Current Events > When did rap become a garbage music genre

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pres_madagascar posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Why do posters who hate rap always have 5000+ karma....wonder if it has something to do with being old and out of touch...

Nah. They're the whitest.

I'm 32, white, and grew up on hip-hop. My boss is approaching 50 and grew up with it too. Age ain't really it.

It's part of it. It's just not all of it. There will always be open minded people from less open minded realms. Definitely more to do with age than race.
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Rap became garbage when gangstah rap was invented and infected the entire genre.

*came in just to say that, leaves topic and never enters again*

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SoIidLegacy posted...

Rap became garbage when gangstah rap was invented and infected the entire genre.

*came in just to say that, leaves topic and never enters again*

It's like they want to prove me right
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pres_madagascar posted...

DevsBro posted...

In my opinion? There are two key points thst separate good rap from bad rap:

1. Melodic and/or harmonic content. Drums and bass are cool and all but I like it to at least have some sort of texture. And a melodic chorus is nice, but not mandatory.

2. Content. When your song is about hookers, violence and/or your own ego I don't have any desire to listen to it.

Now, that may seem like painting with a broad brush but I actually do like quite a bit of rap because it satisfies both of those requirements.

Point number 2 is something that always irks me when people say. That same content is discussed in rock, metal, punk, pop, big band, etc music genres, but people only care when it's hip hop. I'm not criticizing you, it's just something I see a lot and it's always presented as if it's exclusive to hop hop.

Well there are two factors at play here:

1. Rap is much more lyric-focused than most genres, and while a lot of this comes out in the form of cadence, a lot comes out in meaning and stuff too.

2. Most genres are flooded to hell and back with generic love songs, or angsty heartbreak songs, which in fairness is, its own issue, lol.
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pres_madagascar posted...

Why is it OK for rock to have tons of violent content, but not hip hop?

I wonder....

Some racists think black kids mimic the actions described in hip hop lyrics in real life but white kids don't do the same in relation to rock music. Everyone mimics their music to some degree but only the insane/unhinged/chronically abused recreate the darkest stuff.

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Also why is all the rappers who rap about being good at rapping any different from all the rockers rocking about rocking?

besides, a song doesnt have to be about something to be goodimo the quintessential example of a good rapper who doesnt actually say much but is very good at saying nothing is Lil Wayne

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Thanks for all the suggestion guys. I guess I should change the way I been searching for music. I still depend on rock stations and youtube recommendations to find stuff. Which seems to be pretty outdated way to do it.

Abiz_ posted...

Thanks for all the suggestion guys. I guess I should change the way I been searching for music. I still depend on rock stations and youtube recommendations to find stuff. Which seems to be pretty outdated way to do it.

Youtube hooks me up but it's cause it already has so much input about me. I been living off the recs for years now
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It became garbage whenever mumble and "trap" rap became a thing, so for the last 4 or 5 years or so now, with a few exceptions of non-mumble and trap rappers releasing things.
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Just watch Epic Rap Battles of History and you dont need more.

imagine being on GameFAQs long enough to go from complaining about your dad to becoming just like your dad, lol.

"Heh, yeah, my dad is a little crazy and old school. he's stuck in his ways."

*10 years pass*

"Make America Great Again!"
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Eminem was the last good rapper.

SapphireClassic posted...

Eminem was the last good rapper.

lmao Eminem sucks dude

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2010s

Virtually eveything turned to trash (music and otherwise) in the 2010s
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D_Fen_Door posted...

Just watch Epic Rap Battles of History and you dont need more.

I know you're joking but this is the nerdiest thing I ever read.
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leebul posted...

It became garbage whenever mumble and "trap" rap became a thing, so for the last 4 or 5 years or so now, with a few exceptions of non-mumble and trap rappers releasing things.

Mumble and trap aren't even the majority.

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Flatbush Zombies is doing a good job of actually rapping I'd recommend checking out their song "Headstone".

Joey Badass is doing a good job.

There are still plenty of rappers who actually focus on lyrical rap and not just mumbling.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

imagine being on GameFAQs long enough to go from complaining about your dad to becoming just like your dad, lol.

"Heh, yeah, my dad is a little crazy and old school. he's stuck in his ways."

*10 years pass*

"Make America Great Again!"

Imagine being on gamefaqs for so long that you go from bitching about actual video games to just bitching in general and not adding of value to any discussion.

GhettoFlip posted...

lmao Eminem sucks dude

Eminem was really good. Now hes just mediocre. I dont think he ever really got out of his angry rapper gimmick and it hurt his quality once everyone else moved past it.


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imagine that pretending that CE is dedicated to video game discussion just to make a stupid point, and taking a defensive stance as if the shoe fits. maybe it does.
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Mainstream music is general is complete shit imo.
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Superlinkbro posted...

Mainstream music is general is complete shit imo.

There is no such thing as mainstream anymore with the streaming world. Anything can get popular, and often does. It's also not all complete shit. I used to have that hipster mentality too, 10 years ago.

There's some real creative, talented artists coming up in a lot of genres right now, several of whom are popular.

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When Kid Cudi became a household name. Really.
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CRON posted...

When Kid Cudi became a household name. Really.

Kid Cudi is closer to a singer than a rapper, my guy.

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People still say 'mumble rap'?
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I like quite a few strains of newer rap but almost all would be classified as more underground. I virulently hate the super mainstream melodic auto tune rap. Some mainstreamish rappers still catch my ear though like Lil Tecca earlier this year.
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you known the state of pop music is crazy when Bone Thug N Harmony can challenge The Migos to a competitive battle, and The Migos respond with, "naw, let's see who has the most money instead!"
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BobanMarjanovic posted...

People still say 'mumble rap'?

Only out of touch nerds who dont actually know anything about rap

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