Poll of the Day > Are you ever worried about committing hypocrisy?

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Or do you not care?
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You answer first, TC.
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Well...yes. I have concerns that I might be letting circumstance dictate my virtues at that moment.
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I dont care really hard
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Solid Sonic posted...

Well...yes. I have concerns that I might be letting circumstance dictate my virtues at that moment.

That's also my answer.

Also, I want to see what @TheWorstPoster thinks.
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Nope. My philosophy is that it's only hypocrisy if I don't change my ways once I realize what I'm doing is hypocritical.
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I definitely try to be logically consistent in my views as close to always as possible.
I usually end up butting heads w/ both the extreme left and extreme right due to that stance, so I guess I'm doing a good job of it.

One example: Being pro-choice
I don't think anybody should be forced to become a parent unwillingly and contraceptives and medical options should be readily available such that people who care about not being a parent till they're ready (or never) can pretty much be assured they will get to choose when/if they do.
Which...means I argue w/ the far right a lot.

BUT!
Being logically consistent....that basic right to not be forced into parenthood unwillingly (and certainly not as a "punishment" for promiscuity...why would anyone want a child to be seen as a punishment?) extends to both men and women. So I fully support "legal abortions" for would-be dads to sign away their parental rights and be free of any obligations to support the child. Which...leads to me arguing w/ the far left a lot, who seem to think only women shouldn't face "the punishment" of parental obligations for their lifestyle choices.

Bumpo.
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Humans are ever changing. Ideas I had yesterday may not reflect what I do today. It's human nature.
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No its quite in fashion now.

streamofthesky posted...

I definitely try to be logically consistent in my views as close to always as possible.
I usually end up butting heads w/ both the extreme left and extreme right due to that stance, so I guess I'm doing a good job of it.

One example: Being pro-choice
I don't think anybody should be forced to become a parent unwillingly and contraceptives and medical options should be readily available such that people who care about not being a parent till they're ready (or never) can pretty much be assured they will get to choose when/if they do.
Which...means I argue w/ the far right a lot.

BUT!
Being logically consistent....that basic right to not be forced into parenthood unwillingly (and certainly not as a "punishment" for promiscuity...why would anyone want a child to be seen as a punishment?) extends to both men and women. So I fully support "legal abortions" for would-be dads to sign away their parental rights and be free of any obligations to support the child. Which...leads to me arguing w/ the far left a lot, who seem to think only women shouldn't face "the punishment" of parental obligations for their lifestyle choices.

I understand your point. But in many cases, the pro-choice stance is predicated on the fact that it's a body autonomy issue for the pregnancy, not a freedom from parental responsibility issue. You cannot/should not treat men and women equally in this regard because they are not equal participants in the creation of the child.

Solid Sonic posted...

Or do you not care?

I don't care. I mean everyone is bound to be hypocritical at some point.
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I wouldn't use the word committing... But I do try my best not to be a hypocrite. It's important to recognize that literally everyone is hypocritical sometimes, whether they realize it or not... But it's important to me for myself and others to at least TRY to minimize the hypocrisy.
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streamofthesky posted...

I definitely try to be logically consistent in my views as close to always as possible.
I usually end up butting heads w/ both the extreme left and extreme right due to that stance, so I guess I'm doing a good job of it.

One example: Being pro-choice
I don't think anybody should be forced to become a parent unwillingly and contraceptives and medical options should be readily available such that people who care about not being a parent till they're ready (or never) can pretty much be assured they will get to choose when/if they do.
Which...means I argue w/ the far right a lot.

BUT!
Being logically consistent....that basic right to not be forced into parenthood unwillingly (and certainly not as a "punishment" for promiscuity...why would anyone want a child to be seen as a punishment?) extends to both men and women. So I fully support "legal abortions" for would-be dads to sign away their parental rights and be free of any obligations to support the child. Which...leads to me arguing w/ the far left a lot, who seem to think only women shouldn't face "the punishment" of parental obligations for their lifestyle choices.

According to all surveys, I'm a mega ultra liberal... But I agree with the second part too. When I first heard about it, my first reaction was something about how men shouldn't be able to get away from it. But then I had a deep discussion with my husband about it and realized that my initial reaction was just a relic of toxic feminism and my upbringing... The idea that the man should be punished for causing a pregnancy. It is physically impossible for reproductive choices to be completely even and fair for both men and women. It's simply a fact. But that legal idea goes some way toward a man having an actual choice. I've experienced the monetary punishment of the man as the child. :P
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No, I generally don't care what people think about me.
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Not really because I generally can adapt my views if necessary....not to say im fake, but if people point out my supposed hypocracy it allows me to evaulate my own stances and if need be make an adjustment.

being forced to think about things is not that bad.

Moonjay posted...

streamofthesky posted...

I definitely try to be logically consistent in my views as close to always as possible.
I usually end up butting heads w/ both the extreme left and extreme right due to that stance, so I guess I'm doing a good job of it.

One example: Being pro-choice
I don't think anybody should be forced to become a parent unwillingly and contraceptives and medical options should be readily available such that people who care about not being a parent till they're ready (or never) can pretty much be assured they will get to choose when/if they do.
Which...means I argue w/ the far right a lot.

BUT!
Being logically consistent....that basic right to not be forced into parenthood unwillingly (and certainly not as a "punishment" for promiscuity...why would anyone want a child to be seen as a punishment?) extends to both men and women. So I fully support "legal abortions" for would-be dads to sign away their parental rights and be free of any obligations to support the child. Which...leads to me arguing w/ the far left a lot, who seem to think only women shouldn't face "the punishment" of parental obligations for their lifestyle choices.

According to all surveys, I'm a mega ultra liberal... But I agree with the second part too. When I first heard about it, my first reaction was something about how men shouldn't be able to get away from it. But then I had a deep discussion with my husband about it and realized that my initial reaction was just a relic of toxic feminism and my upbringing... The idea that the man should be punished for causing a pregnancy. It is physically impossible for reproductive choices to be completely even and fair for both men and women. It's simply a fact. But that legal idea goes some way toward a man having an actual choice. I've experienced the monetary punishment of the man as the child. :P

I think that the issue is that it just never comes up in these arguments. It's wholly eclipsed by the question of the woman's right so most people simply never even consider it and, thusly, never get confronted by the question of if it should be a thing or not.
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