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Umbreon 10/02/19 5:58:59 PM #102: |
"Antifa are "human scum" but let's try to humanize Nazis and white supremacists."
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Philosopher_X 10/02/19 5:59:10 PM #103: |
nemu posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...it's disingenuous to NOT label them murderers when their ideology calls for it.OK, then what of the Muslims who support the deaths of gays, trans, apostates, etc? Do you think instead of trying to sway their opinions that we need to assume they're completely iimmalleable to change? Treat the Muslims like the Christians. --- Don't over complicate the obvious. Don't oversimplify the intricate. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 10/02/19 6:01:30 PM #104: |
I accept that you're simply shit posting and have nothing to actually offer but Nazi support.
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nemu 10/02/19 6:04:06 PM #105: |
Umbreon posted...
"Antifa are "human scum" but let's try to humanize Nazis and white supremacists."Yes, the antifa member who bashed that guy in the head is human scum. The "but they haven't murdered anyone" argument being brought up generally seems to be used as a way to downplay the bad actions of antifa. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 10/02/19 6:09:49 PM #106: |
Well it would be disingenuous to compare all of Antifa to that guy, wouldn't it? Especially since their ideology isn't about that.
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Villain 10/02/19 6:11:04 PM #107: |
nemu posted...
Villain posted...How many people have Antifa killed again?Does the fact that they protest against other human scum give them free reign to bash people's heads? Maybe when you finish high school you'll know what a false equivalency is --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 10/02/19 6:12:28 PM #108: |
Of course not
I'm against censorship, and the people that are for it only want to censor certain people. It's bull shit and you're a terrible person if you think it's okay to do so --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 10/02/19 6:18:40 PM #109: |
Umbreon posted...
Well it would be disingenuous to compare all of Antifa to that guy, wouldn't it? Especially since their ideology isn't about that.Yes, as I said in my original post, it's not like they're a cohesive group, but masked "vigilantism" that leads to such people being empowered to do things like that due to a lack of accountability and feeling of social encouragement is a common theme in their gatherings. As I'd support the labelling of terrorist being applied of any white supremacist group that provokes/uses violence, the masked gatherings of antifa should also be condemned. It might just be me, but it feels like a lot of antifa supporters go with the "it's OK to break a few skulls" ideology. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 10/02/19 6:56:05 PM #110: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
Of course not I'll gladly accept your goofy criteria for what makes a person "terrible" if I can keep shutting down people advocating for pedophilia, ethnic-based social hierarchies, and everything else morally reprehensible. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 10/02/19 6:59:34 PM #111: |
i don't think it should be moddable
clear and present danger doctrine y'all --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 10/02/19 7:12:14 PM #112: |
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2017:
Heather Heyer http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-heather-heyer-profile/index.html Taliesin Namkai Meche http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/max_stabbing_victim_attended_r_1.html#incart_big-photo Ricky Best http://taskandpurpose.com/ricky-best-one-2-men-killed-portland-stabbing-army-veteran/ Richard Collins III https://www.thenation.com/article/lynching-university-maryland-campus/ Timothy Caughman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Timothy_Caughman Srinivas Kuchibhotla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe,_Kansas_shooting Casey Marquez & Francisco Fernandez https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-mexico-school-shooter-had-secret-life-on-pro-trump-white-supremacy-sites Charles Davis https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/alt-righter-seattle4truth-charged-killing-father-over-conspiracy-theories Officer Zackari Parrish http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/us/colorado-shooting-suspect-military-record/index.html Buckley Kuhn-Fricker & Scott Fricker https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/teen-charged-with-killing-girlfriends-parents-they-had-worried-he-was-a-neo-nazi/2017/12/23/e2102894-e761-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.32ba34f2ae29 The 6 Victims of the Quebec City mosque shooting: Ibrahima Barry, Mamadou Tanou Barry, Khaled Belkacemi, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, and Azzedine Soufiane https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting Murder Victims of Antifa in 2017: --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 10/02/19 7:12:17 PM #113: |
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2018:
Blaze Bernstein https://www.haaretz.com/blaze-bernstein-murder-suspect-displayed-hate-on-social-media-1.5751372 The 17 Victims of the Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting: Alyssa Alhadeff, Scott Beigel, Martin Duque, Nicholas Dworet, Aaron Feis, Jaime Guttenberg, Chris Hixon, Luke Hoyer, Cara Loughran, Gina Montalto, Joaquin Oliver, Alaina Petty, Meadow Pollack, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Carmen Schentrup, and Peter Wang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting: Jared Conard Black, Shana Fisher, Christian Riley Garcia, Aaron Kyle McLeod, Glenda Anne Perkins, Angelique Ramirez, Sabika Sheikh, Christopher Stone, Cynthia Tisdale, and Kimberly Vaughan https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/18/612286146/shooting-reported-at-high-school-near-houston The 10 Victims of the Toronto Van Attack Beutis Renuka Amarasinghe, Andrea Bradden, Geraldine Brady, So He Chung, Anne Marie D'Amico Mary Elizabeth Forsyth, Chul Min "Eddie" Kang, Ji Hun Kim, Munir Najjar, and Dorothy Sewell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_van_attack Sherell L. Lewis Jr https://nypost.com/2018/05/31/motorist-brags-about-running-over-some-n-r-on-snapchat/ Jeremy Himmelman & Andrew Oneschuck https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/suspect-in-tampa-neo-nazi-killings-returns-from-state-mental-hospital-20190326/ The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting: Gerald Fischman, Rob Hiaasen, John McNamara, Rebecca Smith, and Wendi Winters https://bluestatedaily.com/accused-annapolis-shooter-jarrod-ramos-was-inspired-by-the-alt-right-report/ Maurice Stallard & Vickie Lee Jones https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-kroger-gunman-uttered-whites-don-t-kill-whites-witness-n924641 The 11 victims of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting: Joyce Fienberg, Rich Gottfried, Rose Mallinger, Jerry Rabinowitz, Cecil Rosenthal, David Rosenthal, Bernice Simon, Sylvan Simon, Daniel Stein, Melvin Wax, & Irving Younger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting Dr. Nancy Van Vessem & Maura Binkley https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/us/yoga-studio-shooting-florida.html Murder Victims of Antifa in 2018: Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2019: James Wolfe https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-seattle-man-thought-brother-lizard-killed-him-20190109-story.html The 5 Victimes of the Sebring Fl Bank Shooting: Cynthia Watson, Marisol Lopez, Jessica Montague, Debra Cook and Ana Pinon-Williams https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/zephen-xaver/ The 50 Victims of the Christchurch mosque shootings: The ages of those killed ranged from 2 to 71 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings Sydney Aiello https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parkland-shooting-survivor-sydney-aiello-takes-her-own-life/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=65145580 Walter Lbcke https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/26/far-right-suspect-confesses-to-killing-german-politician-walter-lubcke Stephen Romero, Keyla Salazar, and Trevor Deon Irby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilroy_Garlic_Festival_shooting The 22 victims of the El Paso Shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting Murder Victims of Antifa in 2019: --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/02/19 7:13:04 PM #114: |
How can the concept of being against a concept be moddable?
How can an idea as nebululous as "anti-fascism" be a hate group? It isn't even a group! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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amzpeng 10/02/19 7:14:21 PM #115: |
Villain posted...
James Wolfe NOOO!!! not the Angry Videogame Nerd! --- Do equals 11 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 10/02/19 7:19:50 PM #116: |
Villain posted...
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2018: Murder Victims of Antifa in 2019: Is your purpose to show that they're objectively worse, or to try to justify shitty things antifa does? I can certainly agree they are objectively worse to society than antifa, but it doesn't make the shitty things people do under the guise of antifa justified. Both groups can be shitty, even if they're not equally shitty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/02/19 7:20:57 PM #117: |
nemu posted...
Villain posted...Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2018:Murder Victims of Antifa in 2019: People do shitty things under the guise of a lot of ideas. Does that make all ideas bad on principle? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 10/02/19 7:25:08 PM #118: |
nemu posted...
Is your purpose to show that they're objectively worse, or to try to justify shitty things antifa does? I can certainly agree they are objectively worse to society than antifa, but it doesn't make the shitty things people do under the guise of antifa justified. Both groups can be shitty, even if they're not equally shitty. Objectively worse. Antifa is like a drizzle compared to the alt right's hurricane. --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 10/02/19 7:25:35 PM #119: |
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
I'll gladly accept your goofy criteria for what makes a person "terrible" if I can keep shutting down people advocating for pedophilia, ethnic-based social hierarchies, and everything else morally reprehensible. Having sex with a minor is against the law. I dont think someone trying to tell someone why it should be allowed should be. I disagree with this thought, but an argument could be made since 15 year old girls do in fact like older men and some of them are not being taken advantage of. Some with young boys. Are you saying you would have been molested by someone you were attracted to had sex with you. This is mostly about this cancel culture BS. No one has been able to answer my question about why its okay and justice to go after a joke someone made years ago, but those same people will not go after rappers that made horrible, sexist and homophobic lyrics. I dont what anyone to be censored. If you have a shit opinion, I want to know so I dont hang out with you --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 10/02/19 7:27:03 PM #120: |
amzpeng posted...
Villain posted...James Wolfe I legit thought this too when I first saw it. That's James Rolfe. Not that it makes Wolfe's death any less wrong. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 10/02/19 7:31:42 PM #121: |
hockeybub89 posted...
People do shitty things under the guise of a lot of ideas. Does that make all ideas bad on principle?No, antifa is not an inherently negative force. I think the idea of fighting against a concept is a bit silly, but it can be positively accomplished through lawful actions. The issue is that being masked is a very common trend in these gatherings and there is a very common ideal that might equals right, so the two mix into a very unhealthy outcome. That's certainly not all of them, and it's not so common as to need to outlaw the concept of antifa. The support of their violence should certainly be looked down upon, and the mass gathering of individuals in a public space should be outlawed. That goes the same with people in klan hoods as well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 10/02/19 8:01:11 PM #122: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...I'll gladly accept your goofy criteria for what makes a person "terrible" if I can keep shutting down people advocating for pedophilia, ethnic-based social hierarchies, and everything else morally reprehensible. if you're going to ask questions about things nobody is even arguing for, why would you expect somebody to respond to it? you're just chiming in with random shit and trying to pass it off as something deep. cancel culture isn't real, rappers have had politicians attacking them for political gain, etc... you're just disingenuously spouting claims and pretending like there's from profound substance behind them --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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