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Zikten 09/05/19 10:47:57 PM #51: |
Fony posted...
darkjedilink posted...Fony posted...darkjedilink posted...Blue_Dream87 posted...darkjedilink posted...You do know that Proud Boys aren't Nazis, right? Why fuck his dad? He didn't found Proud Boys. His son did ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YokoGeri 09/05/19 11:50:06 PM #52: |
Fony posted...
I find it so unique because africans don't feel white, or asians don't feel white, despite colonization (though Singapore does have a lot of wannabe-British tints), yet hispanics do. I had no idea salvadorans had it as bad as cubans and argentinians. It's weird because they're some of the more brown-looking ones in central/south america. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 09/06/19 12:46:49 AM #53: |
YokoGeri posted...
PleaseClap posted...To become a fully fledged member of the proud boys, dont you have to beat someone up? Ah Can't say that I want someone who joined a group like that in any position of responsibility or power --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 09/06/19 12:52:47 AM #54: |
Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...How did he demonstrate an inability to fight fires? Is it a hate group? Their own website says they have members of all races, orientations, etc. That said, there CAN be hateful people in the group. Being a part of the group does NOT make someone instantly a racist, etc. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 09/06/19 12:55:26 AM #55: |
PleaseClap posted...
YokoGeri posted...PleaseClap posted...To become a fully fledged member of the proud boys, dont you have to beat someone up? That is not exactly it. This is apparently what the initiation is: 1. Publicly declaring yourself a Proud Boy. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frolex 09/06/19 1:04:45 AM #56: |
MaverickXeo posted...
Is it a hate group? Their own website says they have members of all races, orientations, etc. That's a good point, you can't be a racist if you say you're not. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 09/06/19 1:06:43 AM #57: |
Frolex posted...
MaverickXeo posted...Is it a hate group? Their own website says they have members of all races, orientations, etc. ![]() --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 09/06/19 1:16:42 AM #58: |
YokoGeri posted...
cause hispanics can be white or majority white. its not a race. like how theres black hispanics or native hispanics. granted, most hispanics are mixed race, but cubans are some of the whiter ones anyway --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 09/06/19 1:18:07 AM #59: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
Why are yall engaging darkjedilink ding ding ding --- https://i.imgtc.com/hB9W4JK.gif You act like I don't know my own way home ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 09/06/19 1:25:55 AM #60: |
Why hasn't Darkjedilink been moderated for being pro-nazi?
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RickyTheBAWSE 09/06/19 1:30:08 AM #61: |
I don't even respond to that dude.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 09/06/19 1:36:01 AM #62: |
They could have fired the fire chief and accepted the dudes resignation.
Shutting they entire vol. fire company down because of 2 people is fucking insane. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 09/06/19 1:38:36 AM #63: |
Frolex posted...
MaverickXeo posted...Is it a hate group? Their own website says they have members of all races, orientations, etc. Hard to be racist when several people of different races are in the group. Some members may be racist, but not all of them. We cannot judge a group by an individual - that in itself is prejudice. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 09/06/19 1:39:44 AM #64: |
MaverickXeo posted...
Frolex posted...MaverickXeo posted...Is it a hate group? Their own website says they have members of all races, orientations, etc. They're lying. And we're judging the group as a whole, which is a hate group. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 09/06/19 1:42:30 AM #65: |
MaverickXeo posted...
Frolex posted...MaverickXeo posted...Is it a hate group? Their own website says they have members of all races, orientations, etc. What's their proof of other races in their group? Also how do we know they aren't like Uncle Ruckus? --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frolex 09/06/19 1:44:35 AM #66: |
MaverickXeo posted...
Hard to be racist when several people of different races are in the group. Well if there are several proud boys that aren't white, I guess that does nullify open advocacy for white nationalist policy and numerous hate crimes the group is responsible for. These are the big brain takes the thread was in dire need of --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 09/06/19 2:14:05 AM #67: |
Frolex posted...
MaverickXeo posted...Hard to be racist when several people of different races are in the group. I know there are more than a couple. Looking at their rallies, people who claim to be minority members, etc. They are not a racist group; they are an extremist group, much like anti-fa. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frolex 09/06/19 2:18:18 AM #68: |
MaverickXeo posted...
They are not a racist group; they are an extremist group They're both, good try tho --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 09/06/19 2:21:32 AM #69: |
But sometime later, the group, which outwardly claims to reject racism, took a harder stance, as the rallys White supremacist tone drew increasingly bad press. So heres the deal Proud Boys, read an announcement in Proud Boy Magazine, if you want to go to the rally, I cant stop you. But just dont fucking wear your Fred Perry or decide to belt: Proud of Your Boy. Remember, we dont allow racists in Proud Boys, if you decide to rub elbows with those people in colors, you very well could find yourself being disavowed.
The Alt Lite is a variant of contemporary conservatism that breaks with the mainstream but publicly claims to reject the explicitly racist identity politics of the White supremacist Alt Right. The Alt Lite is largely a social media-driven phenomenon; their most prominent figures are all sub-mainstream personalities with large online followings: Mike Cernovich, Jack Posobiec, and of course Gavin McInnes. The Alt Lite movement sometimes uses people of color, women, and sexual minoritiesa tiny minority of their movementto convey their message. Indeed, the Proud Boys multiculturalism has caused them to fall out of favor among many White nationalist organizations. The difference is not entirely cosmetic: although Proud Boys blogs, Facebook pages, and private chats are full of content that is unquestionably racist, its of a subtler variety than the deeply racial memeticssuch as pictures of lynched Black people and Holocaust photosthat Alt Right groups deploy. The Proud Boys racism is sometimes only visible through the lens of the politics of privilege and institutional White supremacy. http://feature.politicalresearch.org/the-proud-boys The group itself is not a white supremist group, however, there are white supremists in the group. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 09/06/19 2:28:11 AM #70: |
yawn...
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Frolex 09/06/19 2:28:27 AM #71: |
MaverickXeo posted...
The group itself is not a white supremist group, however, there are white supremists in the group. The report, which led to the deputys firing, asserted that the FBI had designated the Proud Boys as an extremist organization with ties to white nationalism, though the Bureau denies that it investigates groups based on ideology. Thanks for posting a source that proves my point. Seems to happen a lot on this board. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 09/06/19 2:31:08 AM #72: |
Frolex posted...
MaverickXeo posted...The group itself is not a white supremist group, however, there are white supremists in the group. Ties to =/= being --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frolex 09/06/19 2:33:16 AM #73: |
MaverickXeo posted...
Ties to =/= being It does when you advocate for white nationalism and engage in white supremacist hate crimes --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 09/06/19 9:48:32 AM #74: |
there were non white nazis serving in their military
I guess the third reich was not racist after all --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YokoGeri 09/06/19 10:09:00 AM #75: |
MaverickXeo posted...
PleaseClap posted...YokoGeri posted...PleaseClap posted...To become a fully fledged member of the proud boys, dont you have to beat someone up? They say antifa. They mostly mean dark skinned folks. Walking while brown? "teh antifaz!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YokoGeri 09/06/19 10:11:02 AM #76: |
ThyCorndog posted...
YokoGeri posted... Have you look at the "white cuban" leading the proud boys? https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190817181007-portland-oregon-proud-boys-enrique-live-video.jpg If he is "mostly white" then AOC is an albino lol. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/06/19 10:14:55 AM #77: |
ThyCorndog posted...
there were non white nazis serving in their military How can someone be racist if they aren't flying into a rage and murdering every non-white person they see? Checkmate, atheists --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 09/06/19 10:16:49 AM #78: |
The fact that the chief refused his resignation indicates that this fire company was rotten from the top down
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Orchestrion 09/06/19 10:17:14 AM #79: |
darkjedilink posted...
gunplagirl posted...Good. This isn't a mere guilty by association issue, they were protecting him despite demonstrating an outright inability to perform his duties without issue. You understand that firefighters often do the jobs of EMTs as well right? Either you didnt know this or youre being purposefully ignorant in order to defend a hate group. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 09/06/19 10:17:35 AM #80: |
YokoGeri posted...
ThyCorndog posted...YokoGeri posted... I didn't say he was. I didn't know what he looked like cause I don't want to know about the proud boys in detail, since they're all pieces of shit. I was talking in general --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YokoGeri 09/06/19 10:19:52 AM #81: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
Why hasn't Darkjedilink been moderated for being pro-nazi? For the same reason I got moderated for posting 3 words in alternating case (no more) in a much bigger post without them, that happened to criticize the GOP. MaverickXeo posted... But sometime later, the group, which outwardly claims to reject racism, took a harder stance, as the rallys White supremacist tone drew increasingly bad press. So heres the deal Proud Boys, read an announcement in Proud Boy Magazine, if you want to go to the rally, I cant stop you. But just dont fucking wear your Fred Perry or decide to belt: Proud of Your Boy. Remember, we dont allow racists in Proud Boys, if you decide to rub elbows with those people in colors, you very well could find yourself being disavowed. You are not this naive. Nobody is. They decided to tone it down a bit because they couldn't handle the bad publicity. If they march with supremacists, go to supremacist events, have some supremacists in their ranks, call themselves western chauvinists and beat up people who oppose supremacists, then they're supremacists, period. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 09/06/19 10:21:06 AM #82: |
Doom_Art posted...
Tomato, tomahtoPfft. Would a Nazi Livestream himself shoving a butt plug into his anus to own the libs? No. Case closed. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/06/19 10:24:03 AM #83: |
North Korea isn't so bad. They say they are for the people.
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YokoGeri 09/06/19 10:24:57 AM #84: |
hockeybub89 posted...
North Korea isn't so bad. They say they are for the people. Democratic Republic of Congo... hey, it's a democracy!!! :O ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/06/19 11:04:55 AM #85: |
Orchestrion posted...
darkjedilink posted...gunplagirl posted...Good. This isn't a mere guilty by association issue, they were protecting him despite demonstrating an outright inability to perform his duties without issue. Yes, I know they're also EMT's. You have yet to explain how political views you don't like mean you can't be one. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YokoGeri 09/06/19 11:11:10 AM #86: |
darkjedilink posted...
Orchestrion posted...darkjedilink posted...gunplagirl posted...Good. This isn't a mere guilty by association issue, they were protecting him despite demonstrating an outright inability to perform his duties without issue. @darkjedilink - stop trying to mainstream hate as "political views". your stance on tax breaks? political views your stance on trade? political views your stance on foreign policy? political views somebody's stance on whether someone whose skin is too dark in the skin color scale should be allowed to live or to breathe the same air that an imaginary 'chosen race' breathes? NOT A POLITICAL VIEW. Get it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/06/19 11:23:28 AM #87: |
YokoGeri posted...
darkjedilink posted...Orchestrion posted...darkjedilink posted...gunplagirl posted...Good. This isn't a mere guilty by association issue, they were protecting him despite demonstrating an outright inability to perform his duties without issue. Show me anything suggesting this guy held such a view, since that's literally not a view of the Proud Boys. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YokoGeri 09/06/19 11:47:50 AM #88: |
darkjedilink posted...
YokoGeri posted...darkjedilink posted...Orchestrion posted...darkjedilink posted...gunplagirl posted...Good. This isn't a mere guilty by association issue, they were protecting him despite demonstrating an outright inability to perform his duties without issue. lmao ok you're just trolling, I get it. Are you now gonna say that trump likes hispanics too and that stephen miller loves diversity? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/06/19 12:06:08 PM #89: |
YokoGeri posted...
darkjedilink posted...YokoGeri posted...darkjedilink posted...Orchestrion posted...darkjedilink posted...gunplagirl posted...Good. This isn't a mere guilty by association issue, they were protecting him despite demonstrating an outright inability to perform his duties without issue. So, you admit you got nothing. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 09/06/19 12:09:40 PM #90: |
MaverickXeo posted...
PleaseClap posted...YokoGeri posted...PleaseClap posted...To become a fully fledged member of the proud boys, dont you have to beat someone up? PleaseClap posted...
--- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YokoGeri 09/06/19 12:19:15 PM #91: |
darkjedilink posted...
you: show me water is wet me: are you serious? Are you gonna tell me the sky isn't blue too? you: U GOT NOTHING!!!! LOLOLOLOOLOLO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kolibri X 09/06/19 12:26:21 PM #92: |
Shutting the entire company down seems like an overreaction.
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NeoShadowhen 09/06/19 1:00:51 PM #93: |
In late November 2018, a news story which attracted national attention[27] reported that the FBI classified the Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism;[13] however, two weeks later, an FBI official denied that it was their intent to classify the entire group in this manner, and ascribed the mistake to a misunderstanding.[27][28] The official said that their intent was to characterize the possible threat from certain members of the group.[29]
From Wikipedia. Just making sure everyone is current on the fbi thing as it seems like a lot of sources missed it. It seems like the town did what they had to do, as even taking out the supervisor and accepting the resignation would probably have its own issues. More than likely, the supervisor was acting on behalf of the feelings of everyone in the company, who were probably very much against the guy being forced to resign. This is a reasonable reaction to finding out that someone is a member of such a controversial group. I would be equally in favor of the same thing happening to someone associated with antifa. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 09/06/19 1:03:58 PM #94: |
How about if guys like DJL don't want to call them a white supremacist group we instead call them a violent street gang that have had multiple members arrested for causing fights and whose leaders have faced criminal charges for inciting riots. And that alone is enough for towns not wanting members of said group in a position to have to provide public protection.
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Musourenka 09/06/19 1:05:22 PM #95: |
eston posted...
The fact that the chief refused his resignation indicates that this fire company was rotten from the top down At the very least, he was willing to stake the company on protecting the guy. Either way, bad choice, and I don't blame the city here. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myzz7 09/06/19 1:06:02 PM #96: |
proud boys defend against black clothed terrorists at free speech events.
--- ''If I knew how to dox people, and you lived close to me, I would beat you with a bat.'' Bad_Mojo 8/24/2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoShadowhen 09/06/19 1:06:12 PM #97: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
How about if guys like DJL don't want to call them a white supremacist group we instead call them a violent street gang that have had multiple members arrested for causing fights and whose leaders have faced criminal charges for inciting riots. And that alone is enough for towns not wanting members of said group in a position to have to provide public protection. I would hope we could all agree on that. Even if it requires them to preface it with At the very least they are or At most they are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 09/06/19 1:49:01 PM #98: |
Musourenka posted...
eston posted...The fact that the chief refused his resignation indicates that this fire company was rotten from the top down that part. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/06/19 2:01:35 PM #99: |
Musourenka posted...
eston posted...The fact that the chief refused his resignation indicates that this fire company was rotten from the top down You do know that the city literally cannot do that, thanks to the First Amendment, right? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 09/06/19 2:09:38 PM #100: |
darkjedilink posted...
Musourenka posted...eston posted...The fact that the chief refused his resignation indicates that this fire company was rotten from the top down So what rights did the city try and stop? --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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