Current Events > I voted Trump but I'd be okay with him not having a second term

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Not cuz I think he did a bad job but just so this entire outrage culture the leftists and Democrats keep feeding can die.

I want Trump out so it's not someone having a mental breakdown over every interview or tweet Trump has.

I want Trump out so people can address issues without blaming everything on Trump. It's so absurd how people act like Trump invented bigotry and racism. They were here long before Trump and will be here long after.

Trump has become a scapegoat and a symbol for everything negative, to an extreme extent.

The whole "Trump derangement syndrome" thing is real and I find it bizarre and disturbing. People seem to foam at the mouth and lose their rational minds anytime he's brought up.

Grown ass adults.

Most aspects of day to day life have not gotten changed at all since Trump got office but the media works 24/7 to talk about him and exaggerate different things. I've never seen it this bad and the way people give the media so much power these days is downright disgusting.

If Trump leaving office means people will finally stop blaming him for every little shitty thing in their life or blaming him every time someone in the world acts like an asshole or a bigot then I'm okay with that.

I say give Yang his social experiment. If it works it works. If it crashes and burns maybe people will stop believing in socialist policies as long as we don't slide into a 2nd world dystopian nation after the system collapses.

I could MAYBE tolerate Warren.

I love Gabbard but she's far too honest and has too much integrity to get the mainstream media support she needs.

Sanders was a good candidate in 2016 but his time has come and gone.
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You seem to not think the President should be held at a higher standard than the common racist. Your voting makes sense when you consider that.
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XXmiznatorXX posted...

You voted Trump? So you admit you're a sexist, racist, homophobe, transphobe who hates all Muslims and immigrants?

Yes.

I'm a Nigerian-American and my family is Muslim but you're correct.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

You seem to not think the President should be held at a higher standard than the common racist. Your voting makes sense when you consider that.

I don't care about racism cuz every other person in American government is racist. I can't control if someone will like or dislike me cuz I'm black.

I've dealt with racism my entire life and I don't care about it.

People are free to dislike me for my skin. What they're not free to do is mistreat me for it.

If the bigotry stays outside of politics I'm cool.

If it was truly about "racism" 90% of all American politicians would be gone in the blink of an eye. Hillary Clinton's mentor was a fucking KKK wizard and you think an old white man from Arkansas wasn't racist?

Do you people HONESTLY believe that most of these old white Congresspeople aren't racist?!

Just don't bomb the shit out of people, don't violate my rights, don't crash the economy, and keep society running.

I don't give a fuck if you put on a mask of being some open minded humanitarian that doesn't see color.

The issue most people have with Trump is that he doesn't put on the mask that most other politicians do.

As long as these people go through the motions of pretending to be good people a lot of voters don't care what they do when it comes to policy. It's a joke.
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De Evolution posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

You seem to not think the President should be held at a higher standard than the common racist. Your voting makes sense when you consider that.

I don't care about racism cuz every other person in American government is racist. I can't control if someone will like or dislike me cuz I'm black.

I've dealt with racism my entire life and I don't care about it.

People are free to dislike me for my skin. What they're not free to do is mistreat me for it.

If the bigotry stays outside of politics I'm cool.

If it was truly about "racism" 90% of all American politicians would be gone in the blink of an eye. Hillary Clinton's mentor was a fucking KKK wizard and you think an old white man from Arkansas wasn't racist?

Do you people HONESTLY believe that most of these old white Congresspeople aren't racist?!

Just don't bomb the shit out of people, don't violate my rights, don't crash the economy, and keep society running.

I don't give a fuck if you put on a mask of being some open minded humanitarian that doesn't see color.

The issue most people have with Trump is that he doesn't put on the mask that most other politicians do.

As long as these people go through the motions of pretending to be good people a lot of voters don't care what they do when it comes to policy. It's a joke.

What are your thoughts on banning people from entering the US because they're Muslim?
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De Evolution posted...

I want Trump out

Excellent. Good for you :)
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metallica846 posted...

A KKK wizard?

Lol one of Hillary's mentors and the Clinton family's close friends is Robert Byrd. He was a fucking leader in the KKK.

OBAMA spoke at his funeral.

All these politicians are frauds and the uninformed actually think one side is better than the other.

https://www.newsweek.com/clinton-kkk-byrd-trump-652176
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CableZL posted...

De Evolution posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

You seem to not think the President should be held at a higher standard than the common racist. Your voting makes sense when you consider that.

I don't care about racism cuz every other person in American government is racist. I can't control if someone will like or dislike me cuz I'm black.

I've dealt with racism my entire life and I don't care about it.

People are free to dislike me for my skin. What they're not free to do is mistreat me for it.

If the bigotry stays outside of politics I'm cool.

If it was truly about "racism" 90% of all American politicians would be gone in the blink of an eye. Hillary Clinton's mentor was a fucking KKK wizard and you think an old white man from Arkansas wasn't racist?

Do you people HONESTLY believe that most of these old white Congresspeople aren't racist?!

Just don't bomb the shit out of people, don't violate my rights, don't crash the economy, and keep society running.

I don't give a fuck if you put on a mask of being some open minded humanitarian that doesn't see color.

The issue most people have with Trump is that he doesn't put on the mask that most other politicians do.

As long as these people go through the motions of pretending to be good people a lot of voters don't care what they do when it comes to policy. It's a joke.

What are your thoughts on banning people from entering the US because they're Muslim?

Wrong.

But he never did that.

He banned people temporarily from I believe 7 Muslim majority countries for security concerns.

I have an Arabic name and with Nigeria having so many issues with terrorism (remember the underwear bomber who almost took down a plane in 2012) I would obviously dislike if Nigeria was temporarily on a no-fly list.

But I wouldn't get emotional and irrational about it and automatically blame it on "bigotry" given the context of the situation. That would be childish and naive.

There's far more Muslim majority countries than the ones that were temporarily on the list and it wasn't a Muslim ban as a Christian from that country couldn't enter the United States and a Muslim from another country not on the list could enter the US.

So calling it a "Muslim ban" is just sensationalized news story telling to influence people such as yourself and control the narrative.
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This feels like digital blackface. If you are actually black, good job at trying to throw away the stuff all your ancestors did for you.
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De Evolution posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

This feels like digital blackface.

Nah there's LUEsers on here who have seen my face.

But of course being black, you smug fucks think you should dictate what black people think or believe.

When a black person goes against the liberal narrative or the line of thinking I'm supposed to remain in as a black person, then obviously it's an issue.

Don't be a POS. Would you ever dare speak like this to someone's face?

If I was in someone's face, Id have more to go off. Good job keeping out the part of my post where I stated I wasn't completely accusing you of it tho. It's a theory. Don't be so sensitive
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metallica846 posted...

If not a "Muslim ban" what would you call it?

Seems like a blatant ban of people from Muslim countries.

Did you read my fucking post? At least take the time to respond.

How can you even reply with this after what I just said?

By your logic the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan are a war on all Muslims worldwide.

Not even gonna respond again til you actually refute the points in my prior post.
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De Evolution posted...

CableZL posted...

De Evolution posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

You seem to not think the President should be held at a higher standard than the common racist. Your voting makes sense when you consider that.

I don't care about racism cuz every other person in American government is racist. I can't control if someone will like or dislike me cuz I'm black.

I've dealt with racism my entire life and I don't care about it.

People are free to dislike me for my skin. What they're not free to do is mistreat me for it.

If the bigotry stays outside of politics I'm cool.

If it was truly about "racism" 90% of all American politicians would be gone in the blink of an eye. Hillary Clinton's mentor was a fucking KKK wizard and you think an old white man from Arkansas wasn't racist?

Do you people HONESTLY believe that most of these old white Congresspeople aren't racist?!

Just don't bomb the shit out of people, don't violate my rights, don't crash the economy, and keep society running.

I don't give a fuck if you put on a mask of being some open minded humanitarian that doesn't see color.

The issue most people have with Trump is that he doesn't put on the mask that most other politicians do.

As long as these people go through the motions of pretending to be good people a lot of voters don't care what they do when it comes to policy. It's a joke.

What are your thoughts on banning people from entering the US because they're Muslim?

Wrong.

But he never did that.

He banned people temporarily from I believe 7 Muslim majority countries for security concerns.

I have an Arabic name and with Nigeria having so many issues with terrorism (remember the underwear bomber who almost took down a plane in 2012) I would obviously dislike if Nigeria was temporarily on a no-fly list.

But I wouldn't get emotional and irrational about it and automatically blame it on "bigotry" given the context of the situation. That would be childish and naive.

There's far more Muslim majority countries than the ones that were temporarily on the list and it wasn't a Muslim ban as a Christian from that country couldn't enter the United States and a Muslim from another country not on the list could enter the US.

So calling it a "Muslim ban" is just sensationalized news story telling to influence people such as yourself and control the narrative.

The source of the label "Muslim ban" came from Donald Trump calling for a ban that would prevent all Muslims from entering the United States "until we figure out what is going on," though.

What that turned into was somewhat different, yes, but that's where the label came from.
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De Evolution posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

You voted Trump? So you admit you're a sexist, racist, homophobe, transphobe who hates all Muslims and immigrants?

Yes.

I'm a Nigerian-American and my family is Muslim but you're correct.

Geez mods, my post was sarcasm and a joke...

metallica846 posted...

De Evolution posted...

There's far more Muslim majority countries than the ones that were temporarily on the list and it wasn't a Muslim ban as a Christian from that country couldn't enter the United States and a Muslim from another country not on the list could enter the US.

Ohhhh this?

So what was the ban on? We already have a no fly list, why did we need this blanket ban on certain majority muslim countries?

Obama restricted visas from Iraq for 6 months when there was a heightened terror threat.

Again, how is a ban on a few countries a ban on all Muslims? If this was true, then America has been waging a war on all Muslims for almost 2 decades.

A genuine, hate-fueled Muslim ban would include all or most of Earths 51 majority-Muslim nations.

In fact, a grand total of five majority-Muslim countries are restricted: Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen. All but Iran are destabilized and have heavy terrorist activity and even Iran is an enemy.

The travel limit also includes North Korea, an officially atheist state with a pre-Communist history steeped in Confucianism, not Islam.

Certain Venezuelan travelers also are proscribed. Like North Korea, Venezuela is neither Middle Eastern nor predominantly Islamic. Pew Research reports that its approximately 73 percent Catholic and 17 percent Protestant. Venezuela is 0.3 percent Muslim.

So clearly, this isn't close to a ban on Muslims. If it is, it's an awful one. My family is Muslim and would have had no issue traveling since our country wasn't on the list.

The premise of your argument and the logic behind it is beyond stupid if you're trying to argue that Trump banned all Muslims.

It's factually incorrect and doesn't make sense in any coherent way.
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De Evolution posted...

A genuine, hate-fueled Muslim ban would include all or most of Earths 51 majority-Muslim nations.

That's what Donald Trump said he wanted to do at first, though, which is why I asked about your thoughts on doing that.
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CableZL posted...

De Evolution posted...

A genuine, hate-fueled Muslim ban would include all or most of Earths 51 majority-Muslim nations.

That's what Donald Trump said he wanted to do at first, though, which is why I asked about your thoughts on doing that.

He says a lot of things. He's not measured in how he speaks at all.

There's a chance Trump is a huge racist who absolutely hates all Muslims.

There's also a chance Trump is no more racist than the average old white person, but a bit of a buffoon who started talking once a reporter got in his face with a camera and likely didn't even understand the details of the plans or questions they were asking.
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metallica846 posted...

So it was a terror ban?

WHAT WAS THE BAN ON?????

What in those countries gave DJT the willies soooooo much to ban travel from that country? The food?

You do know we've bombed 4 of these 5 countries in the past 10 years out of Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen and they all have heavy terrorist presence and aren't fully stable right?

And the 1 of the 5, Iran, is one of our enemies?

And do I have to explain Venezuela and North Korea?

Do you know fucking anything about geopolitics or history?

Do you know anything about anything?
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metallica846 posted...

So you just don't know what the ban was on. Got it.

More whataboutism in here nothing to see.

Lol you're a troll. Can't believe I just got trolled.

Why didn't anyone warn me?
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De Evolution posted...

CableZL posted...

De Evolution posted...

A genuine, hate-fueled Muslim ban would include all or most of Earths 51 majority-Muslim nations.

That's what Donald Trump said he wanted to do at first, though, which is why I asked about your thoughts on doing that.

He says a lot of things. He's not measured in how he speaks at all.

There's a chance Trump is a huge racist who absolutely hates all Muslims.

There's also a chance Trump is no more racist than the average old white person, but a bit of a buffoon who started talking once a reporter got in his face with a camera and likely didn't even understand the details of the plans or questions they were asking.

He said it at a rally; it wasn't like he was surprised by some paparazzi jumping out of the bushes with a shoulder cam and a boom mic or something. Presidential candidates and presidents alike are very much measured in how they speak and what they say. Especially in the case of the president, their words carry a lot of power.
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De Evolution posted...

He says a lot of things. He's not measured in how he speaks at all.

Ohh yes he is!!!
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yeah the constant doom peddling is obnoxious

i'd take yang...warren....meh....she'd help me out if she wiped out student debt but not sure that's a good idea overall....

maybe i will write myself in. i live in california so it doesn't matter much for the presidential vote.