Current Events > Missionaries are some brave people.

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Imagine going to places that will have you publically executed for teaching your religion because you feel that you will save their souls.

I'm an atheist but I can respect stuff like that as long as you arent trying to convert by force.

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My aunt and uncle do missionary work all the time in Africa. It's a semi regular occurrence for groups of militia with AK-47s to walk up and take their food/medicine away.
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imagine actually believing that missionaries are peace loving
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It's pretty rude to impose one's belief on others.
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There's a country that missionaries taught racism to. Fuck, I wish I could remember more details or the video.

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Lmao. God Duncan as hilariously fucking ignorant as ever.
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RebelElite791 posted...

Lmao. God Duncan as hilariously fucking ignorant as ever.

I covered violent missionaries in my post. I'm aware there are those who wish to push their religion onto others, they have existed for centuries. But people who go to other countries just to teach are brave and should be respected.

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how are they brave? they are spreading ignorance by teaching about gods that don't exist. more like brave and stunning really.
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Omg you went to a major, safe country to shill your religion, so braev! You might have been executed for it in South Korea!
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Wewillrocku posted...

how are they brave? they are spreading ignorance by teaching about gods that don't exist. more like brave and stunning really.

Would you go into an area full of tigers knowing the tigers would probably eat you because you want to save them? The average person would say "fuck no."

And yes I also think religion is bunk and these people are basically doing nothing but it's still brave to do regardless.

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Eh, I would say more like brainwashed and indoctrinated.
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I'm under the impression that most missionaries are going to relatively safe places.

A) Where does Duncan think missionaries are going?
B) What does Duncan think the world outside of America is like?
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JoeDangIt posted...

I'm under the impression that most missionaries are going to relatively safe places.

You are correct.
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you could call them impetuous, arrogant, full of themselves, but not brave.
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GregShmedley posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Omg you went to a major, safe country to shill your religion, so braev! You might have been executed for it in South Korea!

Except missionaries don't just go to safe countries...but good ole Rebel remaining constantly upset. Can't help himself but act like a dick to the majority of the board.

The vast majority of missionaries are going to safe, developed countries yes
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GregShmedley posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

The vast majority of missionaries are going to safe, developed countries yes

Source?

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2013/july/missionaries-countries-sent-received-csgc-gordon-conwell.html
https://www.therichest.com/the-biggest/10-countries-most-often-visited-by-missionaries/
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RebelElite791 posted...

GregShmedley posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

The vast majority of missionaries are going to safe, developed countries yes

Source?

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2013/july/missionaries-countries-sent-received-csgc-gordon-conwell.html
https://www.therichest.com/the-biggest/10-countries-most-often-visited-by-missionaries/

On a missions trip, one is generally expected to evangelize along with doing some sort of service for the host area such as building homes, cooking meals, helping with education, health care, literacy, or whatever the area might be lacking.

Such bad people, I know.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

GregShmedley posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

The vast majority of missionaries are going to safe, developed countries yes

Source?

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2013/july/missionaries-countries-sent-received-csgc-gordon-conwell.html
https://www.therichest.com/the-biggest/10-countries-most-often-visited-by-missionaries/

On a missions trip, one is generally expected to evangelize along with doing some sort of service for the host area such as building homes, cooking meals, helping with education, health care, literacy, or whatever the area might be lacking.

Such bad people, I know.

Is that relevant to what I posted? Are you illiterate? Did you respond to the right post?
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There is sometimes confusion between bravery and stupidity.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

On a missions trip, one is generally expected to evangelize along with doing some sort of service for the host area such as building homes, cooking meals, helping with education, health care, literacy, or whatever the area might be lacking.

Such bad people, I know.

They're just virtue signaling with the goal of making their religion look good enough to convert to. They are selling a product.

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I know a few missionaries and lots of people that went on "mission trips" to build a school and play soccer with kids or whatever for a couple weeks. And a nurse that went down to do medically things in a clinic, etc. Dunno why everyone here thinks that's so terrible.
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I'm just reminded of the missionary who went to North Sentinel Island and was killed. Then some people wanted the tribe charged with murder, even though people are warned not to go there.

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Truly curious what you think Brazil and India are like and if you think Brazilians are non-Christians who behead them like Duncan does
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ZEROWOLF posted...

Eh, I would say more like brainwashed and indoctrinated.

If they were making a difference like actually taking these people, food, medicine and were teaching them how to fight back that would be something to be proud of.

At most they get a little more time to live but eventually some freedom fighter group will come and either kill them, take war brides/rape slaves, or recruit them by force.
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GregShmedley posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Truly curious what you think Brazil and India are like and if you think Brazilians are non-Christians who behead them like Duncan does

Truly curious if you think they're some safe havens.

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-life-is-like-in-some-of-the-worlds-most-dangerous-countries-2018-10

Let's not strawman now. No one brought up beheadings.

Oh right, public executions sorry. Lots of Christians being executed for their religion in Brazil.
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For what it's worth I really had missionaries going to places like Syria and Yeman and other majorially Sharia countries in mind that are classically known to execute people of differing religions. I wasnt thinking of places like Brazil which while dangerous in their own rights, wont kill you for being christian.

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GregShmedley posted...

A 2012 study by political scientist Robert Woodberry, focusing on Protestant missionaries, found that they have often left a very positive societal impact in the areas where they worked. "In cross-national statistical analysis Protestant missions are significantly and robustly associated with higher levels of printing, education, economic development, organizational civil society, protection of private property, and rule of law and with lower levels of corruption".[89]
A 2017 study found that areas of colonial Mexico that had Mendicant missions have higher rates of literacy and educational attainment today than regions that did not have missions.[90] Areas that had Jesuit missions are today indistinct from the areas that had no missions.[90] The study also found that "the share of Catholics is higher in regions where Catholic missions of any kind were a historical present."[90]
A 2016 study found that regions in Sub-Saharan Africa that Protestant missionaries brought printing presses to are today "associated with higher newspaper readership, trust, education, and political participation."[91][92]
Missionaries have also made significant contributions to linguistics and the description and documentation of many languages. "Many languages today exist only in missionary records. More than anywhere else, our knowledge of the native languages in South America has been the product of missionary activity Without missionary documentation the reclamation [of several languages] would have been completely impossible"[93] "A satisfactory history of linguistics cannot be written before the impressive contribution of missionaries is recognised."[94]
In 2019, Monika Zin, a German researcher of Buddhist art and achicitecture claimed that several Christian missionaries used translations of Jataka tales and Panchatanatra to claim that Jesus was Buddhist to advance their proselytyzation activities in Japan[95].

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary

Too bad they weren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts

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by the sound of it syria and yemen (you misspelled that) won't kill anyone for being christian, just for being christian missionaries.
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Imagine having such a hate boner for religion that you legitmately get upset over people doing amazing charity work for underprivileged people. Its not like these groups are putting guns to people's heads and forcing them to follow Christianity.

thrashmetal14 posted...

Imagine having such a hate boner for religion that you legitmately get upset over people doing amazing charity work for underprivileged people. Its not like these groups are putting guns to people's heads and forcing them to follow Christianity.

no, they leave that to their god, who threatens them with hell (and physical death, according to the bible). missionaries also frequently appear just before armies do.
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I think it can be brave, sure. But brave and respectable are two different things. It's brave when people go and hunt tigers with a bow and arrow, but it's also a bad thing because poaching is bad. I also think evangelizing is bad. If this is about helping people, then that's good. I'm with the food and medicine and clothing and all that charity. I'm not for conversions and evangelizing though

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Duncanwii posted...

For what it's worth I really had missionaries going to places like Syria and Yeman and other majorially Sharia countries in mind that are classically known to execute people of differing religions. I wasnt thinking of places like Brazil which while dangerous in their own rights, wont kill you for being christian.

Christians are not executed in Syria and Yemen you dolt. Jesus christ.
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I'm starting to think the only normal topics that Duncan is capable of making are Pokemon gameplay topics
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There's something decidedly gross about missionary going to help feed the poor, build schools and homes, and then very cleverly sneaking the Jesus sales pitch in there.

Like, literally the only reason to go do these things as a missionary rather than as just a person going to help the needy is because you have ulterior motives that are designed to get YOU into heaven.

And no, missionaries are not in fucking danger. At least not more so than other people in the region they're going to. Spoilers: Countries that would be actually dangerous to Christian missionaries do not allow Christian missionaries in the first place. Do you think there's some secret underground cult of people spreading the word of Jebus in such a place? The present isnt like that Martin Scorsese movie from 2017 or so.

Remember that guy who got killed last year or so because he wanted to preach to the uncontacted people on North Sentinel Island in the Indian sea, or something like that? He was a complete fucking asshole who wanted to endanger the lives of these people via germ transmission, because them hearing the word Jebus is more important to him than them being alive, for religious reasons.
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Duncanwii posted...

Wewillrocku posted...

how are they brave? they are spreading ignorance by teaching about gods that don't exist. more like brave and stunning really.

Would you go into an area full of tigers knowing the tigers would probably eat you because you want to save them? The average person would say "fuck no."

And yes I also think religion is bunk and these people are basically doing nothing but it's still brave to do regardless.

Stupidity is not bravery
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Historically a lot of missionaries have done a lot more harm than good........

The people who deserve praise are the ones who go to impoverished/dangerous countries to offer aid without holding it ransom in the name of Jesus.

BTW has anybody here read The Poisonwood Bible?
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Curious if people defending missionaries ITT consider US Evangelicals going to African countries like Uganda to spread anti-LGBTQ propaganda missionaries or not.
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Bio1590 posted...

Curious if people defending missionaries ITT consider US Evangelicals going to African countries like Uganda to spread anti-LGBTQ propaganda missionaries or not.

Missionaries have also been a huge part of why AIDS has been able to spread so far in Africa...by convincing everybody that contraceptives are immoral.

Nice job, missionaries
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Lets not confuse bravery with stupidity.
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Sometimes wanting to go help someone can cause bad things to happen even if you never thought it would happen before you started.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all.

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Duncanwii posted...

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all.

Is that what you tell yourself after shitposting violently?
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Being brave and being dumb are often the same thing.
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