Current Events > Your reaction: Canada legalizes murder.

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They announce that as of December's 6th murder is no longer illegal in Canada as they dont believe citizens need the law to tell them that it is wrong

https://i.imgur.com/FMe5PVX.jpg

How do you react?
What do you think would happen?
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theres still consequences...

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Moose massacres

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well, I guess I know where I'm going for vacation

not Canada

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Interesting it's not "your country" instead of Canada hmm....

stay out of Canada
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UnfairRepresent posted...

How do you react?
What do you think would happen?

Probably nothing would change. Humans existed for tens of thousands of years without laws against murder. The deterrent is 1) retaliation, and 2) knowing that you'll basically be an outcast from society if you do it.

It's only left-wing thinking that we need a strong government to control people's morals.
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The Admiral posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

How do you react?
What do you think would happen?

Probably nothing would change. Humans existed for tens of thousands of years without laws against murder. The deterrent is 1) retaliation, and 2) knowing that you'll basically be an outcast from society if you do it.

It's only left-wing thinking that we need a strong government to control people's morals.

Lmfao
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Touch posted...

Moose massacres

Moossacres

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Canada will become a war zone.
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It would definitely spike murders way up, but I doubt it would affect daily life that much. The number of people with a natural impetus to murder is definitely very low. It would affect any area with gang violence the most. I really can't imagine Canada with a major gang violence problem.

nemu posted...

I really can't imagine Canada with a major gang violence problem.

Maybe it's not on the level of gangs in the US, but Canada has no shortage of organized crime and lots of wooded areas with nobody around for disposing of bodies.
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nemu posted...

It would definitely spike murders way up, but I doubt it would affect daily life that much. The number of people with a natural impetus to murder is definitely very low. It would affect any area with gang violence the most. I really can't imagine Canada with a major gang violence problem.

There are several cities in Canada with major gang violence problems, come on now.

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electricbugs2 posted...

nemu posted...

It would definitely spike murders way up, but I doubt it would affect daily life that much. The number of people with a natural impetus to murder is definitely very low. It would affect any area with gang violence the most. I really can't imagine Canada with a major gang violence problem.

There are several cities in Canada with major gang violence problems, come on now.

What would you say to the people who claim the gangs will still kill people even if it wasn't legal? And therefore would have no effect
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I'm pretty sure the total murders in Canada in a yearly basis is equal to a single US state, so they certainly could not have anything I'd quality as "major" gang issues. Do such a thing in the US, and I'm sure gang related murders would spike like 10,000%. The percentage for Canada would certainly not be so great even if you did both at a per capita rate.

nemu posted...

I'm pretty sure the total murders in Canada in a yearly basis is equal to a single US state, so they certainly could not have anything I'd quality as "major" gang issues. Do such a thing in the US, and I'm sure gang related murders would spike like 10,000%. The percentage for Canada would certainly not be so great even if you did both at a per capita rate.

For the record Canada's murder rate is 1.68 per 100,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate

So it's higher than Vermont, South Dakota, New Hampshire and Rhode Island.

And on par with Iwoa

But much much lower than all the other states. Especially Louisiana which has more than 6.5 times as many murders.

To be fair though, these figures are fluid. I mean Maine was consistently lower than Canada until a few years ago.
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nemu posted...

I'm pretty sure the total murders in Canada in a yearly basis is equal to a single US state, so they certainly could not have anything I'd quality as "major" gang issues. Do such a thing in the US, and I'm sure gang related murders would spike like 10,000%. The percentage for Canada would certainly not be so great even if you did both at a per capita rate.

Bro. I live two hours from Vancouver. Vancouver Police have a dedicated gang task force. Stop being ignorant.

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electricbugs2 posted...

Bro. I live two hours from Vancouver. Vancouver Police have a dedicated gang task force. Stop being ignorant.

There being a problem does not make it a major problem, at least relative to the rest of the world. This hypothetical would not cause untold chaos in a place that had 15 murders in 2018.

nemu posted...

There being a problem does not make it a major problem, at least relative to the rest of the world. This hypothetical would not cause untold chaos in a place that had 15 murders in 2018.

"We got a tiny little gang problem. Nothing to worry about."

"Better put together a task force anyway."

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nemu posted...

There being a problem does not make it a major problem, at least relative to the rest of the world. This hypothetical would not cause untold chaos in a place that had 15 murders in 2018.

Bro, just fucking stop. You have literally zero idea what youre talking about.

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It's probably a problem for a Canadian city, but it's still a minor problem relative to places with high gang activity like the US. Even if this gang violence caused murders to spike by 1000%, which I'm certain is not the case, you're still looking at only 150 murders in one city.

nemu posted...

It's probably a problem for a Canadian city, but it's still a minor problem relative to places with high gang activity like the US. Even if this gang violence caused murders to spike by 1000%, which I'm certain is not the case, you're still looking at only 150 murders in one city.

Youre just continually proving you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. Just shut up already, god damn.

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electricbugs2 posted...

Youre just continually proving you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. Just shut up already, god damn.

What exactly are you trying to say? Just because you view something as a major issue locally does not make it major elsewhere. Ten murders in a place with a 0.00 murder rate per 100k would be a big deal for them, but not for you.

electricbugs2 posted...

Youre just continually proving you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. Just shut up already, god damn.

What is he wrong about? He's just saying that it still wouldn't be any worse than the US. In 2018 there were 651 homicides in Canada in its entirety. In Chicago alone there 561. 2017 had 660 which isn't too far off from CA's 666. One city nearly matches an entire countries homicide count.

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electricbugs2 posted...

Bro. I live two hours from Vancouver. Vancouver Police have a dedicated gang task force. Stop being ignorant.

I mean so does Penticton so it existing doesnt necessarily mean a whole lot.

That said anyone who knows about vancouver knows gangs there have been pretty fucking violent and gun happy.

Hell i still remember covering the shooting in kelowna where the one bacon brother got killed. That shit was nuts.

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Making murder illegal doesn't stop murder, it just makes murderers criminals. By decriminalizing it, we can reduce the prison population, allowing murder to be a personal choice, not a criminal offense.
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Politics posted...

Making murder illegal doesn't stop murder, it just makes murderers criminals. By decriminalizing it, we can reduce the prison population, allowing murder to be a personal choice, not a criminal offense.

Well you're not wrong literally
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Uh, probably murder myself lol

Edit: topic seems a little too familiar
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