Current Events > Gearbox is nerfing BL3 into the goddamn dirt

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butthole666
09/27/19 3:12:35 PM
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Not sure if I can link to another board w/o getting a ridiculous mod but its on the front page of the ps4 bl3 board

Instead of bringing things up to par with the only viable builds, theyre using the garbage builds as the baseline and nerfing things down. In a PvE game.
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MegaTech
09/27/19 3:18:09 PM
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Is that fade away skill getting hit? I used that to beat the game and it was strong af
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butthole666
09/27/19 3:20:35 PM
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MegaTech posted...
Is that fade away skill getting hit? I used that to beat the game and it was strong af

Guerillas in the mist knocked to 25% crit bonus AND reduced to 6 seconds

Flat 15% damage nerf on jakobs revolvers

Torgue stickies already got killed
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DarthAragorn
09/27/19 3:22:06 PM
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Gearbox is trash so duh
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butthole666
09/27/19 3:23:52 PM
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Like instead of making more guns and builds good theyre just making all of them mediocre and unsatisfying lol
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s0nicfan
09/27/19 3:24:35 PM
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I miss old gearbox that openly proclaimed that they had no interest in balancing things, they just wanted to let people do crazy cool goofy combat and have fun.

I'm also annoyed that we're two patches in, and precisely none of the serious performance issues have been resolved, nor any of the glaring couch co-op problems, but instead they keep nerfing the drop rates which is the whole goddamn point of the game.
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butthole666
09/27/19 3:25:23 PM
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Hot take the drop rates are prob them priming for mtx
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Alpha218
09/27/19 3:25:50 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I miss old gearbox that openly proclaimed that they had no interest in balancing things, they just wanted to let people do crazy cool goofy combat and have fun.

I'm also annoyed that we're two patches in, and precisely none of the serious performance issues have been resolved, nor any of the glaring couch co-op problems, but instead they keep nerfing the drop rates which is the whole goddamn point of the game.
Theyre punishing the people that are waiting for the game to go on sale on Steam lol

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butthole666
09/27/19 3:26:18 PM
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Also i bought a game, got into a groove and started loving it, and now after my return window it is being fundamentally changed for the worse

Very sick love it
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Error1355
09/27/19 3:26:26 PM
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...What is there to balance? It's not a competitive game. Just let people have fucking fun.
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butthole666
09/27/19 3:28:32 PM
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Error1355 posted...
...What is there to balance? It's not a competitive game. Just let people have fucking fun.

This is what literally their entire playerbase is saying lol

When did this shift happen where companies do the exact opposite of what their audience is clamoring for?
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Lost_All_Senses
09/27/19 3:33:37 PM
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Damn. Now I definitely don't care to get it. It was bad enough your highest option was Normal for initial playthroughs. Companies should understand difficulty can completely shape a persons experience. Give people Souls easy mode if I get a hard mode on every game as well.
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Lairen
09/27/19 3:35:28 PM
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The nerfs are numerous but the buffs are few. This is what i always complain about.

The things that suck are working as intended but those good things were only suppose to be ok.
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butthole666
09/27/19 3:43:23 PM
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Its gonna be TPS all over again
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Lairen
09/27/19 3:45:23 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Its gonna be TPS all over again


In what way? (I like TPS)
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refmon
09/27/19 3:45:48 PM
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Nerfs make it so you dont feel as bad when playing weaker builds
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Pukelid
09/27/19 3:46:48 PM
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buying borderlands and expecting a good game

hyuck
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Lairen
09/27/19 3:47:29 PM
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refmon posted...
Nerfs make it so you dont feel as bad when playing weaker builds


Or, i dont know....maybe...

Buff the weaker builds!!!!!

Just how i feel....
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Smashingpmkns
09/27/19 3:48:24 PM
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I just want them to fix the fucking lag from the menus in splitscreen and I'll be happy
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yillin
09/27/19 3:48:40 PM
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never understood nerfing a single player game. So bizarre when companies do that.

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butthole666
09/27/19 3:48:57 PM
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Lairen posted...
butthole666 posted...
Its gonna be TPS all over again


In what way? (I like TPS)

They nerf the game too heavily instead of bringing things to par, and people drop the game for BL2
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LightHawKnight
09/27/19 3:49:22 PM
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Lairen posted...
refmon posted...
Nerfs make it so you dont feel as bad when playing weaker builds


Or, i dont know....maybe...

Buff the weaker builds!!!!!

Just how i feel....


Why do something that will take more effort?
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MegaTech
09/27/19 3:49:53 PM
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butthole666 posted...
MegaTech posted...
Is that fade away skill getting hit? I used that to beat the game and it was strong af

Guerillas in the mist knocked to 25% crit bonus AND reduced to 6 seconds

Flat 15% damage nerf on jakobs revolvers

Torgue stickies already got killed

Damn, look what they've done to my boy
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Lairen
09/27/19 3:50:32 PM
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yillin posted...
never understood nerfing a single player game. So bizarre when companies do that.


I only understand bug fixes. If an ability was literally not working right and gave good or bad effects from it, i understand fixing it and making it work as intended.

Not just weakening shit.
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Lairen
09/27/19 3:51:52 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Lairen posted...
refmon posted...
Nerfs make it so you dont feel as bad when playing weaker builds


Or, i dont know....maybe...

Buff the weaker builds!!!!!

Just how i feel....


Why do something that will take more effort?


I dont understand just upping statistics of weaker shit instead of lowering those of strong shit.

Thats what they did....
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Touch
09/27/19 4:02:56 PM
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Yes. Let's just ignore that the hotfix today was 70% buffs just because there were some nerfs. Nice telling the whole story tho

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butthole666
09/27/19 4:05:06 PM
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The buffs are marginal bumps up, while the nerfs are massive slashes that kill items
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Touch
09/27/19 4:06:56 PM
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butthole666 posted...
The buffs are marginal bumps up, while the nerfs are massive slashes that kill items
All the buffs were 15-25% and so were the nerfs. Except the patch is 70% buffs like I said. Nice narrative tho

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LightHawKnight
09/27/19 4:07:30 PM
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Lairen posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Lairen posted...
refmon posted...
Nerfs make it so you dont feel as bad when playing weaker builds


Or, i dont know....maybe...

Buff the weaker builds!!!!!

Just how i feel....


Why do something that will take more effort?


I dont understand just upping statistics of weaker shit instead of lowering those of strong shit.

Thats what they did....


Again why do something that takes more work? Make all the weak options stronger, or weaken the few good ones?
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butthole666
09/27/19 4:09:58 PM
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-50% fire rate on 2 legendaries, halved action skill power AND reduced up time, torgue alt being made 10% as powerful as it was

They need to be buffing the shit that sucks to the point of the viable builds, not bringing everything down to this not-quite-fun plateau
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MonkeyBones23
09/27/19 4:10:46 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i read that no one likes Zane because all the other vault hunters can kill bosses at max level in seconds and he takes actual effort in order to do the same. i fully support nerfing everyone else if that's the case. why are you even playing the game if all you want to do is beat bosses as fast as you can with broken uberbuilds? where is the challenge in that?


End game grinding for gear is the entire purpose of Borderlands "end game." Killing bosses quickly is useful for that.
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SSJKirby
09/27/19 4:11:33 PM
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Buff up never nerf down

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butthole666
09/27/19 4:14:25 PM
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MonkeyBones23 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
i read that no one likes Zane because all the other vault hunters can kill bosses at max level in seconds and he takes actual effort in order to do the same. i fully support nerfing everyone else if that's the case. why are you even playing the game if all you want to do is beat bosses as fast as you can with broken uberbuilds? where is the challenge in that?


End game grinding for gear is the entire purpose of Borderlands "end game." Killing bosses quickly is useful for that.

esp because end game boss grinding was finally solo viable. I dont play co-op. I could never do raid bosses in 2 w/o cheesing them.
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Touch
09/27/19 4:14:46 PM
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butthole666 posted...
-50% fire rate on 2 legendaries, halved action skill power AND reduced up time, torgue alt being made 10% as powerful as it was

They need to be buffing the shit that sucks to the point of the viable builds, not bringing everything down to this not-quite-fun plateau
Yes. Those nerfs you just listed compared to:

Snipers:
Crit Dmg +20%
Fire Rate +15%
ADS Time -15%

Pistols:
Tediore/Dahl Dmg +15%
CoV Dmg +20%

Maliwan Weapons:
Dmg +25%
Fire Rate +20%

Atlas Weapons:
Dmg +25%

Misc:
Jakobs AR Dmg +20%
Dahl SMG Dmg +10%
Vladof Heavy Dmg +25%
E-tech Tediore Shotties Dmg +50%

Zane:
Clone Dmg +38%
Drone Dmg +50%
- Drone Rocket Dmg +50%
- Almighty Ordinance Rockets +75%

But no. They aren't buffing anything at all.

It's a damn shame that Flak will kill Graveward in 5 seconds compared to 2-3 before.

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MacadamianNut3
09/27/19 4:15:22 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Like instead of making more guns and builds good theyre just making all of them mediocre and unsatisfying lol

What is this, The Division 2???
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harley2280
09/27/19 6:22:07 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Hot take the drop rates are prob them priming for mtx

I don't think that state is very far off. They already have the perfect lootbox set ready with Golden Keys. Nerf regular drop rates, start offering key bundles. Boom.
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butthole666
09/27/19 6:25:28 PM
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like who asked for this lol
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ultimate reaver
09/27/19 6:26:31 PM
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anyone playing a slooter in 2019 deserves the bad game they get

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MJOLNRVII
09/27/19 6:31:51 PM
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I was having fun with the Pipe Bomb until they nerfed it. I've been playing FL4K since day 1 and was enjoying Fade Away. Torgue and Jakobs pistols are also getting nerfs which kills me. I would've rather they adjusted stuff like Zane and Iron Bear than nerfing everything else. This feels like a Destiny patch :/

The only nerf I really want is for them to remove the damage reflection modifier on Mayhem 3.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/27/19 6:40:29 PM
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I just want the lag drama gone...
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TheBiggerWiggle
09/27/19 7:12:05 PM
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Im kinda pissed about the sticky bombs. I was having a lot of fun with the sticky torque shotguns.

I guess them fixing split screen is a pipe dream at this point (vertical split, text size, and menu lag).
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MJOLNRVII
09/27/19 7:15:31 PM
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There was some split screen stuff earlier this week when they nerfed the pipe bomb, or maybe that hotfix was last week? I don't remember.
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Kantony_Bantano
09/27/19 7:20:36 PM
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Do companies not playtest their games anymore? Why do they need people to buy the game to realize they fucked up with balance?
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butthole666
09/27/19 9:23:04 PM
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The torgue guns getting slashed to 1/10 damage is awful
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viewmaster_pi
09/27/19 9:26:50 PM
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meanwhile fl4k's pets still glitch and freeze, and kill skills don't activate

better nerf guns

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Lairen
09/27/19 9:30:23 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
meanwhile fl4k's pets still glitch and freeze, and kill skills don't activate

better nerf guns


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