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Colorahdo
08/25/19 4:46:03 PM
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Job A:
At job A I served as an A tech for seven years, servicing the people of Colorado with skills such as X, Y, Z. This is considered an elite level A group and we took our profession as seriously as it required

Or

Job A:
Duties: X, Y, Z


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Reis
08/25/19 4:46:27 PM
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speak in wingdings
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Rika_Furude
08/25/19 5:04:58 PM
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The first one
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
08/25/19 5:05:28 PM
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Clear and concise. Get to the point.
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Colorahdo
08/25/19 5:08:11 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
The first one


sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Clear and concise. Get to the point.


Hmm

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 5:08:54 PM
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Clear, concise, short.
Your resume is there to have a dude look at it in five seconds flat and say "yes, this person passes the basic skill levels, I will now read the cover letter". Cover letter is where you can expand on your duties.
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Smashingpmkns
08/25/19 5:08:57 PM
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Second. Wordy applications are the worst.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 5:12:53 PM
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Something like:
2015 - 2018 Forum Moderator at GameFAQs.com
Being the face of the community and representing higher management to the community at large
Reviewing reported messages and acting as needed using decision making in according with the rules of the site
Reviewing and managing appealed messages form users including making decisions to uphold or to reverse the moderation
Giving feedback on the rules and regulations gathered from the community

Etc.
On your cover letter you'd put something like: GameFAQs.com has over 3000 users daily posting actively to the forums. In addition to being a liason between upper management and the commuinity, I was also responsible for x/y/z (say answering forum user quests in regards to the site)
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No_U_L7
08/25/19 5:14:08 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
Job A:
At job A (repetitive, you already stated the job) I (don't use "I", just state what you did) served (use present tense even if it's a past job, since those were your active duties) as an A tech for seven years (your job title and duration in precise months should be stated next to the job in the title), servicing the people of Colorado with skills such as X, Y, Z (you need to be more precise, each skill should be it's own sentence and you need to say exactly what you did with those skills). This is considered (if it's considered, they should aready know and it should be convey in your statement, no need to talk down to the reader) an elite level A group and we took our profession as seriously as it required (this sounds like you goofed off, do you really need to say you took your professional job seriously?)

Or

Job A:
Duties: X, Y, Z


This is advice from someone who did 30+ interviews in the last 3 years and just re-tooled my resume today to keep up to date. to summarize: you're doing everything wrong lol

ask me if you need more advice

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Colorahdo
08/25/19 5:17:41 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
This is advice from someone who did 30+ interviews in the last 3 years and just re-tooled my resume today to keep up to date. to summarize: you're doing everything wrong lol

ask me if you need more advice


I currently do have it as:

Job A:

Duty X involved this this this

Duty Y involved this that those

Duty Z blah blah blah

It just seems like it takes up a lot of space for one page

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No_U_L7
08/25/19 5:19:41 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
I currently do have it as:

Job A:

Duty X involved this this this

Duty Y involved this that those

Duty Z blah blah blah

It just seems like it takes up a lot of space for one page


You need to learn to be more precise with less words. Dont need to use bullet points, it can be paragraph, just make it terse

"Create figures in excel to evaluate x data for y project", "simulate x in program y to determine z risk"

Etc

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 5:20:59 PM
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do not fucking listen to scolfield
dude'#s been trolling the site for over a decade
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archedsoul
08/25/19 5:22:06 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Every word must be put through a thesaurus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s0LqZMsfTQ" data-time="&start=26

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Colorahdo
08/25/19 5:22:39 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
You need to learn to be more precise with less words. Dont need to use bullet points, it can be paragraph, just make it terse

"Create figures in excel to evaluate x data for y project", "simulate x in program y to determine z risk"

Etc


Can it be abbreviated like that? No full sentences?

Job A:

detonate explosives on three man teams, supervise and train lower level techs, etc etc

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No_U_L7
08/25/19 5:23:23 PM
#16:


Colorahdo posted...
Can it be abbreviated like that? No full sentences?

Job A:

detonate explosives on three man teams, supervise and train lower level techs, etc etc


Correct

Those are full sentences fyi

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MabusIncarnate
08/25/19 5:25:30 PM
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Focus on the facts, the education, the experience, keep it simple and straight to the point. No one gives a shit about your goals or mission statement.

"Seeking a competitive field in a broad and challenging enviornment..." etc no one cares.

I've looked through thousands of resumes in my life, I usually take a 5 to 10 second glance over education and work history. I've never once called a "personal reference" nor do I care if you volunteered to stock books at a library.

I need to hire someone qualified, are you qualified enough to interview? That's all I care about.

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Colorahdo
08/25/19 5:29:51 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Focus on the facts, the education, the experience, keep it simple and straight to the point. No one gives a shit about your goals or mission statement.

"Seeking a competitive field in a broad and challenging enviornment..." etc no one cares.

I've looked through thousands of resumes in my life, I usually take a 5 to 10 second glance over education and work history. I've never once called a "personal reference" nor do I care if you volunteered to stock books at a library.

I need to hire someone qualified, are you qualified enough to interview? That's all I care about.


But can it be too simple?

Because I could just bullet point my duties

- Explosives tech
- Supervisor
- Level C

Or I could expound a bit

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No_U_L7
08/25/19 5:31:33 PM
#19:


Colorahdo posted...
But can it be too simple?

Because I could just bullet point my duties

- Explosives tech
- Supervisor
- Level C

Or I could expound a bit


none of those words mean anything without context. what are the responsibilities of an explosives tech? what supervisory duties did you have, how many people did you oversee to what extent, wtf does level C mean etc

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MabusIncarnate
08/25/19 5:32:22 PM
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I see no issue with bullet points as you posted. The easier it is to read through without having to dig to find information, the better.

I only speak from personal experience though, other employers may want a fleshed out resume by the book. I don't think there are many of those anymore though.

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brestugo
08/25/19 5:34:39 PM
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Be advised that your resume will likely be scanned by a HR computer program before anyone ever sees it. Use the keywords of your industry to register 'hits' with the program. Also be sure to use language that promotes your 'KSAs' - Knowledge, Skills & Abilities.
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treewojima
08/25/19 5:50:30 PM
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The first line of your resume should be "Call me <full name>", and then launch into verbose prose about how you want to sail the world.
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Rika_Furude
08/25/19 5:52:58 PM
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You have to put in the bare minimum amount of effort to seem like you actually care about yourself and the position you apply for. Reducing your resume (and yourself) to dot points does not help.

Im speaking from experience. One job application, 1 interview, 1 followup interview, 1 job offer.
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Colorahdo
08/25/19 5:54:00 PM
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brestugo posted...
Be advised that your resume will likely be scanned by a HR computer program before anyone ever sees it. Use the keywords of your industry to register 'hits' with the program. Also be sure to use language that promotes your 'KSAs' - Knowledge, Skills & Abilities.


Not in my field. I usually meet the person hiring me beforehand, it's never a huge company

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brestugo
08/25/19 5:58:57 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
brestugo posted...
Be advised that your resume will likely be scanned by a HR computer program before anyone ever sees it. Use the keywords of your industry to register 'hits' with the program. Also be sure to use language that promotes your 'KSAs' - Knowledge, Skills & Abilities.


Not in my field. I usually meet the person hiring me beforehand, it's never a huge company

Ah, ok then. Good luck!
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No_U_L7
08/25/19 5:59:02 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
You have to put in the bare minimum amount of effort to seem like you actually care about yourself and the position you apply for. Reducing your resume (and yourself) to dot points does not help.

Im speaking from experience. One job application, 1 interview, 1 followup interview, 1 job offer.


so what you're saying is you have limited experience...? sample size of 1 means nothing

it's like guys who marry the first girl they fuck and think they're pick up gods/relationship experts lol

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Rika_Furude
08/25/19 10:36:41 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
You have to put in the bare minimum amount of effort to seem like you actually care about yourself and the position you apply for. Reducing your resume (and yourself) to dot points does not help.

Im speaking from experience. One job application, 1 interview, 1 followup interview, 1 job offer.


so what you're saying is you have limited experience...? sample size of 1 means nothing

it's like guys who marry the first girl they fuck and think they're pick up gods/relationship experts lol

A sample size of 30 from someone who didnt get a job < a sample size of 1 from someone who got the job on the first attempt

I bet you think its a good idea for criminals to share criminal advice in prison... as if thry were some master criminal who was never caught
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Rika_Furude
08/26/19 3:07:31 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
@No_U_L7 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
You have to put in the bare minimum amount of effort to seem like you actually care about yourself and the position you apply for. Reducing your resume (and yourself) to dot points does not help.

Im speaking from experience. One job application, 1 interview, 1 followup interview, 1 job offer.


so what you're saying is you have limited experience...? sample size of 1 means nothing

it's like guys who marry the first girl they fuck and think they're pick up gods/relationship experts lol

A sample size of 30 from someone who didnt get a job < a sample size of 1 from someone who got the job on the first attempt

I bet you think its a good idea for criminals to share criminal advice in prison... as if thry were some master criminal who was never caught

Also just to add to this, on the subject of job search advice, the advice of someone who currently has a job (me) is worth infinity times more than someone who is currently unemployed
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scar the 1
08/26/19 3:11:58 AM
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To be fair though Rika, someone who has only ever applied for (and gotten) one job should realize their limited experience with this. I agree that no one should take Scofield seriously though. But don't oversell your advice man
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Turtlebread
08/26/19 3:17:57 AM
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don't forget to put your gamefaqs karma on your resume
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Rika_Furude
08/26/19 3:24:48 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
To be fair though Rika, someone who has only ever applied for (and gotten) one job should realize their limited experience with this. I agree that no one should take Scofield seriously though. But don't oversell your advice man

Absolutely. Someone who has applied for and gotten more than one job has more experience and therefore better advice.
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gguirao
08/26/19 4:20:32 AM
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Somewhere in the middle. Don't be too detailed, but don't be too vague. Use language that is just sophisticated enough to show you know what you're talking about and are professional and serious about wanting the job.
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scar the 1
08/26/19 4:20:49 AM
#33:


On-topic, this really depends what kind of job you're looking for. Like, how serious is their recruitment, what documents are they expecting, etc? For example, a lot of jobs posted on LinkedIn will have just a button you click and then you automatically submit the CV you uploaded. Other jobs will have you filling out some web form with your skills, and yet others expect CV with cover letter. Depending on this, you can move around the verboseness a bit. Expectations will also vary between different professions. A general rule of thumb, though, is to keep each document one page maximum, and easily readable.

Googling CV and cover letter templates gives you a good starting point, then you just customize as needed for the job you're applying for.
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No_U_L7
08/26/19 11:49:12 AM
#34:


Rika_Furude posted...
A sample size of 30 from someone who didnt get a job < a sample size of 1 from someone who got the job on the first attempt

I bet you think its a good idea for criminals to share criminal advice in prison... as if thry were some master criminal who was never caught


how does that make any sense? i got called in for about 30/50 jobs i applied for. the job of the resume is only to get you into the interview....interviewing is an entirely different skill which this topic isn't about. FYI i got 4/30 of the jobs...over 13% of the jobs i applied for, and at the high level and competitive jobs i applied for, any recruiter will tell you that's a fantastic percentage

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No_U_L7
08/26/19 12:26:07 PM
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Oh yeah and I ended up canceling 3 interviews after accepting job offers...so 66% application to interview rate

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Rika_Furude
08/26/19 4:00:16 PM
#36:


Nobody believes you
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Lordgold666
08/26/19 5:22:10 PM
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Less is more
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No_U_L7
08/26/19 6:05:37 PM
#38:


Rika_Furude posted...
Nobody believes you


Lmao so when your entire argument crumbles you just default back to attacking the person? Really not that hard to admit youre wrong

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Rika_Furude
08/26/19 11:02:50 PM
#39:


No_U_L7 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Nobody believes you


Lmao so when your entire argument crumbles you just default back to attacking the person? Really not that hard to admit youre wrong

That wasnt an attack and youve failed to provide any sort of reasonable advice itt
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masticatingman
08/26/19 11:05:54 PM
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- If its not your first professional/career job, references only matter if you were recommended specifically by somebody.

- Start sentences with verbs.

And hopefully youre recommended. The one remnant of humanities in any form of business.
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No_U_L7
08/26/19 11:06:40 PM
#41:


Rika_Furude posted...
That wasnt an attack and youve failed to provide any sort of reasonable advice itt


everything i've posted is reasonable and is proven to be effective


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Rika_Furude
08/27/19 12:02:15 AM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
That wasnt an attack and youve failed to provide any sort of reasonable advice itt


everything i've posted is reasonable and is proven to be effective


Only on opposite day.
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