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Exeggcute
08/30/19 4:51:14 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49522500

Two former New York detectives have walked free after admitting to having sex with a handcuffed 18-year-old woman after arresting her.

Eddie Martins and Richard Hall arrested the woman for possession of marijuana before having sex with her in the back of a van in exchange for her release.

They will serve five years probation but escaped the prosecutor's request for one to three years in prison.

The men were initially accused of rape but the charges were later dropped.

On Thursday the former police officers, both in their mid to late thirties, pleaded guilty to official misconduct and other charges linked to the incident.

The police officers pulled the woman over in September 2017 as she was driving with friends and found her to be in possession of marijuana.

They then took turns to have sex with her in the back of the police vehicle, the court heard. The police officers did not report the arrest.

Afterwards, the woman went to hospital, where tests identified DNA matching both detectives.

The rape charges were dropped because the victim's credibility was "seriously, seriously questionable" and the charges could not be proved beyond reasonable doubt, said Justice Danny Chun.

The woman's attorney, Michael N. David, said it was a "complete injustice" that the ex-police officers escaped a jail sentence.

As a result of the case, a loophole was closed that previously allowed New York police officers to have sex with those in custody as long as it was consensual.

Martins and Hall, who resigned from the New York police department in 2017, "engaged in a shocking abuse of power", said Brooklyn District Attorney Eric Gonzalez, adding that he "would have preferred to see them serve prison time".

"We could not apply the new law retroactively, and serious credibility issues in this case precluded us from proceeding on additional charges," said Mr Gonzalez, "yet we remained committed to holding these defendants accountable".

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Hanky_Bannister
08/30/19 4:52:49 PM
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Fucking pigs

And they will be defended by scum nypd
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TheVipaGTS
08/30/19 4:53:28 PM
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no but see...they are cops so you have to respect them. stop being anti american, TC!
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Villisca
08/30/19 4:54:36 PM
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Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?
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YokoGeri
08/30/19 4:55:59 PM
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Judge: "Their boners were afraid for their erectile lives! Fair, next"

corrupted pieces of shit
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Omnislasher
08/30/19 4:56:35 PM
#6:


Villisca posted...
Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?

assume the former and tell us your thoughts on this
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MC_BatCommander
08/30/19 4:56:58 PM
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Villisca posted...
Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?


You act like the first situation isn't still rape
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YokoGeri
08/30/19 4:57:08 PM
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Villisca posted...
Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?


This is a really bad take.

So if somebody puts a gun to your head and a knife to your throat and asks you to give them your wallet, it's not a robbery because you agreed to give them your wallet? No.

She quote-agreed-unquote because her liberty was in danger
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Villisca
08/30/19 4:57:44 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
Villisca posted...
Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?

assume the former and tell us your thoughts on this

I don't have any thoughts on it, it's just a question.

Also I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to troll me.
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Pogo_Marimo
08/30/19 4:58:17 PM
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Pretty fucking awful. I hate how the nature of rape makes proving allegations of it so damn difficult.
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Villisca
08/30/19 4:58:53 PM
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God forbid somebody ask a fucking question to try and fully understand the situation
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Omnislasher
08/30/19 4:59:20 PM
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Villisca posted...
Omnislasher posted...
Villisca posted...
Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?

assume the former and tell us your thoughts on this

I don't have any thoughts on it, it's just a question.

Also I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to troll me.

ok stranger
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TheVipaGTS
08/30/19 5:01:33 PM
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Villisca posted...
Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?

does that matter? that shouldn't be a decision they make....
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kingdrake2
08/30/19 5:04:18 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Villisca posted...
Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?

does that matter? that shouldn't be a decision they make....


it's a pick your poison trauma. both emotionally fucked and life changing in the worse ways possible.
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Villisca
08/30/19 5:06:28 PM
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The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.
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Shablagoo
08/30/19 5:06:51 PM
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OgDUNvw
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kingdrake2
08/30/19 5:08:25 PM
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Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.


they're cops so it's rape by authority.
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Villisca
08/30/19 5:09:18 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.

Wow god forbid anyone doesnt feel like hearing the irrelevant what kind of rape question from someone too lazy to even read a fucking article

I really hope you never serve on a jury in an important case. I really do.
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MC_BatCommander
08/30/19 5:09:36 PM
#22:


Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.


You could have read the op
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Villisca
08/30/19 5:10:03 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.


You could have read the op

So I deserve to be jumped on?
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MC_BatCommander
08/30/19 5:10:23 PM
#24:


Villisca posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.


You could have read the op

So I deserve to be jumped on?


Yes
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EverDownward
08/30/19 5:10:29 PM
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Exeggcute posted...
The rape charges were dropped because the victim's credibility was "seriously, seriously questionable"

There are zero checks and balances for cops, goddamn
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Villisca
08/30/19 5:10:49 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.


You could have read the op

So I deserve to be jumped on?


Yes

Why
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Reis
08/30/19 5:11:21 PM
#27:


Villisca posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.


You could have read the op

So I deserve to be jumped on?


Yes

Why

because you're stupid as fuck lmao
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Shablagoo
08/30/19 5:11:48 PM
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^lmao
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MC_BatCommander
08/30/19 5:11:49 PM
#29:


Villisca posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.


You could have read the op

So I deserve to be jumped on?


Yes

Why


Because you didn't read before asking
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/30/19 5:12:06 PM
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I'm fine with sex for release. I'd get arrested a lot
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Villisca
08/30/19 5:13:55 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Villisca posted...
The point of my question was to find out if this was a violent rape or a rape by authority and all of you lost your minds.

It's truly pathetic someone can't ask a question to get all the details.


You could have read the op

So I deserve to be jumped on?


Yes

Why


Because you didn't read before asking

It's not in the OP and I can't click the link
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Doom_Art
08/30/19 5:15:39 PM
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"Hey why do people hate cops?"
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Shablagoo
08/30/19 5:15:40 PM
#34:


Villisca posted...
It's not in the OP and I can't click the link


It 100% is in the OP provided you have reading skills above the 3rd grade level.

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Villisca
08/30/19 5:17:42 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Villisca posted...
It's not in the OP and I can't click the link


It 100% is in the OP provided you have reading skills above the 3rd grade level.

Can you quote it for me? I still don't see it
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Bishop9800
08/30/19 5:21:18 PM
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As usual, someone will defend this....
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Shablagoo
08/30/19 5:21:58 PM
#37:


Villisca posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Villisca posted...
It's not in the OP and I can't click the link


It 100% is in the OP provided you have reading skills above the 3rd grade level.

Can you quote it for me? I still don't see it


As a result of the case, a loophole was closed that previously allowed New York police officers to have sex with those in custody as long as it was consensual.

"We could not apply the new law retroactively, and serious credibility issues in this case precluded us from proceeding on additional charges," said Mr Gonzalez

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Villisca
08/30/19 5:22:13 PM
#38:


"They then took turns to have sex with her in the back of the police vehicle, the court heard. The police officers did not report the arrest."

Cause if your talking about this part it does not say whether or not they raped her using their authority under the guise they would release or they violently beat her, raped her, and dumped her somewhere because they thought they could get away it.
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Villisca
08/30/19 5:23:53 PM
#39:


"As a result of the case, a loophole was closed that previously allowed New York police officers to have sex with those in custody as long as it was consensual."

All that tells me is that they closed a loophole in the law because of this case. That does not factually tell me in the OP they exchanged sex for release.
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MC_BatCommander
08/30/19 5:23:54 PM
#40:


Exeggcute posted...
As a result of the case, a loophole was closed that previously allowed New York police officers to have sex with those in custody as long as it was consensual.


Literally bold in the op
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biggernails
08/30/19 5:24:05 PM
#41:


Villisca posted...
Omnislasher posted...
Villisca posted...
Was this one of those things where she agreed to have sex if they released her or they actually forcefully raped?

assume the former and tell us your thoughts on this

I don't have any thoughts on it, it's just a question.

Also I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to troll me.

dude either way it's still rape
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Frolex
08/30/19 5:24:08 PM
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Shablagoo
08/30/19 5:25:39 PM
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Villisca posted...
"As a result of the case, a loophole was closed that previously allowed New York police officers to have sex with those in custody as long as it was consensual."

All that tells me is that they closed a loophole in the law because of this case. That does not factually tell me in the OP they exchanged sex for release.


Gotta get those reading comprehension skills up, bud. Remember, 4th grade level or higher if you want to understand this article.
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Villisca
08/30/19 5:26:23 PM
#44:


MC_BatCommander posted...
Exeggcute posted...
As a result of the case, a loophole was closed that previously allowed New York police officers to have sex with those in custody as long as it was consensual.


Literally bold in the op

See post 39. That is not a factual and clear explanation of what happened in any way whatsoever.
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MC_BatCommander
08/30/19 5:26:29 PM
#45:


You'd think he would just leave the thread instead of digging deeper lol
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biggernails
08/30/19 5:26:35 PM
#46:


Shablagoo posted...
Gotta get those reading comprehension skills up, bud. Remember, 4th grade level or higher if you want to understand this article.

If he wants to join the force, don't give him ideas that will disqualify him for that position.
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hockeybub89
08/30/19 5:26:38 PM
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Shablagoo
08/30/19 5:27:16 PM
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biggernails posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Gotta get those reading comprehension skills up, bud. Remember, 4th grade level or higher if you want to understand this article.

If he wants to join the force, don't give him ideas that will disqualify him for that position.


10/10 lmao
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Villisca
08/30/19 5:27:47 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
You'd think he would just leave the thread instead of digging deeper lol

The damage is done. I'm sure every one of you reported my posts and left some malicious notes for the mods all because I honestly didn't understand what happened.
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mooreandrew58
08/30/19 5:28:24 PM
#50:


Pogo_Marimo posted...
Pretty fucking awful. I hate how the nature of rape makes proving allegations of it so damn difficult.


Yeah I just got off jury duty and they really press upon the whole beyond a reasonable doubt part. Hell the judge wouldnt even let the jury make a verdict in the one im talking about. She threw the case out saying the cops didnt have enough evidence against the kid.
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