golf-cart-rentals-have-now-cost-us-taxpayers-550000/

US president Donald Trump is almost two weeks into the impeachment hearings that have roiled his administration. But it hasnt prevented him from making some winter plans to play a little golf.

The president spends a lot of time on the links, almost exclusively at his own properties. At the end of October, Trump made his 224th visit to one of his 17 golf courses since assuming office three years ago. On each outing, the Secret Service must follow. And with their golf carts comes a big bill for the American public.

As Trump rides around with his invited guestson his last visit to the Trump National Golf Course in Potomac, Maryland, he was accompanied by Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred, and Republican senators Lindsey Graham and David Perduethe Secret Service is never far behind, in their own carts. As Quartz first reported, the carts require modifications that allow them to go at least 19 mph, about 5 mph faster than a standard cart.

The Secret Service has rented 84 golf carts for Trumps planned visits to Florida between now and May 2020, costing US taxpayers more than $50,000, according to federal procurement filings. That brings the total cost of the agencys cart rentals for Trumps golf outings to more than $550,000.

The vendor supplying the golf carts this time arounda company called Maddox Joines Inc, which does business as Sunshine Golf Caris a 24-mile drive down the turnpike from Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach. The presidents protective detail rented the same number of carts from Maddox Joines last winter, plus 36 additional carts on an as needed, periodic basis.

The price of protecting Trump on the course continues to climb. Yet, the 2019-2020 presidential winter golf season will, at least, be slightly less expensive than the 2019 summer season, which required some $95,000 from American taxpayers to pay for Secret Service golf carts in Bedminster, New Jersey. Bedminster is the home of the Trump International Golf Club. In 2018, the Secret Service spent nearly $120,000 on golf carts to be used there, rented from Associates Golf Car Service of Poughkeepsie, NY. New golf carts range in price from about $4,000 to about $15,000.

In total, Trumps golf gameswhich include paying the salaries and expenses of his Secret Service detailhave so far cost taxpayers an estimated $110,000,000, according to TrumpGolfCount.com.

The Secret Service did not respond to a request for comment, but previously told Quartz: For operational security reasons, the Secret Service cannot discuss specifically nor in general terms the means, methods, resources, costs, or numbers we utilize to carry out our protective responsibilities.

Before he was elected, Trump regularly excoriated former US president Barack Obama for golfing.

However, Obama played 333 rounds of golf during his 8-year tenure as presidentroughly 1,665 hoursor about 3% of his total time in office. Roughly 61% of his outings took place at golf courses owned and operated by the US military. In a little less than three years, Trump has so far spent nearly 2,200 hours golfing, or roughly 20% of his time in office. He has played all but two rounds at his own private clubs, according to Craig Holman, a government affairs lobbyist at Public Citizen, a DC watchdog group. Obamas predecessor, president George W. Bush, played just 24 rounds of golf during his two terms as commander-in-chief.

Needless to say, this is yet another example of the brazen hypocrisy that marks Donald Trump, Holman told Quartz. All of these taxpayer costs would otherwise be minimal if Trump followed the precedent of all other presidents by conducting business and vacationing on government-owned properties.

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Bio1590
11/22/19 12:37:24 AM
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And even though Trump himself is not personally pocketing the Secret Services cart rental fees, Jordan Libowitz, a spokesperson for the nonprofit Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, said Trumps refusal to separate himself from his business empire still makes it a conflict. Revenues at many of Trumps golf clubs have declined in recent years.

The issue isnt that Trump enjoys golf, the issue is that he continues to make promotional appearances at the businesses he still owns, Libowitz told Quartz. So taxpayers arent just footing the bill for the presidents hobby, theyre picking up the bill to help him drum up business for his struggling golf properties.

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008Zulu
11/22/19 12:43:04 AM
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That's more than what most of Trump's supporters would earn in five years. How does that make you feel; That Trump has spent more on golf carts than what you'd make in 5 years?
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Tired-Insomniac
11/22/19 3:02:53 PM
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008Zulu posted...
That's more than what most of Trump's supporters would earn in five years. How does that make you feel; That Trump has spent more on golf carts than what you'd make in 5 years?


"I would gladly give my full salary to MY President Donald Trump for five years to help MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"
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11/22/19 3:07:54 PM
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DifferentialEquation
11/22/19 3:21:23 PM
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$500k is not that much in terms of government expenditures.

Also, you seem to think that because conservatives want tax cuts and limited government in general, that we must be against any government expenditures. Not so. We're fine with some government spending as long as it's not wasteful, isn't a case of the government overstepping its bounds and is actually beneficial to the country
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ChocoboMogALT
11/22/19 3:21:24 PM
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More of a problem is him going to his own golf courses or places he wishes to promote and spending tax payer money, essentially profiting as a public servant.

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divot1338
11/22/19 3:52:10 PM
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DifferentialEquation
11/22/19 4:00:15 PM
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divot1338 posted...
https://patch.com/district-columbia/washingtondc/donald-trump-once-cashed-13-cent-check-incredible-true-stories


Rich people are often frugal and careful with their money. For a lot of them, that's how they got to be rich. You've probably met a number of mutlimillionaires without realizing it because they're modest when it comes to their cars, clothes and other things that people typically waste money on.
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spudger
11/22/19 4:01:06 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/522108442514038784

god he's such a worthless moron
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divot1338
11/22/19 4:17:43 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
divot1338 posted...
https://patch.com/district-columbia/washingtondc/donald-trump-once-cashed-13-cent-check-incredible-true-stories


Rich people are often frugal and careful with their money. For a lot of them, that's how they got to be rich. You've probably met a number of mutlimillionaires without realizing it because they're modest when it comes to their cars, clothes and other things that people typically waste money on.

Apparently hes so frugal that only a Saudi Arabian arms dealer and he are cheap enough to cash the unsolicited 13 cent check.
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Southernfatman
11/22/19 4:23:04 PM
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*Democrat in office*
"THE DEFICIT! THE DEFICIT! THE DEFICIT! WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

*Republican in office*

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spudger
11/22/19 5:06:32 PM
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Highwind07 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
$500k is not that much in terms of government expenditures.

Also, you seem to think that because conservatives want tax cuts and limited government in general, that we must be against any government expenditures. Not so. We're fine with some government spending as long as it's not wasteful, isn't a case of the government overstepping its bounds and is actually beneficial to the country


The problem is how many golfing trips he has taken solely to Mar A Lago and how he also criticized Obama for doing this but ended up doing more of it. It is not just a problem with spending in general

fyi: you are responding to a gimmick account.
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iPhone_7
11/22/19 5:08:23 PM
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Its not that much/not that big a deal when Trump does it.
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DD Divine
11/22/19 5:12:39 PM
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Just walk the golf course you lazy fuck

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Kazi1212
11/22/19 5:19:16 PM
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$500k is nothing for some of the deals that got done on the golf course to help the American people
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RchHomieQuanChi
11/22/19 5:19:34 PM
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I find it absolutely amazing that Trump basically has a tweet from the past criticizing literally every dumb thing he's done during his Presidency.
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DD Divine
11/22/19 5:24:07 PM
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Nall posted...
So just out of curiosity when a president makes a plan to go golfing, is he informed the total cost for this outing is $X? Or would he only be made aware after the fact?


either way he doesnt care. The elite like him never do.

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justaguy3492
11/22/19 5:25:59 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
$500k is not that much in terms of government expenditures.

Also, you seem to think that because conservatives want tax cuts and limited government in general, that we must be against any government expenditures. Not so. We're fine with some government spending as long as it's not wasteful, isn't a case of the government overstepping its bounds and is actually beneficial to the country


lmao, what are you talking about? $500k for the benefit of one person is a ton of money.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
11/22/19 5:29:57 PM
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Can't he just simply buy a golf cart for a few 1000?

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DifferentialEquation
11/22/19 7:19:35 PM
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justaguy3492 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
$500k is not that much in terms of government expenditures.

Also, you seem to think that because conservatives want tax cuts and limited government in general, that we must be against any government expenditures. Not so. We're fine with some government spending as long as it's not wasteful, isn't a case of the government overstepping its bounds and is actually beneficial to the country


lmao, what are you talking about? $500k for the benefit of one person is a ton of money.


I said beneficial to the country, not to one person.

But, if you wanna go down that road, then do you support universal healthcare? Because if you do, then undertand there are many instances where an individual's medical bills could end up in the millions.
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Bluebomber182
11/22/19 7:20:30 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/522108442514038784


Theres always a tweet
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DifferentialEquation
11/22/19 7:24:00 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Can't he just simply buy a golf cart for a few 1000?


If I were in charge of things, I would have a custom golf cart made for Trump that resembles the Warthog from Halo, but in a gold color scheme. I would then have Air Force One modified to be able to fly it around and deploy it on the golf course.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
11/22/19 8:24:25 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
If I were in charge of things, I would have a custom golf cart made for Trump that resembles the Warthog from Halo, but in a gold color scheme. I would then have Air Force One modified to be able to fly it around and deploy it on the golf course.


If I had some wealth I'd go for the Landspeeder design.

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hockeybub89
11/22/19 8:27:47 PM
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I can't believe we have a President playing golf instead of presidenting

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spudger
11/22/19 8:29:24 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I can't believe we have a President playing golf instead of presidenting

reminder that he spent 8 years whinging at Obama for playing golf 1/100th the time he has in less than 4 years.
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BillyKidd
11/22/19 8:31:22 PM
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Obama goes golfing by himself: sweet man
Trump brings his work with him to the course: evil money waster

Never change, CE
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Bluebomber182
11/22/19 8:44:05 PM
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@BillyKidd

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spudger
11/22/19 8:45:31 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
@BillyKidd

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he's a troll

you wont get a response
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BillyKidd
11/22/19 8:46:29 PM
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@Bluebomber182 and? Like I said Obama was always vacationing on the golf courses while Trump is always working when he goes.
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spudger
11/22/19 8:47:13 PM
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@BillyKidd posted...
@Bluebomber182 and? Like I said Obama was always vacationing on the golf courses while Trump is always working when he goes.


if youre gonna troll: prove it
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Bluebomber182
11/22/19 8:48:17 PM
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Imagine believing that. You trying to pick up Addy's racist slack now that hes banned?
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Bluebomber182
11/22/19 8:53:37 PM
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@BillyKidd Got any proof?
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spudger
11/22/19 8:54:19 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
@BillyKidd Got any proof?

@BillyKidd has no proof cuz he's a liar and trolling
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BillyKidd
11/22/19 9:05:55 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
@BillyKidd Got any proof?


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/1/trump-uses-golf-course-for-business-unlike-obama/
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DifferentialEquation
11/22/19 9:53:53 PM
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Highwind07 posted...
Also the fact that he only chooses his own golf courses from his own business holding is really a not so subtle attempt to push his brand.


Or maybe it's because his golf courses are the best ones. That's like saying Gordon Ramsay shouldn't eat his own cooking.
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BillyKidd
11/23/19 12:52:42 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
BillyKidd posted...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/1/trump-uses-golf-course-for-business-unlike-obama/


The article listed that Trump played golf with staffers, pros, military, and other leaders BUT ALSO said that Obama practically did the same.

Also the fact that he only chooses his own golf courses from his own business holding is really a not so subtle attempt to push his brand.


Might want to re-read it. It says Obama predominantly brought staffers and friends and that it was rare he went with anyone outside that inner circle, which would be other leaders, other politicians, big business owners, etc....
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gamer167
11/23/19 3:00:43 AM
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You could go down this fraud waste and abuse of tax payers dollars rabbit hole with any president in the last 100 years.
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1NfamousACE_2
11/23/19 9:09:40 AM
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It's not about all about the golfing

It's about him profiting personally

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