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Duncanwii
11/06/19 12:21:29 AM
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>No overpowered Legendaries gatekeeping lesser Pokemon from being good
>Same with Megas
>No competitive mainstays like Garchomp and Metagross mean players will actually have to adapt and form strategies instead of sending out a pseudo and brute forcing every match

All they need to do is remove Stealth Rocks and it will be perfect.

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SolKarellen
11/06/19 12:32:32 AM
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Stealth rock still feels like it was a huge mistake due to how it devalues any Pokmon with a rock weakness. RIP Charizard with the 4x rock weakness.
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gunplagirl
11/06/19 12:37:35 AM
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SolKarellen posted...
Stealth rock still feels like it was a huge mistake due to how it devalues any Pokmon with a rock weakness. RIP Charizard with the 4x rock weakness.


Yeah. And unlike spikes, it can't be avoided by anything based on type or ability unless that ability ignores all damage not directly from an attack.

Maybe if it was "can only hit 3 times before fading" or heck, "can only hit a Pokemon once per battle" then it wouldn't be so annoying.
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averagejoel
11/06/19 12:39:17 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
SolKarellen posted...
Stealth rock still feels like it was a huge mistake due to how it devalues any Pokmon with a rock weakness. RIP Charizard with the 4x rock weakness.


Yeah. And unlike spikes, it can't be avoided by anything based on type or ability unless that ability ignores all damage not directly from an attack.

Maybe if it was "can only hit 3 times before fading" or heck, "can only hit a Pokemon once per battle" then it wouldn't be so annoying.

lol singles
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Lordgold666
11/06/19 12:43:35 AM
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I stopped competitive battling on shoddy in the emerald days, its too much once life takes over

Nowadays, i cant even keep track of whos stats are what, or whatre common team strategies, etc

Its crazy
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gunplagirl
11/06/19 2:09:35 AM
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averagejoel posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SolKarellen posted...
Stealth rock still feels like it was a huge mistake due to how it devalues any Pokmon with a rock weakness. RIP Charizard with the 4x rock weakness.


Yeah. And unlike spikes, it can't be avoided by anything based on type or ability unless that ability ignores all damage not directly from an attack.

Maybe if it was "can only hit 3 times before fading" or heck, "can only hit a Pokemon once per battle" then it wouldn't be so annoying.

lol singles


For what it's worth, my favorite modes are

That showdown random team mode

Followed by singles - pick 3 from your shown team of 6
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ffmasterjose
11/06/19 2:16:18 AM
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I haven't really played Pokemon competitive since Diamond/Pearl but I remember the entire meta was based around Stealth Rock and/or Toxic Spikes and it sucked. How has that still not been addressed
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gunplagirl
11/06/19 2:18:07 AM
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ffmasterjose posted...
I haven't really played Pokemon competitive since Diamond/Pearl but I remember the entire meta was based around Stealth Rock and/or Toxic Spikes and it sucked. How has that still not been addressed


I mean at least 5th gen introduced that hidden ability that would bounce them back. Not that the things which could use it were really okay to use in 6th gen. :/
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CM_Ponch
11/06/19 2:41:49 AM
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In a week there will be a new meta with the same exact problems as every other gen

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ultimate reaver
11/06/19 2:52:05 AM
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"competitive pokemon"

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gunplagirl
11/06/19 5:53:10 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
In a week there will be a new meta with the same exact problems as every other gen


Nah, first month will have something like the Gen 5 "reuniclus too strong (but mostly we haven't figured out how to use the new Pokemon and moves)" problem... or the Gen 6/7 "Aegislash/ pheromosa op" problem that will define the entire generation's meta.

For what it's worth, I put the most time into gen 4's meta and it was the least enjoyable out of any besides pre ORAS gen 6 for me.
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Relient_K
11/06/19 6:03:20 AM
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I always hoped that rock types could absorb stealth rock on switch in and heal 1/8 of their health or something. Using the rocks to restore their body.

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GeneralKenobi85
11/06/19 6:14:17 AM
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It's not even out yet.
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mehmeh1
11/06/19 6:28:39 AM
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Aegislash, Toxapex, and Ferrothorn are still in while most of their counters aren't. Also, Galar Weezing will probably be used in like 90% of teams, especially in doubles
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awesome999
11/06/19 6:57:35 AM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
It's not even out yet.

This

When it does come out, the only difference is gonna be done pokes being missing

You can't beat the Pareto principle and Zipf's law
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Duncanwii
11/06/19 6:58:33 AM
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awesome999 posted...
When it does come out, the only difference is gonna be done pokes being missing
Those missing Pokemon are 70% of OU and all of Ubers.

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awesome999
11/06/19 6:59:37 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
awesome999 posted...
When it does come out, the only difference is gonna be done pokes being missing
Those missing Pokemon are 70% of OU and all of Ubers.

What about the remaining 30%
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mehmeh1
11/06/19 7:08:08 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
awesome999 posted...
When it does come out, the only difference is gonna be done pokes being missing
Those missing Pokemon are 70% of OU and all of Ubers.

lolsmogon
Aegislash is in
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Kajagogo
11/06/19 7:10:40 AM
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I've never played competitive. It's a waste of time imo.
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CM_Ponch
11/06/19 10:04:29 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Those missing Pokemon are 70% of OU and all of Ubers.
So that means in a month you'll be crying that Eternus spam is making the game boring and that all of his potential checks and counters are banned. The culling gives less competitive options.

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Alpha218
11/06/19 10:29:58 AM
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How do you know its the best its ever been when you havent played the game yet

Let alone the fact that Aegislash is in and some of the stuff that constrained it isnt

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DeadBankerDream
11/06/19 10:34:15 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
How do you know its the best its ever been when you havent played the game yet

Because he's trolling and hoping to get annoyed reactions by making controversial statements based on knowledge it is not possible for him to have
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Duncanwii
11/06/19 10:34:19 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
How do you know its the best its ever been when you havent played the game yet

Let alone the fact that Aegislash is in and some of the stuff that constrained it isnt
I already said why.

No legends
No psuedo legends
People might actually have to strategize instead of using brute force or banning whatever us giving them trouble

That's the issue with modern Pokemon. The solution to every problem is either hit it really hard or complain to the higher ups and get it banned. Except for Stealth Rock for some odd reason.

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CM_Ponch
11/06/19 1:13:26 PM
#24:


Duncanwii posted...
No psuedo legends
Tyranitar, Hydreigon, Kommo-O, and Gen 8's are all in
As well as Mew and the Gen 8 legendarys

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