Current Events > Hunter Biden is guilty af too, right?

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shockthemonkey posted...

Even if Hunter Biden was guilty, what Trump did was still illegal and impeachable

Idk how anyone with a brain could think what Trump did wasn't illegal.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Shokin.

Can you show proof instead of just saying that I'm wrong maybe I'm mistaken

The impeachment case is like 5+ hours. The video I posted was from something saw a few weeks ago. Only took me 1 minute to post it

Guilty as fuck.

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I don't know what the solution is to "People are given jobs because they are related to people in power, but that person in power didn't get them the job".
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

Can you show proof instead of just saying that I'm wrong maybe I'm mistaken

No, you see, this is the entire fucking problem. You literally just posted the a ton of right wing propaganda lies without even considering validating the info first. Me doing your critical thinking for you doesn't fix the problem here. The problem isn't you being wrong about the Burisma investigation. The problem is you accepting talking points as truth without doing any actual analysis, investigating, or research. So I do that for you this time, then what? Next time you do the same ignorant thing--Repeat some talking point because you've never bothered to cultivate the skills to research the facts. Go look it up yourself. This shit isn't rocket science. Basically every single news article on the subject will validate this info, which tells me you've done literally nothing before talking on this subject.

Stop spreading propaganda. Educate yourself. Use your own brain and your own god damn time or stop just revel in your ignorance but at least shut up about it.

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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

The impeachment case is like 5+ hours. The video I posted was from something saw a few weeks ago. Only took me 1 minute to post it

so you're saying you didn't watch the video?
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Sackgurl posted...

so you're saying you didn't watch the video?

The video I posted I had already watched a few weeks ago

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

You can't just say something is debunked then show no proof. Then get mad at the person for asking proof because you feel they researched and didn't come to the same conclusion as you. If there is an article exonerating him then post it

No, dude, you see, I know you didn't research it because you are literally just saying stuff that has never been corroborated. It's like arguing with a flat earther. And frankly, me proving the Earth isn't flat: 1. Probably won't convince them otherwise, and 2. Won't stop them from latching on to zome stupid theory about Chemtrails in two weeks because they've still never learned how to apply critical thinking to information. I don't give a shit about proving Hunter did nothing wrong and there's no evidence of wrongdoing to you, specifically, because the effort is wasted on deaf ears. Why? Because I will now demonstrate the steps necessary to receive adequate information on the subject.

1. Go to google.
2. Search "Did hunter biden do anything wrong"
3. Click on the first article.
4. Read the article with your eyes and brain.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hunter-biden-ukraine/what-hunter-biden-did-on-the-board-of-ukrainian-energy-company-burisma-idUSKBN1WX1P7

This is something you should have done before making any statements on the subject. You are ethically responsible to educate yourself before engaging in a subject beyond mere fact finding. Not doing this is essentially intellectual suicide for dumb people.

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So what youre saying is that Hunter Biden is guilty?
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iPhone_7 posted...

So what youre saying is that Hunter Biden is guilty?

Bigly

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May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board. Around that time, Burismas founder, a former government official named Mykola Zlochevsky, was under investigation for alleged money laundering by Britains Serious Fraud Office.

Dec. 8, 2015: Biden visited Kiev again and spoke out against bureaucratic corruption that he said was eating Ukraine like a cancer. Biden threatened to withhold loan guarantees unless Ukraines top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had been widely accused of corruption, was removed.

Shokin had investigated Burisma but the probe was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the prosecutors termination, Bloomberg reported earlier this year, citing a former Ukrainian official.

March 29, 2016: The Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Shokin.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-timeline/timeline-key-dates-in-the-u-s-political-controversy-over-ukraine-idUSKBN1W82HK

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probably the more relevant reuters article on the subject is this one, which outlines what the investigation shokin inherited from his predecesor actually covered

https://tinyurl.com/y4qwe35h

The National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) said an investigation was ongoing into permits granted by officials at the Ministry of Ecology for the use of natural resources to a string of companies managed by Burisma.

But it said the period under investigation was 2010-2012, and noted that this was before the company hired Hunter Biden.

Changes to the board of Burisma Limited, which are currently the object of international attention, took place only in May 2014, and therefore are not and never were the subject of (the anti-corruption bureaus) investigation, the bureaus statement said.

there's a paywall-blocked NYT article that notes that the obama admin actively wanted the investigation of burisma in particular to continue and part of the reason shokin was pressured to be fired was he wasn't doing his job and was protecting allies of Putin. burisma was controlled by Mykola Zlochevsky (a Putin ally) at the time. that is the reason the US government wanted shokin fired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/22/us/politics/biden-ukraine-trump.html

there's also this

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/timeline-in-ukraine-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim

Theres little question that the Bidens paths in Ukraine held the potential for conflict, and in a tweet last week, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said the U.S. should investigate the matter. But what has received less attention is that at the time Biden made his ultimatum, the probe into the company -- Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky -- had been long dormant, according to the former official, Vitaliy Kasko.

There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky, Kasko said in an interview last week. It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015.

kasko was shokin's deputy. so anyone claiming shokin was actively investigating hunter biden is a liar
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So what youre saying is that the Bidens are guilty?
Well damn
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i am absolutely not voting for hunter biden in 2020 after this

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shockthemonkey posted...

@Tony_Biggie_Pun

Heres that information you wanted

Thanks about to read it

shockthemonkey posted...

Thoughts?

And prayers?
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My thoughts are

Thompson posted...

May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board. Around that time, Burismas founder, a former government official named Mykola Zlochevsky, was under investigation for alleged money laundering by Britains Serious Fraud Office.
Dec. 8, 2015: Biden visited Kiev again and spoke out against bureaucratic corruption that he said was eating Ukraine like a cancer. Biden threatened to withhold loan guarantees unless Ukraines top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had been widely accused of corruption, was removed.
Shokin had investigated Burisma but the probe was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the prosecutors termination, Bloomberg reported earlier this year, citing a former Ukrainian official.
March 29, 2016: The Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Shokin.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-timeline/timeline-key-dates-in-the-u-s-political-controversy-over-ukraine-idUSKBN1W82HK

So this along with the below video

https://youtu.be/vCSF3reVr10
(Biden confession that he used good pull to get the prosecutor fired)

Shows definitively that he did use his pull and the threat withhold funds to get the prosecutor fired. That in itself subverts the Democratic process of Ukraine. Since when does Biden get to decide what goes on in the Ukraine Justice system? He himself even bragged how he had more pull than the actual President

The only question now here though is motives. And if his son being on the board and potentially being implicated was a motivating factor in him doing this. There's no way for me to know if that's true or not.

Sackgurl posted...
kasko was shokin's deputy. so anyone claiming shokin was actively investigating hunter biden is a liar

Although the probe was dormant at the time doesn't mean that it wasn't done in retaliation or to get a friendlier prosecutor in place