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tommybel89
09/26/19 5:09:06 PM
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https://slate.com/comments/culture/2019/09/shane-gillis-snl-conservative-comedy-legion-of-skanks.html

In a nutshell, a few funny things I learned:

-If your comedy doesn't fit the mainstream, you are a conservative comic.

-The comedy club scene is a dangerous underbelly of conservatism and old boys networks.

-The picture they use in the article is comedian/podcaster and one of the funniest human beings alive, Big Jay Oakerson, a guy who never discusses politics. A socially liberal guy.

-I love that the poster boys of this article are 2/3's apolitical. Out of the 3 Legion of Skanks podcast members, only Dave Smith is political and he's a libertarian, which of course is some sort of red flag these days, amirite.

-Dave Chappelle, Michael Che, Louis CK, and others continue to be problematic. The podcast scene in NYC is a conservative bastion of the dreaded R word.

Genius blogging by Slate.
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tommybel89
09/26/19 5:11:47 PM
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OH DEAR GOD, how did I miss that the writer of that hack piece is Seth Simons, the guy who dug up dirt on Gillis and who continually tries to get Michael Che in trouble for his hateful comments?

This makes things 100 times funnier.
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tommybel89
09/27/19 4:46:10 PM
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5 retweets and 20 likes. Slate has like 2 million followers. The cancel mob is really huge.
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refmon
09/27/19 4:54:02 PM
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tommybel89 posted...
5 retweets and 20 likes. Slate has like 2 million followers. The cancel mob is really huge.

left said it doesnt exist though
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KiwiTerraRizing
09/27/19 4:57:10 PM
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You make bad topics and are stupid
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Malfunction
09/27/19 4:59:35 PM
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refmon posted...
tommybel89 posted...
5 retweets and 20 likes. Slate has like 2 million followers. The cancel mob is really huge.

left said it doesnt exist though

Lmao he was being sarcastic
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TheGoldenEel
09/27/19 5:04:15 PM
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This sure has you upset

Why are so certain people so vehemently defending comedians rights to be bigoted assholes in their comedy

You can be an edgy offensive comedian without specifically targeting minority groups and punching down

Youre free to think the examples given i this article are just fine and good comedy or whatever, but the rest of us will call it like it is
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tommybel89
09/27/19 5:09:50 PM
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This article is for fellow comedy fans. I don't know who you are.
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TheGoldenEel
09/27/19 5:11:26 PM
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tommybel89 posted...
This article is for fellow comedy fans. I don't know who you are.

I am a big comedy fan, I support my local club/scene and watch lots of specials
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TheGoldenEel
09/27/19 5:16:03 PM
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That TC has listened to nothing but Korn recently tells me all I need to know about him tbqh
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tommybel89
09/27/19 5:17:39 PM
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That's good that you support the scene. I've been to plenty of shows including some people mentioned in that article.
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tommybel89
09/27/19 5:20:21 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
That TC has listened to nothing but Korn recently tells me all I need to know about him tbqh

You're judging all you know of me...based on the recent album release of a band? Lmao. Of course the listens are inflated. That album just ****ing came out! Would it have made a difference if this was 2010 and I was in the middle of my Lady Gaga 2nd album phase? Or when I was massively into Kanye's autotune album?
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TheGoldenEel
09/27/19 5:22:57 PM
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Also just to use one example, the reason Big Jay Oakerson is included is because he has a recurring character that is a black baby that gives him the opportunity to use the n-word repeatedly

You painting it as being strictly about politics is disingenuous
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tommybel89
09/27/19 5:27:58 PM
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And yet he was very close to the late great Patrice O'Neal, and Kevin Hart was one of the guys he originally came up with in Philadelphia ~20 years ago, and Kevin Hart did a surprise appearance at Big Jay's show last summer in Montreal, and he's tight with Michael Che from SNL, and people of diverse backgrounds always appear on the show.

And those jokes were done in the context of "a black baby doing Def Jam Comedy". Which is funny. And if it isn't, don't watch.
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TheGoldenEel
09/27/19 5:28:29 PM
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He had a black friend so its okay
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Malfunction
09/27/19 5:29:34 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Also just to use one example, the reason Big Jay Oakerson is included is because he has a recurring character that is a black baby that gives him the opportunity to use the n-word repeatedly

You painting it as being strictly about politics is disingenuous

It seems like a pretty good article tbh as could probably be inferred from the TC criticising it.
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tommybel89
09/27/19 5:38:15 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
He had a black friend so its okay

No one is holding Michael Che or others hostage. Why does he continually appear on Jay's podcast? Does he need exposure to a niche audience of 10's of thousands (possibly 100's)? Does he just like the people? Does he need promotion from a podcast when he appears on SNL in front of a million+?

Like seriously.
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tommybel89
09/27/19 5:47:05 PM
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Malfunction posted...
TheGoldenEel posted...
Also just to use one example, the reason Big Jay Oakerson is included is because he has a recurring character that is a black baby that gives him the opportunity to use the n-word repeatedly

You painting it as being strictly about politics is disingenuous

It seems like a pretty good article tbh as could probably be inferred from the TC criticising it.

All one needs to do is look where the good comedians and prominent voices are lining up on this issue. I see Joe Rogan et al on one side and losers (establishment comedy) on the other side.
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