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SoraOwnsOctopus 08/28/19 4:33:38 PM #51: |
PleaseClap posted...
Interesting picture, I wonder where it's from lmao, that's pretty funny --- F*** b****es Get money ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 08/28/19 4:37:55 PM #52: |
New account obviously spreading bullshit from 4chan. Posters shouldn't engage seriously and mods really need to delete this.
Imagine being those dorks though. Godawful people. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 08/28/19 4:43:08 PM #53: |
Lets be honest though, theres more than just sexual preference behind consistently and loudly repeating your distaste for trans women and how youd never have sex with them, over and over again every time trans people are mentioned, like certain users on this board do.
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Abiz_ 08/28/19 4:45:54 PM #54: |
That picture is from 4chan. 4chan winning again against easily offended.
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 4:46:05 PM #55: |
OpenlyGator posted...
The average straight person's definition of heterosexuality typically does not include dating transgendered people. Believe it or not, that's not oppression. So which way is gay? Dating a trans man or a trans woman? Or does being trans inherently make everyone who wants to date you gay no matter what? --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 08/28/19 4:52:56 PM #56: |
PleaseClap posted...
Interesting picture, I wonder where it's from Exactly. People need to wake the fuck up and understand you are all being manipulated by trolls. All these fucking protests are the work of fucking online trolls and everyone works themselves into a shoot [It's fake, but idiots fake it so much they start to think it's real] --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VIIVincent 08/28/19 4:56:12 PM #57: |
How? I've browsed the interwebs long enough to know that traps are one of the biggest fetishes out there.
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Cosmic_Diabetic 08/28/19 4:58:31 PM #58: |
darkjedilink posted...
Elmer_Glue posted...>literally falling for a 4chan meme I know right, https://i1.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/comp-1566324309.png?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=644%2C362&ssl=1 completely imaginary and frankly how could anyone come to that conclusion? Zero evidence of the ok symbol being used for racism. https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/brenton-tarrant-857.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1 ZERO! --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OpenlyGator 08/28/19 4:58:43 PM #59: |
Shablagoo posted...
Lets be honest though, theres more than just sexual preference behind consistently and loudly repeating your distaste for trans women and how youd never have sex with them, over and over again every time trans people are mentioned, like certain users on this board do. Yeah, there are people who are also aggressively discriminatory towards trans people. Some of them are also outspoken about not wanting to date trans people. Surprise surprise... Not everyone who admits to be disinterested in dating trans partners is one of those haters though. And it's grossly disingenuous when someone implies that's the case. Some of them for the most part are fine with trans people being in the neighborhood, being coworkers, being friends, being politically supported. Some people not being interested in dating (or more accurately sex) with trans folk is not innately hatred. Especially when those people are otherwise outwardly supportive of trans communities in multiple other ways. Some of them might even be related to a trans person who they love as a family member very much, but still not interested in dating trans partners themselves. Media messages and social movements involved with pressuring other people to date a certain group will always fail, because it's not only dismissing what the people actually want instead...it's demonizing it. That can actually lead to an INCREASE in discrimination and hate crimes towards trans folk, not lessen it. --- The funny thing about telling others to take the high road is how often it's hypocritical advice. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/28/IdSqD.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 08/28/19 5:01:04 PM #60: |
^Agreed
Cosmic_Diabetic posted... I know right, https://i1.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/comp-1566324309.png?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=644%2C362&ssl=1 Are they riding a rollercoaster lmao --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 08/28/19 5:01:28 PM #61: |
left wingers: "Just becasue you're nice to a woman doesn't mean that you're entitled to date her! She owes you nothing!"
left wingers: "Haha! It's hilarious when short guys get mocked and ridiculed by women for being undesirable! They don't deserve to have girlfriends!" also left wingers: "You're obligated to find transgender people attractive and you're a horrible bigot if you refuse to date them!" --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dathrowed1 08/28/19 5:03:01 PM #62: |
PleaseClap posted...
Interesting picture, I wonder where it's fromclose this topic --- sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 08/28/19 5:04:09 PM #63: |
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
transman This topic and the tweet in question is about transwomen and their penises, not transmen and their vaginas. --- Oda break tracker 2019- 5 (4) | THE Ohio State: 0-0 | Oakland Raiders: 0-0 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 5:05:32 PM #64: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
left wingers: "Just becasue you're nice to a woman doesn't mean that you're entitled to date her! She owes you nothing!" Only that first one sounds left wing. And even then it is less left wing and more just not being an incel. This sounds like a case of 'the people I don't like all have the same opinions.' In what world is making fun of short guys a left wing idea? That definitely sounds way more right wing to me. Putting someone down for their appearance and something they can't control. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cosmic_Diabetic 08/28/19 5:05:33 PM #65: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
left wingers: "Just becasue you're nice to a woman doesn't mean that you're entitled to date her! She owes you nothing!" "Yep, all liberals have all these thoughts. Aren't liberals such two-dimensional Disney level bad guys? Not like us multi-facted far right conservative people. That's why we're the good guys in our black and white universe." --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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epik_fail1 08/28/19 5:06:50 PM #66: |
I do not hate trans, I also support trans people right, but I would not date a trans. I don't think it makes me hateful.
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viewmaster_pi 08/28/19 5:07:11 PM #67: |
it's not even the penis, it's the biological male form that turns away heterosexual dudes first, because you don't even see any dicks before that, but I don't think this should really have to be said, lol
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Middle hope 08/28/19 5:07:14 PM #68: |
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DifferentialEquation 08/28/19 5:07:53 PM #69: |
MrNintendo1213 posted...
In what world is making fun of short guys a left wing idea? That definitely sounds way more right wing to me. Putting someone down for their appearance and something they can't control. It's a universal opinion. Both right wingers and left wingers mock short guys. The difference is right wingers don't also think you're obligated to date transgender people like the left does. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cosmic_Diabetic 08/28/19 5:08:27 PM #70: |
Dathrowed1 posted...
PleaseClap posted...Interesting picture, I wonder where it's fromclose this topic I just always assume if the statistic is put in meme form then it is probably made by a conservative. Conservatives have really taken over making meme's. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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epik_fail1 08/28/19 5:09:30 PM #71: |
ZMythos posted...
A lot of people ITT skipped straight to sex when the OP just said "Date" BTW. I would easily befriend a trans or defend a trans that gets harassed, but I would still not date one. --- Primrose for smash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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epik_fail1 08/28/19 5:10:11 PM #72: |
Mist_Turnips posted...
Not hate I am gay and I am not into trans. I don't get why so many straight people think gay people are into trans --- Primrose for smash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 5:11:15 PM #73: |
epik_fail1 posted...
I do not hate trans, I also support trans people right, but I would not date a trans. I don't think it makes me hateful. Probably not hateful. If you are hateful that would be independent of it. It might make you a bit misguided, depending on your reasoning. If you don't want to because you want to have biological children with your partner one day that could make sense. If you don't want to because you think it is gay, that is definitely misguided. No one will ever answer when I ask. If you don't think it would be straight to be with a transwoman as a cis man, would it be straight to be with a trans man as a cis man? --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 08/28/19 5:11:36 PM #74: |
epik_fail1 posted...
Mist_Turnips posted...Not hate Probably because they're part of the acronym LGBT --- Oda break tracker 2019- 5 (4) | THE Ohio State: 0-0 | Oakland Raiders: 0-0 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NonDairyMiltank 08/28/19 5:14:32 PM #75: |
PleaseClap posted...
Interesting picture, I wonder where it's from even if its just a meme, its equally ridiculous for both where it came from and what it says --- Moo. #Listen&Investigate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dathrowed1 08/28/19 5:15:39 PM #76: |
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
I just always assume if the statistic is put in meme form then it is probably made by a conservative. Conservatives have really taken over making meme's.sadly yes --- sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 08/28/19 5:16:42 PM #77: |
Respect all forms of gender and sexual diversity and identity!
What about heterosexual and homosexual cisgenders that are only sexually attracted to other cisgenders? You're literally Hitler. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 08/28/19 5:22:26 PM #78: |
Left-wing rhetoric in the 2000s: Its not your business who other people want to sleep with! Gay people deserve the right to marry and should be left alone!
Left-wing rhetoric in the 2010s: If youre not willing to sleep with groups of people I think you should, youre a hateful bigot! Progress, right guys? --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 5:29:04 PM #79: |
The Admiral posted...
Left-wing rhetoric in the 2000s: Its not your business who other people want to sleep with! Gay people deserve the right to marry and should be left alone! You don't have to sleep with anyone you don't want to. But that doesn't mean you can't be a bigot for denying someone for belonging to a certain group. Go ahead and say no black women are attractive. That's literally racist but you can definitely say it. You can say whatever you want, but don't expect people to not tell you the truth about you acting bigoted. And I ask someone again. Would you stop being straight for being attracted to a trans woman? Or would you be gay for being attracted to a trans man? If it is so black and white and trans women are still men in your eyes, it has to go both ways. I'm not asking if you want to sleep with any trans people. Go ahead and sleep with whoever you want who will have you I'm just asking which one would be gay in your eyes. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 5:30:31 PM #80: |
K181 posted...
Respect all forms of gender and sexual diversity and identity! The only point I make about it is, if you think they are hot they are hot. If you think they are hot, and then you find out they are trans and think that is gross, you are most likely just lying to yourself because you don't want to catch the imaginary gay. You can't be literally only attracted to cis people, because you cant always tell. When you see a trans girl who passes, you just assume they aren't trans. So it feels like the only real trans people are one who you aren't attracted to. There is a good chance all these people who talk about how they would never be attracted to a trans person have already seen some and thought damn they are hot, but just didn't know the difference. If you think someone is hot, but change your mind after you find out they are trans, that is literally transphobic. Phobic doesn't always mean fear, it also can mean an extreme aversion to. Acting like it would be disgusting to date them is indeed an extreme aversion to. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 08/28/19 5:31:48 PM #81: |
MrNintendo1213 posted...
You don't have to sleep with anyone you don't want to. But that doesn't mean you can't be a bigot for denying someone for belonging to a certain group. By definition, engaging in a sex act with same-sex genitalia is a homosexual act. There is no ambiguity there. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Led-Zeppelin 08/28/19 5:34:19 PM #82: |
MrNintendo1213 posted...
Bryfang posted...MrNintendo1213 posted...This. If you all are so determined that genitals determine gender, how do you feel about this person who you apparently consider a lady? shut the fuck up with this nonsense. its perfectly fine for a man not to be interested in a person who presents as female because they have a dick, and its just as reasonable not to be interested in a person who presents as a man even though they have a vagina. you can absolutely have it both ways without even needing a double standard or anything ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 08/28/19 5:36:45 PM #83: |
MrNintendo1213 posted...
K181 posted...Respect all forms of gender and sexual diversity and identity! I don't understand this attraction angle of discussion. The point of contention for most people is the existence/former existence of a penis. Even if she's supermodel-level attractive to someone, that is an absolute no-go for most people. I completely agree with removing stigmatization in cases where a person would otherwise be willing but fears what others may think, but that's a person by person case. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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epik_fail1 08/28/19 5:45:18 PM #85: |
MrNintendo1213 posted...
Probably not hateful. If you are hateful that would be independent of it. It might make you a bit misguided, depending on your reasoning. If you don't want to because you want to have biological children with your partner one day that could make sense. If you don't want to because you think it is gay, that is definitely misguided. If you did not see my other post. I am gay. I would still not date a trans --- Primrose for smash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 6:12:55 PM #86: |
The Admiral posted...
MrNintendo1213 posted...You don't have to sleep with anyone you don't want to. But that doesn't mean you can't be a bigot for denying someone for belonging to a certain group. Okay. No ambiguity. Tell me with no ambiguity in your black and white world, which one of these people would you consider it gay if you slept with them? https://i.imgur.com/1H8TTev_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium https://i.redd.it/ujuw1w5sphg31.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UaILfo6_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/550505084576858112/616394478495989760/df189f1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IjJTZhD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium https://i.redd.it/on6f83y7d8j31.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0mpO8uJ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium Some images might not work, I'm not sure. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 6:15:02 PM #87: |
epik_fail1 posted...
MrNintendo1213 posted...Probably not hateful. If you are hateful that would be independent of it. It might make you a bit misguided, depending on your reasoning. If you don't want to because you want to have biological children with your partner one day that could make sense. If you don't want to because you think it is gay, that is definitely misguided. Okay? There are plenty of gay people who are transphobic too. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 08/28/19 6:28:57 PM #88: |
MrNintendo1213 posted...
Okay. No ambiguity. Tell me with no ambiguity in your black and white world, which one of these people would you consider it gay if you slept with them? I'm not saying a person is gay just because they sleep with any of those people. They could be bisexual also, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 08/28/19 6:29:14 PM #89: |
why do you just have all these pictures at the ready
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 6:29:17 PM #90: |
Led-Zeppelin posted...
MrNintendo1213 posted... It isn't nonsense at all. I never said you had to date someone if they have or used to have a dick. I would never want to force you to do something you don't want to like that. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to point out that it is literally transphobic. Transphobic is just a word, and if what you do fits the definition then it just does. Showing an extreme aversion to dating trans woman who you already found attractive is transphobic. I'm not specifically judging whether that is good or bad, but it is true. It is similar to the "I wouldn't date a black girl." Logic. Sure you can date whoever you want, but it is literally discriminating based on race. Which is racist no matter whether you think it is right. It makes me think of the Avenue Q song, "Everyone's a little bit racist". You can be racist, or in this case transphobic, and still be a good person. My point is just that things aren't as black and white as people act like they are. Not dating someone isn't the same as wanting to go out and murder them. But that doesn't mean it isnt discrimination. It's just a word, discrimination is still discrimination. There is the added debate of how moral or immoral some specific instances of discrimination are, but that doesn't change the basic fact of what discrimination is. Sometimes it can be useful. Like discriminating against people who can't drive a large vehicle when determining who should be a bus driver. If you want to discriminate against trans people because you want biological children with them, I would definitely concede that makes sense. But if you don't want to have sex with someone you find attractive because they are trans, I'm still free to think that you are being silly and acting that way out of fear of catching the big gay. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 6:32:16 PM #91: |
The Admiral posted...
MrNintendo1213 posted...Okay. No ambiguity. Tell me with no ambiguity in your black and white world, which one of these people would you consider it gay if you slept with them? Way to not answer the question at all. So are you saying wanting to have sex with a trans person is only possible if you are bi? Whether or not they have a penis or vagina, you definitely have to be bi? --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendarylemur 08/28/19 6:34:45 PM #92: |
Typical 4chan.
But in all srsness, I know a lot of ppl aren't willing to invest themselves into a deep relationship with a trans woman because they want to have biological kids someday. I think I'm on a same boat, though if the opportunity presents itself, I'd be too curious to wave it away --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgtc.com/7dRrfE1.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Razuberii 08/28/19 6:34:54 PM #93: |
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
your average transperson does not look like that. --- Burd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cosmic_Diabetic 08/28/19 6:35:34 PM #94: |
The Admiral posted...
Left-wing rhetoric in the 2000s: Its not your business who other people want to sleep with! Gay people deserve the right to marry and should be left alone! It must be easy on your brain to just categorize all liberals as having both these thoughts and making them one-dimensional caricatures of Disney villains. Not at all the fact that these sentiments are said by completely different groups. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Razuberii 08/28/19 6:36:16 PM #95: |
MrNintendo1213 posted...
The Admiral posted...Left-wing rhetoric in the 2000s: Its not your business who other people want to sleep with! Gay people deserve the right to marry and should be left alone! are you going to use this same rhetoric for gay men who aren't attracted to women? or is that not sexist? --- Burd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 6:37:31 PM #96: |
viewmaster_pi posted...
why do you just have all these pictures at the ready I didn't, I went and found people of what I consider to be different levels of attractiveness to show that it isnt as simple as a guy being with someone born male= gay, or the opposite. And maybe some of those people are trans. Or maybe they are all trans. Or maybe they are all not. The point is it isnt so simple to have one exact answer, which a lot of people like to say. If the reasoning you give for not dating a trans girl is, "I am straight." Then you have to believe that it is gay to be with a trans woman, or gay to be with a trans man, but not both. Or you could believe that anyone who wants to date a trans person of either gender has to be bi, which I'm assuming is what Admiral believes based on his response. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 6:40:09 PM #97: |
Razuberii posted...
MrNintendo1213 posted...The Admiral posted... Yes that would be sexist. But being sexist doesn't have to only be a bad thing. Most of the time it is bad, but discriminating based on sex makes sense in some situations. Someone made the topic asking if wanting to have a boy baby instead of a girl was sexist. I said it was sexist, but also that would be my preference as well. It is sexist of me to discriminate what kind of baby I would prefer, but that doesn't make it a bad thing. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 08/28/19 6:41:30 PM #98: |
I like my women to have never had a penis because eventually were gonna fuck and make up or not I'm still gonna be able to tell that's a dude post op. Those vaginas are noticeable and you can tell in the body and face.
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MrNintendo1213 08/28/19 6:42:22 PM #99: |
Razuberii posted...
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted... Oh I'm glad you met with all the trans people to decide what the average was. I would love to see your data on the subject. Or wait, you didn't. And you don't know that many trans people most likely, so you don't really have any way of knowing what would be average. And btw, I'm not saying I know either. I definitely don't because it isnt really that much of my business to know. --- Dot Dot Dot... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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