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StealthRock 08/08/19 2:03:12 PM #1: |
They are white supremacists. Fix that and we fix the problem
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FrozenXylophone 08/08/19 2:08:07 PM #2: |
Wasn't the Dayton Ohion shooter antifa albeit racist?
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Unsugarized_Foo 08/08/19 2:14:36 PM #4: |
Perfectly healthy, perfectly sane thing to do
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Were_Wyrm 08/08/19 2:15:27 PM #5: |
I would argue that white supremacists are mentally ill...
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Bishop9800 08/08/19 2:15:45 PM #6: |
Were_Wyrm posted...
I would argue that white supremacists are mentally ill... --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 08/08/19 2:16:13 PM #7: |
Were_Wyrm posted...
I would argue that white supremacists are mentally ill... Eh you'd be wrong tbh. --- Clean Butt Crew ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrozenXylophone 08/08/19 2:18:38 PM #8: |
Gilroy shooter also not a white supremacist.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/06/us/gilroy-festival-shooting/index.html The FBI has not made a conclusion as to his motivation, and the shooter left no manifesto, Bennett said. The gunman was exploring violent, competing ideologies, and "there was nothing that was all one-sided or the other," he said. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/01/media-wrong-gilroy-shooters-white-supremacy-ideology-fbi-says/1893490001/ SALINAS, Calif. FBI officials called media reports characterizing the Gilroy festival gunmans ideology wrong after outlets referenced a social media post and literature associated with white supremacists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pepys Monster 08/08/19 2:22:43 PM #9: |
Actually, they ARE mentally ill. Debate me.
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Tyranthraxus 08/08/19 2:24:45 PM #10: |
FrozenXylophone posted...
Wasn't the Dayton Ohion shooter antifa albeit racist?he's never done anything for Antifa but use the hashtag from his privileged ass safe at home. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 08/08/19 2:26:52 PM #11: |
If you pick up a gun and start shooting people you dislike or at places you dislike, you are not sane.
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mooreandrew58 08/08/19 2:27:16 PM #12: |
Were_Wyrm posted...
I would argue that white supremacists are mentally ill... This and anyone who even thinks its ok to go out and murder a bunch of people id argue is broke in the head. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mech dragon 08/08/19 2:31:55 PM #13: |
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FrozenXylophone 08/08/19 2:32:11 PM #14: |
Tbh I don't know all the shooters, someone should go down a list and see who was a white supremacist and who was not.
At least we know of the 3 that happened this month, only 1 was. That is 1/3 Then the big jarring shooting that stuck to our minds were not white supremacist ones. Elliot Rodgers - bitter incel manifesto about hating women Omar Mateen - closeted gay man Sandy hook - a pedophile according to FBI Then there were ones like woman who went to google hq and some business in Cali with disgruntled worker. This is important because pretending like solving white supremacy solves mass shooting is false, it is a lie, a scapegoat. We should stop white supremacy, but if you want to stop mass shootings something else has to be done as well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonStar 08/08/19 2:37:59 PM #15: |
https://www.apa.org/research/action/speaking-of-psychology/dispelling-myth
Recent mass shootings have inevitably led to news reports of the suspected shooters' mental health, but psychological research shows there is no clear link between mental illness and violence. In this episode, clinical and forensic psychologist Joel Dvoskin, PhD, talks about the misconceptions surrounding mental illness and violent behavior and how basic prevention efforts could help stop future violent events. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrozenXylophone 08/08/19 2:40:46 PM #16: |
I forgot about Parkland
Also not a white supremacist https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/florida-shooting-white-nationalists-415672
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FrozenXylophone 08/08/19 2:44:07 PM #17: |
CommonStar posted...
https://www.apa.org/research/action/speaking-of-psychology/dispelling-mythRecent mass shootings have inevitably led to news reports of the suspected shooters' mental health, but psychological research shows there is no clear link between mental illness and violence. In this episode, clinical and forensic psychologist Joel Dvoskin, PhD, talks about the misconceptions surrounding mental illness and violent behavior and how basic prevention efforts could help stop future violent events. It is odd how before 1968, the mentally ill could buy guns easily and yet not mass shootings. There was a few assassinations though and that is where control came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 08/08/19 3:57:35 PM #18: |
Pepys Monster posted...
Actually, they ARE mentally ill. Debate me. If white supremacists are mentally ill then we need to get them out ot law and government and stop them from getting guns --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 08/08/19 4:14:55 PM #19: |
some might be mentally ill but the ideology often plays a bigger role than that
you don't need to be crazy to kill people. you just need to believe you're doing the right thing. see: soldiers and revolutionaries --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonJoe 08/08/19 4:18:30 PM #20: |
CommonJoe posted...
The idea that someone who is capable of (and proceeds to commit) mass murder is not mentally ill is pretty laughable. White nationalism played its part in El Paso as well. Its not a one-note problem; there is no single solution. --- Tribalism is bad mkay. Shouldnt have to explain that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 08/08/19 4:22:16 PM #21: |
ThyCorndog posted...
some might be mentally ill but the ideology often plays a bigger role than that Soldiers is where I start to feel differently because often times left to their own dwvices they wouldnt go out killing just cause. They are told by someone who to kill. Most people join either because some sense of serving their country or because they desperately need a job/money. Most i know pray and hope no war starts up while they are in. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sunburst 08/08/19 4:22:49 PM #22: |
Some of them could be. Some could just be bad people. I think it's wrong to associate mental illness with mass shootings. It creates a negative stereotype for those suffering from mental illness. There are many different types of mental illness.
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ThyCorndog 08/08/19 4:24:44 PM #23: |
mooreandrew58 posted...
ThyCorndog posted...some might be mentally ill but the ideology often plays a bigger role than that I understand all of that. i'm saying humans are capable of violence (duh). and that you don't need to be crazy to kill someone else. humans have been killing each other for who knows how long. to dismissively call every mass shooter mentally ill and say that they must mentally ill because they killed people is just not true imo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pauIie 08/08/19 4:31:35 PM #24: |
Were_Wyrm posted...
I would argue that white supremacists are mentally ill... i'd say a lot of is learned/taught/conditioned --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 08/08/19 4:31:39 PM #25: |
ThyCorndog posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...ThyCorndog posted...some might be mentally ill but the ideology often plays a bigger role than that Isnt there some temporary mental illnesses? Im no expert on thr matter I admit but i figured mass killers either where broke from the start or something made em snap. I just feel they are a different class than other types of killers. Murderers usually have some reason why they want that specific person dead. To kill a bunch of random people is different. Despite what i said much earlier though I will say racism is either mental illness or a poor upbringing. To hate people for zero reason sounds mental to me but I know some can be cause they where just raised that way. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrToothHasYou 08/08/19 4:38:41 PM #26: |
I mean the Dayton shooter definitely seems to have been mentally ill, and that seems to have been a precipitating factor (albeit not the only one).
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Bad_Mojo 08/08/19 4:54:30 PM #27: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
i mean, there are a lot of different kinds of mental illness. if you have the capability within you to shoot and kill a bunch of people for whatever reason, there is most definitely something not right in your brain. but that doesn't mean that you can't be held responsible for your actions, or didn't know what you were doing, or are unfit to be prosecuted in a court of law. or that there are also other factors that led to you being able to do that, such as gun culture and white nationalism. I have to disagree. Humans have been killing other humans for our entire lives, and wasn't until very, very recently (in terms of the human history) that we have had this huge negative response to people that kill others. It's still human nature to want to kill others, it's just that thanks to modern society, we no longer have to do that, thus it becomes a taboo. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrozenXylophone 08/08/19 4:57:13 PM #28: |
Again...
Mental illness existed before 1968. Gun control as we know it did not. How can mental illness be the issue then? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Banjo2553 08/08/19 5:10:34 PM #29: |
Implying white supremacy isn't because of mental illness.
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justaguy3492 08/08/19 5:13:50 PM #30: |
Hate isn't a mental illness.
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Banjo2553 08/08/19 5:15:09 PM #31: |
justaguy3492 posted...
Hate isn't a mental illness. Hate is normal. Using it to kill people is not. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 08/08/19 5:15:55 PM #32: |
"Mental Illness" is just an excuse to move the discussion away from gun control(At which point they'll continue to do nothing regarding healthcare).
But yes, we absolutely need to call these people what they are. Evil. One had to be sick in the head to be willing to gun down a bunch of innocent people, but that doesn't mean they're mentality ill in a medical sense. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 08/08/19 5:23:56 PM #33: |
Some are mentally ill, some aren't.
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PrettyBoyFloyd 08/08/19 5:32:56 PM #34: |
Funny how when a white person does these things they're a "supremacist".
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StealthRock 08/08/19 6:26:10 PM #35: |
Banjo2553 posted...
Implying white supremacy isn't because of mental illness. It is So get them away from guns and law enforcement --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 08/08/19 6:26:47 PM #36: |
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Funny how when a white person does these things they're a "supremacist". not every white mass shooter is a supremacist. the new zealand and el paso shooters are self avowed supremacists --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 08/08/19 6:26:56 PM #37: |
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Funny how when a white person does these things they're a "supremacist". Said no one ever --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/08/19 6:28:30 PM #38: |
I don't believe in evil. I think there is something fundamentally wrong with anyone who can commit evil without remorse.
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/08/19 6:39:25 PM #39: |
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Funny how when a white person does these things they're a "supremacist". if I were to set that straw man on fire, would the flames eventually reach the ass where they're manufactured? --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 08/08/19 6:46:52 PM #40: |
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Funny how when a white person does these things they're a "supremacist". No one has ever claimed this. Try better bait next time. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_OD 08/08/19 7:08:17 PM #41: |
Give the parents the power back to discipline kids, get rid of the damn gun free zones, and safe spaces, and a lot of this shit will stop. Teach kids right from wrong, and parents disciple their kids and not be "friends"
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/08/19 7:17:09 PM #42: |
if parents were allowed to discipline kids, it would lower the amount of kids who end up locked up. that means less money for the state, and states war with the federal government over shit like that.
so... no. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 08/08/19 7:18:00 PM #43: |
The_OD posted...
Give the parents the power back to discipline kids, get rid of the damn gun free zones, and safe spaces, and a lot of this shit will stop. Teach kids right from wrong, and parents disciple their kids and not be "friends" This is a white supremacy issue. Not a parenting issue --- Pokemon is awesome ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StucklnMyPants 08/08/19 7:18:48 PM #44: |
FrozenXylophone posted...
Gilroy shooter also not a white supremacist.That's not going to stop people on here with the narrative they want to push, especially when feelings are more important than facts. --- Power concedes nothing without a demand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 08/08/19 7:20:05 PM #45: |
Lol the issue isnt parents not beating the white supremacy out of their kids
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hockeybub89 08/08/19 7:21:27 PM #46: |
The_OD posted...
Give the parents the power back to discipline kids, get rid of the damn gun free zones, and safe spaces, and a lot of this shit will stop. Teach kids right from wrong, and parents disciple their kids and not be "friends" Do we have proof that most mass shooters participated in or lacked those things? Or is this straight out of your ass? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/08/19 7:23:39 PM #47: |
StucklnMyPants posted...
FrozenXylophone posted...Gilroy shooter also not a white supremacist.That's not going to stop people on here with the narrative they want to push, especially when feelings are more important than facts. Well I guess we can ignore the alt-right and white supremacy since sometimes mass shooters aren't political terrorists. Just mentally ill people who we have no way of preventing. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 08/08/19 7:23:43 PM #48: |
all mass shooters are mentally ill
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Antifar 08/08/19 7:23:43 PM #49: |
The_OD posted...
Give the parents the power back to discipline kids, get rid of the damn gun free zones, and safe spaces, and a lot of this shit will stop. Teach kids right from wrong, and parents disciple their kids and not be "friends" Note: the "discipline" you are referring to makes kids more violent and antisocial https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/health/spanking-dating-violence-study/index.html https://www.aafp.org/afp/1998/0215/p798.html --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 08/08/19 7:40:50 PM #50: |
OctilIery posted...
Some are mentally ill, some aren't. This and everything else is drastically overreaching --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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