Current Events > Parents can soon be CHARGED if their transgender kid commits suicide

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karlpilkington4 10/06/19 11:53:04 PM #101:	Conflict posted... Welp, toyota got suspended for that dumbass post If we're lucky karl will get another vacation too This is offensive. I've contributed to this topic positively, and I didn't break the TOU once. Idk what your issue is. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928438905] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Welp, toyota got suspended for that dumbass post If we're lucky karl will get another vacation too</quote> This is offensive. I've contributed to this topic positively, and I didn't break the TOU once. Idk what your issue is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 10/06/19 11:53:35 PM #102:	Sirfetchd posted... The American Psychiatric Association now recognizes transsexuality as a physical (not mental) disorder. Major medical groups led by both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association now recommend that hormone blockers, and later hormone treatment, be provided to kids diagnosed with transsexuality. LMAO Can someone explain me why a 5 year old can't drink a beer, a glass of wine, or smoke a cigarette, but apparently the kid HAS to undergo hormonal treaments that will have far more significant and long lasting effects than a single bud light bottle? I'm all for trans right. But wait until you're old enough to buy a beer before you do things to your body you may or may not fully understand or change your mind about at an age where you still believe in Santa or can't vote <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:928438926] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>The American Psychiatric Association now recognizes transsexuality as a physical (not mental) disorder. Major medical groups led by both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association now recommend that hormone blockers, and later hormone treatment, be provided to kids diagnosed with transsexuality.</quote> LMAO Can someone explain me why a 5 year old can't drink a beer, a glass of wine, or smoke a cigarette, but apparently the kid HAS to undergo hormonal treaments that will have far more significant and long lasting effects than a single bud light bottle? I'm all for trans right. But wait until you're old enough to buy a beer before you do things to your body you may or may not fully understand or change your mind about at an age where you still believe in Santa or can't vote</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/06/19 11:55:49 PM #103:	inloveanddeath0 posted... Is this part of what my tax dollars are being used on? probably --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:928439014] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>inloveanddeath0 posted... </cite> <quote>Is this part of what my tax dollars are being used on?</quote>probably </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 10/07/19 12:20:51 AM #104:	Dragonblade01 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Yet the topic title is... So parents are now responsible for outside societal behavioral influences? I don't agree that parents should be charged for their child's suicide unless perhaps they themselves took part in not accepting their own child. That's how this would be applied. They'd actually look in to it you positively contributed to the kid's situation or if you were demonizing the kid and refusing them treatment. "Can be charged" not "will be charged" but you act with all the nuance of a bull in a China shop. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:928439942] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted... </cite> <quote>Yet the topic title is... So parents are now responsible for outside societal behavioral influences?</quote>I don't agree that parents should be charged for their child's suicide unless perhaps they themselves took part in not accepting their own child. </quote> That's how this would be applied. They'd actually look in to it you positively contributed to the kid's situation or if you were demonizing the kid and refusing them treatment. "Can be charged" not "will be charged" but you act with all the nuance of a bull in a China shop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 10/07/19 7:33:19 AM #105:	thronedfire2 posted... Uh, electric shock therapy is still used for some stuff. It works for certain things It's also safe. But I guess if he's not a fan of doctors he can go for crystal coffee enemas instead. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:928447268] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite> <quote>Uh, electric shock therapy is still used for some stuff. It works for certain things</quote> It's also safe. But I guess if he's not a fan of doctors he can go for crystal coffee enemas instead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 10/07/19 9:13:03 AM #106:	Shuto-uke posted... Sirfetchd posted... The American Psychiatric Association now recognizes transsexuality as a physical (not mental) disorder. Major medical groups led by both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association now recommend that hormone blockers, and later hormone treatment, be provided to kids diagnosed with transsexuality. LMAO Can someone explain me why a 5 year old can't drink a beer, a glass of wine, or smoke a cigarette, but apparently the kid HAS to undergo hormonal treaments that will have far more significant and long lasting effects than a single bud light bottle? I'm all for trans right. But wait until you're old enough to buy a beer before you do things to your body you may or may not fully understand or change your mind about at an age where you still believe in Santa or can't vote no one? <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:928449203] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>The American Psychiatric Association now recognizes transsexuality as a physical (not mental) disorder. Major medical groups led by both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association now recommend that hormone blockers, and later hormone treatment, be provided to kids diagnosed with transsexuality.</quote> LMAO Can someone explain me why a 5 year old can't drink a beer, a glass of wine, or smoke a cigarette, but apparently the kid HAS to undergo hormonal treaments that will have far more significant and long lasting effects than a single bud light bottle? I'm all for trans right. But wait until you're old enough to buy a beer before you do things to your body you may or may not fully understand or change your mind about at an age where you still believe in Santa or can't vote</quote> no one?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 10/07/19 9:19:20 AM #107:	If it's finally an admitted physical disorder, sounds like researchers should be looking for a cure. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:928449363] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>If it's finally an admitted physical disorder, sounds like researchers should be looking for a cure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 10/07/19 9:59:47 AM #108:	The Admiral posted... If it's finally an admitted physical disorder, sounds like researchers should be looking for a cure. We have treatments now or GCS and HRT. But yes, ideally getting an appropriate body entirely would be the ideal outcome. Lab grown or whatever. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:928450515] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>If it's finally an admitted physical disorder, sounds like researchers should be looking for a cure.</quote> We have treatments now or GCS and HRT. But yes, ideally getting an appropriate body entirely would be the ideal outcome. Lab grown or whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/07/19 10:04:14 AM #109:	Sirfetchd posted... You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child Well yeah Are you arguing that if a mom wants to RIP her son's legs off she should be allowed to? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928450640] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child</quote> Well yeah Are you arguing that if a mom wants to RIP her son's legs off she should be allowed to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Cipher- 10/07/19 10:05:16 AM #110:	People are defending this. Lmfao. <cite>-Cipher- posted [p:928450672] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>People are defending this. Lmfao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 10/07/19 10:07:48 AM #111:	This is awful. Children should not be able to use hormone blockers. This could lead to further abuse and suicides. --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:928450758] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>This is awful. Children should not be able to use hormone blockers. This could lead to further abuse and suicides. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sirfetchd 10/07/19 12:35:07 PM #112:	UnfairRepresent posted... Sirfetchd posted... You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child Well yeah Are you arguing that if a mom wants to RIP her son's legs off she should be allowed to? That's really your defense --- https://i.imgtc.ws/hhtqdsi.png <cite>Sirfetchd posted [p:928455811] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child</quote> Well yeah Are you arguing that if a mom wants to RIP her son's legs off she should be allowed to?</quote> That's really your defense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/07/19 1:10:13 PM #113:	Sirfetchd posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Sirfetchd posted... You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child Well yeah Are you arguing that if a mom wants to RIP her son's legs off she should be allowed to? That's really your defense wut? Defense of what? I asked you a question and you ducked it. Parents don't get to do whatever they want to their kids. Society steps in all the time. You're not allowed to decide what's best --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928457155] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child</quote> Well yeah Are you arguing that if a mom wants to RIP her son's legs off she should be allowed to?</quote> That's really your defense</quote> wut? Defense of what? I asked you a question and you ducked it. Parents don't get to do whatever they want to their kids. Society steps in all the time. You're not allowed to decide what's best</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sirfetchd 10/07/19 1:11:18 PM #114:	UnfairRepresent posted... Sirfetchd posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Sirfetchd posted... You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child Well yeah Are you arguing that if a mom wants to RIP her son's legs off she should be allowed to? That's really your defense wut? Defense of what? I asked you a question and you ducked it. Parents don't get to do whatever they want to their kids. Society steps in all the time. You're not allowed to decide what's best I'm allowed to decide in james stays james --- https://i.imgtc.ws/hhtqdsi.png <cite>Sirfetchd posted [p:928457201] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child</quote> Well yeah Are you arguing that if a mom wants to RIP her son's legs off she should be allowed to?</quote> That's really your defense</quote> wut? Defense of what? I asked you a question and you ducked it. Parents don't get to do whatever they want to their kids. Society steps in all the time. You're not allowed to decide what's best</quote> I'm allowed to decide in james stays james</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El_Dustino 10/07/19 1:30:12 PM #115:	If James is clearly unhappy being James why would you force them to stay james? --- The two most beautiful words in any language: I forgive. AC:NL Dream Address: 5700-3355-4304 <cite>El_Dustino posted [p:928457899] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>If James is clearly unhappy being James why would you force them to stay james?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sevihaimerej 10/07/19 1:50:48 PM #117:	Wait...being trans is now considered a physical illness rather than a mental one? Is it because the body is easier to transition than the mind? Or is it to allow trans rights that those with other mental illnesses have revoked (military service, gun ownership, etc)? Not really implying I think that's an incorrect classification of the condition just that I currently don't understand the perspective of it being a physical malady rather than mental... --- https://imgtc.com/Y8ojZ3x <cite>sevihaimerej posted [p:928458677] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Wait...being trans is now considered a physical illness rather than a mental one? Is it because the body is easier to transition than the mind? Or is it to allow trans rights that those with other mental illnesses have revoked (military service, gun ownership, etc)? Not really implying I think that's an incorrect classification of the condition just that I currently don't understand the perspective of it being a physical malady rather than mental... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/07/19 2:07:52 PM #118:	Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this. --- #TrainwreckTrump #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928459334] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 2:13:33 PM #119:	Machete posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this. I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though... --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928459605] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this.</quote> I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/07/19 2:32:39 PM #120:	karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this. I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though... "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone" --- #TrainwreckTrump #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928460396] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this.</quote> I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though...</quote> "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 10/07/19 2:33:07 PM #121:	Clown world --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:928460417] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Clown world </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 2:37:40 PM #122:	Machete posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this. I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though... "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone" Nice ad hominem. Anything else? --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928460623] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this.</quote> I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though...</quote> "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone"</quote> Nice ad hominem. Anything else?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/07/19 2:59:26 PM #123:	karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this. I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though... "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone" Nice ad hominem. Anything else? More ad hominem. You don't like ad hominem, so ad hominem is exactly what you get. No one should ever, under any circumstances engage you in good faith discussion. --- #DetestableDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928461540] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this.</quote> I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though...</quote> "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone"</quote> Nice ad hominem. Anything else?</quote> More ad hominem. You don't like ad hominem, so ad hominem is exactly what you get. No one should ever, under any circumstances engage you in good faith discussion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 3:03:36 PM #124:	Machete posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this. I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though... "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone" Nice ad hominem. Anything else? More ad hominem. You don't like ad hominem, so ad hominem is exactly what you get. No one should ever, under any circumstances engage you in good faith discussion. Says the guy who can't do anything other than use logical fallacies to engage people. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928461702] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this.</quote> I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though...</quote> "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone"</quote> Nice ad hominem. Anything else?</quote> More ad hominem. You don't like ad hominem, so ad hominem is exactly what you get. No one should ever, under any circumstances engage you in good faith discussion.</quote> Says the guy who can't do anything other than use logical fallacies to engage people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 10/07/19 3:06:40 PM #126:	Good. Parents should be held responsible for their failure to parent. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:928461822] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Good. Parents should be held responsible for their failure to parent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 10/07/19 3:08:05 PM #127:	Imagine mourning the lose of your dead child then some random ass cop shows up out of now all like, "You're coming with me". --- Knowledge is having the right answer. Intelligence is asking the right question <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:928461875] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Imagine mourning the lose of your dead child then some random ass cop shows up out of now all like, "You're coming with me".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 10/07/19 3:18:50 PM #128:	https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/health/sex-hormones-for-gender-transitioning-hike-risk-of-stroke-heart-attacks-study-finds/amp Id be concerned about this if I was a parent in this situation. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:928462284] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/health/sex-hormones-for-gender-transitioning-hike-risk-of-stroke-heart-attacks-study-finds/amp Id be concerned about this if I was a parent in this situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 10/07/19 3:20:31 PM #129:	SwayM posted... https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/health/sex-hormones-for-gender-transitioning-hike-risk-of-stroke-heart-attacks-study-finds/amp Id be concerned about this if I was a parent in this situation. Id be especially concerned for FtM people Taking steroids indefinitely and from the age of 5 is a terrible terrible idea Even adult men get oversized internal organs and their heart exploding from this shit --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:928462355] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/health/sex-hormones-for-gender-transitioning-hike-risk-of-stroke-heart-attacks-study-finds/amp Id be concerned about this if I was a parent in this situation.</quote> Id be especially concerned for FtM people Taking steroids indefinitely and from the age of 5 is a terrible terrible idea Even adult men get oversized internal organs and their heart exploding from this shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 3:26:05 PM #130:	GoodOlJr posted... SwayM posted... https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/health/sex-hormones-for-gender-transitioning-hike-risk-of-stroke-heart-attacks-study-finds/amp Id be concerned about this if I was a parent in this situation. Id be especially concerned for FtM people Taking steroids indefinitely and from the age of 5 is a terrible terrible idea Even adult men get oversized internal organs and their heart exploding from this shit But apparently its ok to force children to take it, regardless of the parents wishes. I'll quote this one more time. Three separate groups of physicians have recently written to leading medical journals questioning hormonal treatment of children and adolescents with gender dysphoria in countries such as the United States, Canada, Australia, and certain European countries. They are extremely concerned that current practice is outpacing the science, citing a lack of robust clinical trial evidence to support existing recommendations from groups such as the Endocrine Society, American Academy of Pediatrics, and Royal Children's Hospital Melbourne, which all support "gender affirmation." Some healthcare professionals are thus becoming increasingly uncomfortable with how clinical practice in this field is evolving, arguing that it is proceeding without full consideration of potential harms and in the absence of any long-term evidence of benefit. In effect, they contend that some children are being used as guinea pigs in the rush to embrace early medical treatment of many youths with gender dysphoria. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/909129 Not my opinion, MEDICAL DOCTORS who specialize in this are saying it. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928462607] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/health/sex-hormones-for-gender-transitioning-hike-risk-of-stroke-heart-attacks-study-finds/amp Id be concerned about this if I was a parent in this situation.</quote> Id be especially concerned for FtM people Taking steroids indefinitely and from the age of 5 is a terrible terrible idea Even adult men get oversized internal organs and their heart exploding from this shit </quote> But apparently its ok to force children to take it, regardless of the parents wishes. I'll quote this one more time. <quote>Three separate groups of physicians have recently written to leading medical journals questioning hormonal treatment of children and adolescents with gender dysphoria in countries such as the United States, Canada, Australia, and certain European countries. They are extremely concerned that current practice is outpacing the science, citing a lack of robust clinical trial evidence to support existing recommendations from groups such as the Endocrine Society, American Academy of Pediatrics, and Royal Children's Hospital Melbourne, which all support "gender affirmation." Some healthcare professionals are thus becoming increasingly uncomfortable with how clinical practice in this field is evolving, arguing that it is proceeding without full consideration of potential harms and in the absence of any long-term evidence of benefit. In effect, they contend that some children are being used as guinea pigs in the rush to embrace early medical treatment of many youths with gender dysphoria.</quote> https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/909129 Not my opinion, MEDICAL DOCTORS who specialize in this are saying it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 10/07/19 3:32:06 PM #131:	karlpilkington4 posted... Not my opinion, MEDICAL DOCTORS who specialize in this are saying it. Is there any point in arguing? Whose going to be converted? Castrating your kid should obviously be the wrong choice --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:928462853] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted... </cite> <quote>Not my opinion, MEDICAL DOCTORS who specialize in this are saying it.</quote> Is there any point in arguing? Whose going to be converted? Castrating your kid should obviously be the wrong choice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 10/07/19 3:34:01 PM #132:	Good. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:928462927] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 3:37:58 PM #133:	GoodOlJr posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Not my opinion, MEDICAL DOCTORS who specialize in this are saying it. Is there any point in arguing? Whose going to be converted? Castrating your kid should obviously be the wrong choice If you post enough logic, trolls cant penetrate through, as hard as they will try. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928463102] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted... </cite> <quote>Not my opinion, MEDICAL DOCTORS who specialize in this are saying it.</quote> Is there any point in arguing? Whose going to be converted? Castrating your kid should obviously be the wrong choice </quote> If you post enough logic, trolls cant penetrate through, as hard as they will try.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/07/19 4:00:25 PM #134:	karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this. I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though... "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone" Nice ad hominem. Anything else? More ad hominem. You don't like ad hominem, so ad hominem is exactly what you get. No one should ever, under any circumstances engage you in good faith discussion. Says the guy who can't do anything other than use logical fallacies to engage people. I have different tactics for different people. Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. It's annoying, and formal debate is not something I would ever have any interest in. If you want good faith discussion, you have to have any sort of attitude that I can actually find cause to respect. --- #TroublesomeTrump #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928463997] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> This seems like common sense to me but I would wager that Karl and tc have already said more inaccurate bullshit to try and deny it, by the time I post this.</quote> I still have not said much of anything besides posting articles by doctors. I guess you know more than professional health care workers though...</quote> "I'm karl and I think I'm fooling anyone"</quote> Nice ad hominem. Anything else?</quote> More ad hominem. You don't like ad hominem, so ad hominem is exactly what you get. No one should ever, under any circumstances engage you in good faith discussion.</quote> Says the guy who can't do anything other than use logical fallacies to engage people.</quote> I have different tactics for different people. Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. It's annoying, and formal debate is not something I would ever have any interest in. If you want good faith discussion, you have to have any sort of attitude that I can actually find cause to respect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 4:03:10 PM #135:	Machete posted... Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. Yea, god forbid someone calls you out on your BS. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928464110] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote> Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. </quote> Yea, god forbid someone calls you out on your BS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/07/19 4:04:41 PM #136:	karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. Yea, god forbid someone calls you out on your BS. I've done nothing to call out shrug emoji --- #DiddlerDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928464161] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote> Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. </quote> Yea, god forbid someone calls you out on your BS.</quote> I've done nothing to call out shrug emoji</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 4:14:08 PM #137:	Machete posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. Yea, god forbid someone calls you out on your BS. I've done nothing to call out shrug emoji looks back at your last 15 posts of insults and character assassinations Right.... Anyways this was fun, back to topic. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928464513] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote> Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. </quote> Yea, god forbid someone calls you out on your BS.</quote> I've done nothing to call out shrug emoji</quote> looks back at your last 15 posts of insults and character assassinations Right.... Anyways this was fun, back to topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/07/19 4:26:32 PM #138:	karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Machete posted... Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. Yea, god forbid someone calls you out on your BS. I've done nothing to call out shrug emoji looks back at your last 15 posts of insults and character assassinations Right.... Anyways this was fun, back to topic. No, I was just calling you out on your BS --- #DisgustingDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928465040] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote> Anyone who throws around formal debate terms like "ad hominem" and "logical fallcies" gets the opposite sort of rhetoric from me because I don't like when people do that. </quote> Yea, god forbid someone calls you out on your BS.</quote> I've done nothing to call out shrug emoji</quote> looks back at your last 15 posts of insults and character assassinations Right.... Anyways this was fun, back to topic.</quote> No, I was just calling you out on your BS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 10/07/19 4:34:15 PM #139:	karlpilkington4 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. You dont say... Then why do you keep pushing your anti-trans bullshit and shut the fuck up. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:928465402] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> You dont say...</quote> Then why do you keep pushing your anti-trans bullshit and shut the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 10/07/19 4:43:18 PM #140:	I hope this doesnt pass. Refusing to subject your child to hormone treatments ia tatanmount to withholding life saving treatment now?? We are all doomed. And who may i ask is going to pay for all this? As if all parents have exta income for hormone pills. Are the libs gonna step up and help out? --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:928465771] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>I hope this doesnt pass. Refusing to subject your child to hormone treatments ia tatanmount to withholding life saving treatment now?? We are all doomed. And who may i ask is going to pay for all this? As if all parents have exta income for hormone pills. Are the libs gonna step up and help out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoodOlJr 10/07/19 4:49:16 PM #142:	fenderbender321 posted... First Michelle Carter, now this. I'd say in about 10 years, the courts will find somebody to punish for literally every suicide. Nothing better than having people who are having a hard time with life, adding the pressure of arresting their family if they suicide Im sure this will help with isssues --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:928466011] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted... </cite> <quote>First Michelle Carter, now this. I'd say in about 10 years, the courts will find somebody to punish for literally every suicide.</quote> Nothing better than having people who are having a hard time with life, adding the pressure of arresting their family if they suicide Im sure this will help with isssues </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 4:51:47 PM #143:	sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. You dont say... Then why do you keep pushing your anti-trans bullshit and shut the fuck up. I have not done that at all. Your blind anger is making you see things that are not there. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928466105] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> You dont say...</quote> Then why do you keep pushing your anti-trans bullshit and shut the fuck up.</quote> I have not done that at all. Your blind anger is making you see things that are not there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AwesomeToTheMAX 10/07/19 4:57:55 PM #144:	GoodOlJr posted... [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Nothing better than having people who are having a hard time with life, adding the pressure of arresting their family if they suicide Im sure this will help with isssues If you bothered to read anything other than the topic title, you would know that this addressees borderline child negligence. These goofy scenarios you thought up in your head aren't prone to happening --- "shut the f*** up. There's no such thing as a "sniper rifle"." - tamagucci <cite>AwesomeToTheMAX posted [p:928466350] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Nothing better than having people who are having a hard time with life, adding the pressure of arresting their family if they suicide Im sure this will help with isssues </quote> If you bothered to read anything other than the topic title, you would know that this addressees borderline child negligence. These goofy scenarios you thought up in your head aren't prone to happening</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 10/07/19 5:13:46 PM #145:	karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. You dont say... Then why do you keep pushing your anti-trans bullshit and shut the fuck up. I have not done that at all. Your blind anger is making you see things that are not there. Would you like to tell us about your views about trans people? --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:928466985] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The suicide rate of transpeople appears to be related more strongly to social acceptance rather than access to treatment. </quote> You dont say...</quote> Then why do you keep pushing your anti-trans bullshit and shut the fuck up.</quote> I have not done that at all. Your blind anger is making you see things that are not there.</quote> Would you like to tell us about your views about trans people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 10/07/19 5:14:02 PM #146:	AwesomeToTheMAX posted... GoodOlJr posted... [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Nothing better than having people who are having a hard time with life, adding the pressure of arresting their family if they suicide Im sure this will help with isssues If you bothered to read anything other than the topic title, you would know that this addressees borderline child negligence And it does this how? --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:928466998] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>AwesomeToTheMAX posted...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Nothing better than having people who are having a hard time with life, adding the pressure of arresting their family if they suicide Im sure this will help with isssues </quote> If you bothered to read anything other than the topic title, you would know that this addressees borderline child negligence</quote> And it does this how?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 10/08/19 5:35:45 AM #147:	SwayM posted... https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/health/sex-hormones-for-gender-transitioning-hike-risk-of-stroke-heart-attacks-study-finds/amp Id be concerned about this if I was a parent in this situation. Keep in mind, hormones are very commonly prescribed to people suffering from certain forms of cancer as well as elderly people as it eases certain bodily functions. That Dutch study didn't just include transgender people, it included those sick people. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:928490467] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/health/sex-hormones-for-gender-transitioning-hike-risk-of-stroke-heart-attacks-study-finds/amp Id be concerned about this if I was a parent in this situation.</quote> Keep in mind, hormones are very commonly prescribed to people suffering from certain forms of cancer as well as elderly people as it eases certain bodily functions. That Dutch study didn't just include transgender people, it included those sick people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 10/08/19 5:41:18 AM #148:	StealthRock posted... I hope this doesnt pass. Refusing to subject your child to hormone treatments ia tatanmount to withholding life saving treatment now?? We are all doomed. And who may i ask is going to pay for all this? As if all parents have exta income for hormone pills. Are the libs gonna step up and help out? "If my kid is physically disabled and I don't get them the resources and care they need and they end up harmed as a result of my neglect, what do you mean I'll get in trouble?" --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:928490549] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>I hope this doesnt pass. Refusing to subject your child to hormone treatments ia tatanmount to withholding life saving treatment now?? We are all doomed. And who may i ask is going to pay for all this? As if all parents have exta income for hormone pills. Are the libs gonna step up and help out?</quote> "If my kid is physically disabled and I don't get them the resources and care they need and they end up harmed as a result of my neglect, what do you mean I'll get in trouble?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 10/08/19 6:00:22 AM #149:	honk honk --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:928490819] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>honk honk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TwoDoorPunkCab 10/08/19 6:07:19 AM #150:	Sirfetchd posted... You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child this is how anti vaxxers feel, fyi --- Tell me your favourite things. Tell me your favourite things. <cite>TwoDoorPunkCab posted [p:928490937] in Parents ca... [t:78068469]...</cite> <quote>Sirfetchd posted...</cite> <quote>You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child</quote> this is how anti vaxxers feel, fyi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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