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The best way to get comfortable with socialism is by projecting violence on voluntary, peaceful transactions that others engage in. That way you can feel like you have a moral high ground when you call for stealing their stuff. It also helps to pretend that the economy is a fixed pie.

If you want to go full Marxist youll have to grossly oversimplify the complexity of economic calculations that go into resource allocation. Otherwise youll see why market prices are important and why central planning doesnt work.

Lastly, be sure to pretend that human attributes like greed are only present in the private sector. Once a group of socialists seize control of assets they magically become a different class of humans that are immune to such temptations.
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treewojima posted...

TheMikh posted...

read tolstoy

or Solzhenitsyn

I had to Google how to spell his name lol

i found myself magically able to spell it after reading his work, though i still needlessly spellcheck

solzhenitsyn did a fine job of illustrating the worst of life under communism (see: state socialism)

hoppe does a decent job of elucidating how democracy inevitably gives way to state socialism, and how the state has an incentive to become ever larger and more pervasive

but i believe tolstoy is important because he's one of those rare socialist thinkers that opposed not just government coercion, but even anarchistically sanctioned forms of force, left or right - that is to say, the individual must be the agent of socialism, and it must be entirely peaceful

i inadvertently discovered while reading girard why tolstoy's most distinguishing axiom is anthropologically important - force invites retaliation, and retaliation invites retaliation, and retaliation invites retaliation, and ... (oversimplification, but succinct)

also, wannabe socialists should read up on syrian kurdistan and the philosopher that influenced it (bookchin)

socialism and capitalism should be permitted to coexist, neither system (or any ideology, system, or policy) being forced on people or their private or collective properties, who should be free to pick either or aspects of either and have the freedom to associate economically (or not) with others based on whether values and/or interests align
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tennisdude818 posted...

The best way to get comfortable with socialism is by projecting violence on voluntary, peaceful transactions that others engage in. That way you can feel like you have a moral high ground when you call for stealing their stuff. It also helps to pretend that the economy is a fixed pie.

If you want to go full Marxist youll have to grossly oversimplify the complexity of economic calculations that go into resource allocation. Otherwise youll see why market prices are important and why central planning doesnt work.

Lastly, be sure to pretend that human attributes like greed are only present in the private sector. Once a group of socialists seize control of assets they magically become a different class of humans that are immune to such temptations.

Well where's my free money and video games then

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@TheMikh

Did you read Hoppes Democracy, The God That Failed? I want to read that.
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tennisdude818 posted...

@TheMikh

Did you read Hoppes Democracy, The God That Failed? I want to read that.

i've read a short history of man: progress and decline, but regrettably haven't finished democracy: the god that failed yet; juggling a dozen books at any given point in time
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REMercsChamp posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

The best way to get comfortable with socialism is by projecting violence on voluntary, peaceful transactions that others engage in. That way you can feel like you have a moral high ground when you call for stealing their stuff. It also helps to pretend that the economy is a fixed pie.

If you want to go full Marxist youll have to grossly oversimplify the complexity of economic calculations that go into resource allocation. Otherwise youll see why market prices are important and why central planning doesnt work.

Lastly, be sure to pretend that human attributes like greed are only present in the private sector. Once a group of socialists seize control of assets they magically become a different class of humans that are immune to such temptations.

Well where's my free money and video games then

Rise up Yang Gang.
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Shablagoo posted...

Notti posted...

@Shablagoo posted...

Well youre looking at the textbook economic definition of socialism, Im thinking of it in a broader sense. In a purely capitalist state a lot of the socialistic programs we have today wouldnt exist and, as weve seen again and again ardently capitalist politicians do indeed try to cut those programs at every turn.

Let's adopt those policies.

lol xD pretty much my exact experience ITT

I thought you might enjoy it :)

treewojima posted...

I love this picture

;)

Damn_Underscore posted...

Why does the last pic have to make the guy look like an idiot/hypocrite rather than saying "No, I don't want a huge tax increase"

Seems biased to me, I dunno

AOC, THE SOCIALIST wants that.
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