Current Events > What is the dems' obsession with student loan debt?

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Complete_Idi0t 09/13/19 11:23:23 AM #52:	Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions... <cite>Complete_Idi0t posted [p:927382045] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 09/13/19 11:24:39 AM #53:	Complete_Idi0t posted... Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions... why not both? --- ... <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:927382107] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Complete_Idi0t posted...</cite> <quote>Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions... </quote> why not both?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thrashmetal14 09/13/19 11:24:53 AM #54:	Complete_Idi0t posted... Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions... Username checks out <cite>thrashmetal14 posted [p:927382117] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Complete_Idi0t posted... </cite> <quote>Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions...</quote> Username checks out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 09/13/19 11:25:36 AM #55:	shockthemonkey posted... Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness. Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here. --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:927382156] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness.</quote> Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/13/19 11:27:00 AM #56:	Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927382221] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 09/13/19 11:28:02 AM #57:	hockeybub89 posted... Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career. dont bother; its just another alt right troll job --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927382266] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career.</quote> dont bother; its just another alt right troll job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/13/19 11:28:27 AM #58:	Hanky_Bannister posted... hockeybub89 posted... Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career. dont bother; its just another alt right troll job --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927382290] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career.</quote> dont bother; its just another alt right troll job</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thrashmetal14 09/13/19 11:29:02 AM #59:	hockeybub89 posted... Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career. When I was 17 I was smart enough to go to community college instead of taking out a mammoth loan to go straight to university. But let's reward the dumb people and punish the responsible people. <cite>thrashmetal14 posted [p:927382328] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote> hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career.</quote> When I was 17 I was smart enough to go to community college instead of taking out a mammoth loan to go straight to university. But let's reward the dumb people and punish the responsible people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 09/13/19 11:31:01 AM #60:	hockeybub89 posted... Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career. They should have known better than to believe they have to follow their passion by taking on 6 figures of debt to attend some college which they somehow arbatrarily decided is their "dream school". There are plenty of people who took out a reasonable amount of loans and had no issues paying then back. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:927382394] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Those 17 year old children should have known better than to take out predatory loans to help them pay for the college they need for their future career.</quote> They should have known better than to believe they have to follow their passion by taking on 6 figures of debt to attend some college which they somehow arbatrarily decided is their "dream school". There are plenty of people who took out a reasonable amount of loans and had no issues paying then back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 09/13/19 11:31:10 AM #61:	Boomers: You need a college education to get a good job. You can grow up and be anything! Also boomers: LOL why'd you take out loans and get into so much debt for a degree in XYZ? --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:927382404] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Boomers: You need a college education to get a good job. You can grow up and be anything! Also boomers: LOL why'd you take out loans and get into so much debt for a degree in XYZ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 09/13/19 11:36:06 AM #62:	Are some of you saying that you're not responsible for your decisions at age 17? --- ... <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:927382592] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Are some of you saying that you're not responsible for your decisions at age 17?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Complete_Idi0t 09/13/19 11:36:33 AM #63:	The law says I'm not. Good enough for me. <cite>Complete_Idi0t posted [p:927382606] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>The law says I'm not. Good enough for me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/13/19 11:43:37 AM #64:	I can sorta see where they're coming from but it's not sufficient reasoning to cancel insane amounts of debt, especially with no regard to people who actually did pay theirs off, or saved up for their kids or any number of things. More appropriately, we need to attack the actual problems of tuition and books being outrageous and funds being horribly mismanaged. There are single donations in the 7 or even 8 digit range with the condition that it has to all be spent on a building named after the donor. That crap needs to be illegal. Congrats, now we have a Douchebag Hall, named for Senator Hugh G Douchebag, which can be seen from Outer freaking Space, but no, you still have to pay $500 a text book from the University book store. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:927382881] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>I can sorta see where they're coming from but it's not sufficient reasoning to cancel insane amounts of debt, especially with no regard to people who actually did pay theirs off, or saved up for their kids or any number of things. More appropriately, we need to attack the actual problems of tuition and books being outrageous and funds being horribly mismanaged. There are single donations in the 7 or even 8 digit range with the condition that it has to all be spent on a building named after the donor. That crap needs to be illegal. Congrats, now we have a Douchebag Hall, named for Senator Hugh G Douchebag, which can be seen from Outer freaking Space, but no, you still have to pay $500 a text book from the University book store.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 09/13/19 11:56:01 AM #65:	Also there is a ton of management bloat in colleges that has accelerated in the last 10-20 years. --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:927383383] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Also there is a ton of management bloat in colleges that has accelerated in the last 10-20 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 09/13/19 11:56:09 AM #66:	konokonohamaru posted... Are some of you saying that you're not responsible for your decisions at age 17? When you have near everyone in your life from your teachers, counselors, parents, friends, and other figures telling you that you need to attend 4 year university to get a degree and get a well paying job, the average 17 year old is going to do what they can to achieve that goal, including taking out predatory loans. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:927383393] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>konokonohamaru posted...</cite> <quote>Are some of you saying that you're not responsible for your decisions at age 17?</quote> When you have near everyone in your life from your teachers, counselors, parents, friends, and other figures telling you that you need to attend 4 year university to get a degree and get a well paying job, the average 17 year old is going to do what they can to achieve that goal, including taking out predatory loans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 09/13/19 11:57:42 AM #67:	so its not fair if someone else pays for your college, and you should be made to pay for 100% of it. got it! <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:927383453] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>so its not fair if someone else pays for your college, and you should be made to pay for 100% of it. got it!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 09/13/19 12:15:38 PM #68:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... konokonohamaru posted... Are some of you saying that you're not responsible for your decisions at age 17? When you have near everyone in your life from your teachers, counselors, parents, friends, and other figures telling you that you need to attend 4 year university to get a degree and get a well paying job, the average 17 year old is going to do what they can to achieve that goal, including taking out predatory loans. And yet there's also plenty of kids that don't fall for that nonsense. And if the problem is that someone took out a ridiculous amount of student loans that they can't afford to pay back because they just did what others told them to, having someone else foot the bill isn't going to teach them responsibility. They'll just go out the very next day and take out car loan or mortgage that they can't afford. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:927384163] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>NinjaWarrior455 posted...</cite> <quote>konokonohamaru posted...</cite> <quote>Are some of you saying that you're not responsible for your decisions at age 17?</quote> When you have near everyone in your life from your teachers, counselors, parents, friends, and other figures telling you that you need to attend 4 year university to get a degree and get a well paying job, the average 17 year old is going to do what they can to achieve that goal, including taking out predatory loans.</quote> And yet there's also plenty of kids that don't fall for that nonsense. And if the problem is that someone took out a ridiculous amount of student loans that they can't afford to pay back because they just did what others told them to, having someone else foot the bill isn't going to teach them responsibility. They'll just go out the very next day and take out car loan or mortgage that they can't afford.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 09/13/19 12:18:26 PM #69:	Complete_Idi0t posted... Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions... how about picking a major that has success out in the real world? Gender studies isn't gonna make anyone any bank. --- Keep the conspiracy nonsense to yourself. <cite>Caution999 posted [p:927384273] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Complete_Idi0t posted... </cite> <quote>Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions...</quote> how about picking a major that has success out in the real world? Gender studies isn't gonna make anyone any bank. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Top Crusader 09/13/19 12:19:32 PM #70:	thrashmetal14 posted... If student debt is cancelled then all those pretentious kids in high school that made fun of me for going to community college will have won. Haha. But yeah, like... if I knew I could just coast on minimum payments for years and eventually have the bulk of my student loans wiped out... I would've actually taken out student loans and gone to a better university and gotten a better degree and theoretically have a better job now. But I did what I thought was responsible and paid for community college as I went without any loans and have an associates degree and mediocre job now. >_> It feels like it isn't only rewarding those who made dumb financial decisions, but is punishing the people who tried to do the responsible thing. --- https://imgur.com/09qFfLV <cite>The Top Crusader posted [p:927384326] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>thrashmetal14 posted...</cite> <quote>If student debt is cancelled then all those pretentious kids in high school that made fun of me for going to community college will have won. </quote> Haha. But yeah, like... if I knew I could just coast on minimum payments for years and eventually have the bulk of my student loans wiped out... I would've actually taken out student loans and gone to a better university and gotten a better degree and theoretically have a better job now. But I did what I thought was responsible and paid for community college as I went without any loans and have an associates degree and mediocre job now. >_> It feels like it isn't only rewarding those who made dumb financial decisions, but is punishing the people who tried to do the responsible thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 09/13/19 12:23:47 PM #71:	The Top Crusader posted... It feels like it isn't only rewarding those who made dumb financial decisions, but is punishing the people who tried to do the responsible thing. That's essentially the basis of all of the Democrats' policies. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:927384491] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>The Top Crusader posted...</cite> <quote>It feels like it isn't only rewarding those who made dumb financial decisions, but is punishing the people who tried to do the responsible thing.</quote> That's essentially the basis of all of the Democrats' policies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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konokonohamaru 09/13/19 12:44:14 PM #73:	shockthemonkey posted... Villain posted... shockthemonkey posted... Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness. Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here. And theyre going to keep ignoring it. Because they rather virtue signal than think about practical policy. Was it practical policy to bail out the banks after the financial crisis? u know, coz economic collapse --- ... <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:927385374] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness.</quote> Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here.</quote> And theyre going to keep ignoring it. Because they rather virtue signal than think about practical policy.</quote> Was it practical policy to bail out the banks after the financial crisis? u know, coz economic collapse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 09/13/19 1:57:38 PM #75:	shockthemonkey posted... Villain posted... shockthemonkey posted... Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness. Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here. And theyre going to keep ignoring it. Because they rather virtue signal than think about practical policy. We're already kind of in this situation too. Millennials are not buying houses and not having as many children. --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:927388522] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness.</quote> Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here.</quote> And theyre going to keep ignoring it. Because they rather virtue signal than think about practical policy.</quote> We're already kind of in this situation too. Millennials are not buying houses and not having as many children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 09/13/19 2:02:39 PM #76:	Caution999 posted... Complete_Idi0t posted... Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions... how about picking a major that has success out in the real world? Gender studies isn't gonna make anyone any bank. Why do those types of degrees even exist Were they ever useful for anything other than those mediocre jobs that just require "a bachelor's degree" no matter what the degree is in? Or are there actual good careers out there for them, just not a lot of them so it's much harder to make use of them? --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:927388750] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Complete_Idi0t posted... </cite> <quote>Hmm, should I take out a loan, or work for minimum wage for the rest of my life? Decisions decisions...</quote> how about picking a major that has success out in the real world? Gender studies isn't gonna make anyone any bank. </quote> Why do those types of degrees even exist Were they ever useful for anything other than those mediocre jobs that just require "a bachelor's degree" no matter what the degree is in? Or are there actual good careers out there for them, just not a lot of them so it's much harder to make use of them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 09/13/19 2:12:54 PM #77:	Villain posted... Boomers: You need a college education to get a good job. You can grow up and be anything! Also boomers: LOL why'd you take out loans and get into so much debt for a degree in XYZ? Exactly. College was heavily pushed by parents, schools, etc. Also, simply saying "They should have been more responsible" doesn't change anything. Okay, so they screwed themselves in loans. What next? Leave everything as is? Let the next generations get into debt too? --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:927389186] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>Boomers: You need a college education to get a good job. You can grow up and be anything! Also boomers: LOL why'd you take out loans and get into so much debt for a degree in XYZ?</quote> Exactly. College was heavily pushed by parents, schools, etc. Also, simply saying "They should have been more responsible" doesn't change anything. Okay, so they screwed themselves in loans. What next? Leave everything as is? Let the next generations get into debt too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 09/13/19 2:13:32 PM #78:	So if your entire argument is based around "You shouldn't take on debt" then where are your next doctors, physicians, pharmacists, lawyers, etc, coming from? --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:927389219] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>So if your entire argument is based around "You shouldn't take on debt" then where are your next doctors, physicians, pharmacists, lawyers, etc, coming from?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 09/13/19 2:17:03 PM #79:	Bio1590 posted... So if your entire argument is based around "You shouldn't take on debt" then where are your next doctors, physicians, pharmacists, lawyers, etc, coming from? So you want to forgive the debt of doctors and lawyers and pharmacists making $200k+ a year? --- ... <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:927389367] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>So if your entire argument is based around "You shouldn't take on debt" then where are your next doctors, physicians, pharmacists, lawyers, etc, coming from?</quote> So you want to forgive the debt of doctors and lawyers and pharmacists making $200k+ a year?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 09/13/19 2:21:03 PM #80:	konokonohamaru posted... Bio1590 posted... So if your entire argument is based around "You shouldn't take on debt" then where are your next doctors, physicians, pharmacists, lawyers, etc, coming from? So you want to forgive the debt of doctors and lawyers and pharmacists making $200k+ a year? Why not? There should absolutely be zero arbitrary decisions made when it comes to loan forgiveness. But I mean, if you wanted to make that argument, if anything, those are the types of careers that should be covered. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:927389557] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>konokonohamaru posted...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>So if your entire argument is based around "You shouldn't take on debt" then where are your next doctors, physicians, pharmacists, lawyers, etc, coming from?</quote> So you want to forgive the debt of doctors and lawyers and pharmacists making $200k+ a year?</quote> Why not? There should absolutely be zero arbitrary decisions made when it comes to loan forgiveness. But I mean, if you wanted to make that argument, if anything, those are the types of careers that should be covered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 09/13/19 2:28:52 PM #81:	Like, do you know how much it costs to get a medical degree in Germany? A couple thousand Euros, at most, total. Being able to afford a place to live (if you have to leave home) is actually a larger concern than being able to afford your education. And that doesn't just apply to getting a medical degree, by the way, it's all higher-level education there. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:927389935] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Like, do you know how much it costs to get a medical degree in Germany? A couple thousand Euros, at most, total. Being able to afford a place to live (if you have to leave home) is actually a larger concern than being able to afford your education. And that doesn't just apply to getting a medical degree, by the way, it's all higher-level education there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chocobo_King 09/13/19 2:42:27 PM #82:	Coincidental timing, but I've had multiple older physicians tell me their total 4 year med school tuition was less than 1 year of mine. --- Drawn by Four_Seasons: https://imgur.com/OyNcS <cite>Chocobo_King posted [p:927390543] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Coincidental timing, but I've had multiple older physicians tell me their total 4 year med school tuition was less than 1 year of mine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 09/13/19 2:44:56 PM #83:	konokonohamaru posted... You took out a debt you should be responsible for paying it. How dare you --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:927390649] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>konokonohamaru posted...</cite> <quote>You took out a debt you should be responsible for paying it.</quote> How dare you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 09/14/19 8:16:59 PM #84:	I made good decisions so people in student debt shouldnt be able to succeed /files for bankruptcy on failed business and gambling debt --- ORAS secret base: https://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:927444240] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>I made good decisions so people in student debt shouldnt be able to succeed /files for bankruptcy on failed business and gambling debt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tryhaptaward 09/14/19 8:26:12 PM #85:	konokonohamaru posted... Bio1590 posted... So if your entire argument is based around "You shouldn't take on debt" then where are your next doctors, physicians, pharmacists, lawyers, etc, coming from? So you want to forgive the debt of doctors and lawyers and pharmacists making $200k+ a year? lol Pharmacists fresh out are not making anywhere near $200k+ Maybe not even six figures <cite>Tryhaptaward posted [p:927444571] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>konokonohamaru posted...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>So if your entire argument is based around "You shouldn't take on debt" then where are your next doctors, physicians, pharmacists, lawyers, etc, coming from?</quote> So you want to forgive the debt of doctors and lawyers and pharmacists making $200k+ a year?</quote> lol Pharmacists fresh out are not making anywhere near $200k+ Maybe not even six figures</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 09/14/19 8:26:30 PM #86:	_____Cait posted... I made good decisions so people in student debt shouldnt be able to succeed /files for bankruptcy on failed business and gambling debt Who are you referring to? --- ... <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:927444580] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>_____Cait posted...</cite> <quote>I made good decisions so people in student debt shouldnt be able to succeed /files for bankruptcy on failed business and gambling debt</quote> Who are you referring to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 09/14/19 8:29:54 PM #87:	Yeah, it's called pandering to desperate people with promises they'll never be able to keep --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:927444691] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it's called pandering to desperate people with promises they'll never be able to keep</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 09/14/19 8:36:22 PM #88:	Solid Snake07 posted... Yeah, it's called pandering to desperate people with promises they'll never be able to keep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE6ica0t95Q" data-time=" --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:927444911] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it's called pandering to desperate people with promises they'll never be able to keep</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE6ica0t95Q" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 09/14/19 11:28:33 PM #89:	Villain posted... shockthemonkey posted... Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness. Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here. The bigger picture than that, is punishing people for being financially responsible and rewarding financial illiteracy. Which is much more important and worse than the outcome of letting loans play out. --- Thief's Theme: GEbA Legacy Award for Best Fiction, Next Generation Indie Award for Best E-book Fiction: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1726713040 <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:927451256] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness.</quote> Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here.</quote> The bigger picture than that, is punishing people for being financially responsible and rewarding financial illiteracy. Which is much more important and worse than the outcome of letting loans play out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 09/14/19 11:59:59 PM #90:	lmao pretty sure "letting the loans play out" is going to cripple the country especially because more and more people are getting into that debt. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:927452368] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>lmao pretty sure "letting the loans play out" is going to cripple the country especially because more and more people are getting into that debt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 09/15/19 3:33:40 AM #91:	Bio1590 posted... lmao pretty sure "letting the loans play out" is going to cripple the country especially because more and more people are getting into that debt. Hey youcant let the poor people drink from the same fountains. Oh i mean be free Oh i meant free from debt Sorry did that sound like something else --- ORAS secret base: https://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:927458090] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>lmao pretty sure "letting the loans play out" is going to cripple the country especially because more and more people are getting into that debt.</quote> Hey youcant let the poor people drink from the same fountains. Oh i mean be free Oh i meant free from debt Sorry did that sound like something else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 09/15/19 6:04:48 PM #92:	Knowledge_King posted... Villain posted... shockthemonkey posted... Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness. Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here. The bigger picture than that, is punishing people for being financially responsible and rewarding financial illiteracy. Which is much more important and worse than the outcome of letting loans play out. Again, boomers drilled it into millennial heads that "you could grow up to be anything you want to be" and "you have to go to college to get a decent job" --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:927483480] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness.</quote> Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here.</quote> The bigger picture than that, is punishing people for being financially responsible and rewarding financial illiteracy. Which is much more important and worse than the outcome of letting loans play out.</quote> Again, boomers drilled it into millennial heads that "you could grow up to be anything you want to be" and "you have to go to college to get a decent job"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 09/15/19 6:48:56 PM #93:	It also encourages the schools to continue to find new ways to defraud students. --- ORAS secret base: https://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:927485329] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>It also encourages the schools to continue to find new ways to defraud students.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/15/19 6:51:28 PM #94:	Knowledge_King posted... Villain posted... shockthemonkey posted... Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness. Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here. The bigger picture than that, is punishing people for being financially responsible and rewarding financial illiteracy. Which is much more important and worse than the outcome of letting loans play out. Should we punish people for life for being financially illiterate at 16-17? When everyone in their life told them they'd be a failure if they didn't go to college? And lenders taking advantage of that? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927485433] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness.</quote> Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here.</quote> The bigger picture than that, is punishing people for being financially responsible and rewarding financial illiteracy. Which is much more important and worse than the outcome of letting loans play out.</quote> Should we punish people for life for being financially illiterate at 16-17? When everyone in their life told them they'd be a failure if they didn't go to college? And lenders taking advantage of that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 09/15/19 6:55:40 PM #95:	hockeybub89 posted... Knowledge_King posted... Villain posted... shockthemonkey posted... Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness. Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here. The bigger picture than that, is punishing people for being financially responsible and rewarding financial illiteracy. Which is much more important and worse than the outcome of letting loans play out. Should we punish people for life for being financially illiterate at 16-17? When everyone in their life told them they'd be a failure if they didn't go to college? And lenders taking advantage of that? No way. You cant let them have a chance. Because some guy had it better. If they had a chance, he wouldnt be great. --- ORAS secret base: https://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:927485630] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless of moral arguments, the fact that an entire generation is crippled financially and its about to cause a huge economic crash seems like a pretty good reason to be talking about student loan forgiveness.</quote> Quoting since this is an important point. People complaining that they didn't get into debt and etc are ignoring the bigger picture here.</quote> The bigger picture than that, is punishing people for being financially responsible and rewarding financial illiteracy. Which is much more important and worse than the outcome of letting loans play out.</quote> Should we punish people for life for being financially illiterate at 16-17? When everyone in their life told them they'd be a failure if they didn't go to college? And lenders taking advantage of that?</quote> No way. You cant let them have a chance. Because some guy had it better. If they had a chance, he wouldnt be great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2deepintell 09/15/19 6:56:53 PM #96:	At face value it seems like an attempt to bribe young people for their votes. --- Try not to be intimidated <cite>2deepintell posted [p:927485687] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>At face value it seems like an attempt to bribe young people for their votes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 09/15/19 7:01:30 PM #97:	Villain posted... Again, boomers drilled it into millennial heads that "you could grow up to be anything you want to be" and "you have to go to college to get a decent job" I mean...no matter what others tell you, you're responsible for your own decisions. Also no one said you have to got to an expensive college. Community colleges cost almost nothing and still give you half a bachelor's degree. --- Thief's Theme: GEbA Legacy Award for Best Fiction, Next Generation Indie Award for Best E-book Fiction: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1726713040 <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:927485875] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>Again, boomers drilled it into millennial heads that "you could grow up to be anything you want to be" and "you have to go to college to get a decent job"</quote> I mean...no matter what others tell you, you're responsible for your own decisions. Also no one said you have to got to an expensive college. Community colleges cost almost nothing and still give you half a bachelor's degree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 09/15/19 7:08:27 PM #98:	I will never vote for someone that supports loan forgiveness. I did 1 year running start (community college as a Hs student), 4 more quarters at CC to get my AA, then transferred to the university that was going to be cheapest for me to graduate from. Sorry if you were stupid and made bad decisions. But your stupidity shouldnt be my problem. Forgiving debt doesnt address any of the underlying issues. College does need it be cheaper. Change the law that student loan debt can be discharged upon bankruptcy and get rid of federal student loans. There should be some innovative solutions to fill the market of the countless universities that have fleeced a generation. And I dont want to pay for someone to spend 4 years to find themselves. You do that on your own dime. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:927486191] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>I will never vote for someone that supports loan forgiveness. I did 1 year running start (community college as a Hs student), 4 more quarters at CC to get my AA, then transferred to the university that was going to be cheapest for me to graduate from. Sorry if you were stupid and made bad decisions. But your stupidity shouldnt be my problem. Forgiving debt doesnt address any of the underlying issues. College does need it be cheaper. Change the law that student loan debt can be discharged upon bankruptcy and get rid of federal student loans. There should be some innovative solutions to fill the market of the countless universities that have fleeced a generation. And I dont want to pay for someone to spend 4 years to find themselves. You do that on your own dime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 09/15/19 7:08:59 PM #99:	Yeah I went to a community college but again, you're missing the big picture and long term ramifications --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:927486212] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I went to a community college but again, you're missing the big picture and long term ramifications</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 09/15/19 7:16:47 PM #100:	Villain posted... Yeah I went to a community college but again, you're missing the big picture and long term ramifications Propping up bad systems with no accountability is pretty bad long term ramifications IMO. Better to break the academic industrial complex now than to further kowtow to it. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:927486550] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>Villain posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah I went to a community college but again, you're missing the big picture and long term ramifications</quote> Propping up bad systems with no accountability is pretty bad long term ramifications IMO. Better to break the academic industrial complex now than to further kowtow to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/15/19 7:17:27 PM #101:	KILBOTz posted... I will never vote for someone that supports loan forgiveness. I did 1 year running start (community college as a Hs student), 4 more quarters at CC to get my AA, then transferred to the university that was going to be cheapest for me to graduate from. Sorry if you were stupid and made bad decisions. But your stupidity shouldnt be my problem. Forgiving debt doesnt address any of the underlying issues. College does need it be cheaper. Change the law that student loan debt can be discharged upon bankruptcy and get rid of federal student loans. There should be some innovative solutions to fill the market of the countless universities that have fleeced a generation. And I dont want to pay for someone to spend 4 years to find themselves. You do that on your own dime. You're being very selfish and disingenuous. Teenagers are still just children and the majority are still impressionable and utterly ignorant of real world and finances. You are an exception, not a rule. Not to mention, sometimes shit can just happen and fuck over your college plans or your post-college financial situation. Also, I'm pretty sure student loans are an issue for more than just gender studies and underwater basketweaving graduates. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927486573] in What is th... [t:78009478]...</cite> <quote>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>I will never vote for someone that supports loan forgiveness. I did 1 year running start (community college as a Hs student), 4 more quarters at CC to get my AA, then transferred to the university that was going to be cheapest for me to graduate from. Sorry if you were stupid and made bad decisions. But your stupidity shouldnt be my problem. Forgiving debt doesnt address any of the underlying issues. College does need it be cheaper. Change the law that student loan debt can be discharged upon bankruptcy and get rid of federal student loans. There should be some innovative solutions to fill the market of the countless universities that have fleeced a generation. And I dont want to pay for someone to spend 4 years to find themselves. You do that on your own dime.</quote> You're being very selfish and disingenuous. Teenagers are still just children and the majority are still impressionable and utterly ignorant of real world and finances. You are an exception, not a rule. Not to mention, sometimes shit can just happen and fuck over your college plans or your post-college financial situation. Also, I'm pretty sure student loans are an issue for more than just gender studies and underwater basketweaving graduates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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