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YokoGeri
07/21/19 12:20:13 PM
#101:


Grischnak posted...
They are really going to have to pull some bullshit out of their asses to justify her being worthy.


she is an empowered womyn, she doesn't need no judgment from a hammer with a spell from a privileged shitlord like odin. She is worthy because she is a womyn and she is a fighter, damnit!
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Shablagoo
07/21/19 12:28:00 PM
#102:


Portman coming back holds true to the comics which happened just a few years ago.

Female Thor shows up out of nowhere and nobody knows who she is, but you find out that it's Jane Foster and she has cancer. So for this to be announced and to hear that the original Jane Foster who had a pretty small role in the first Thor movie, coming back to become female Thor, is just insanity. (In an awesome way, I mean.)
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Skye Reynolds
07/21/19 12:34:34 PM
#103:


Could you imagine the outrage if the film were called Lady Thor?

There be many a heart attack among the far-left and far-right alike.
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The_Ivory_Man
07/21/19 2:51:11 PM
#104:


GeneralKenobi85 posted...
For real though, Beta Ray Bill better be in this fucking movie.


No way he will be if they go through with Lady Thor.

I don't understand why you wouldn't adapt the acclaimed Walt Simonson run and instead do something like this.
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CommonJoe
07/21/19 2:52:39 PM
#105:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
No way he will be if they go through with Lady Thor.


Based on what exactly?

Zero reason they cant do both.
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kkTheKiller42
07/21/19 3:00:14 PM
#106:


I want to see the meltdown when people find out about riri williams, a 15 year old black girl who is iron man now and is smarter than tony
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YokoGeri
07/21/19 3:04:41 PM
#107:


kkTheKiller42 posted...
I want to see the meltdown when people find out about riri williams, a 15 year old black girl who is iron man now and is smarter than tony


@kkTheKiller42 wouldn't you agree that's shit storytelling?
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The_Ivory_Man
07/21/19 3:05:06 PM
#108:


CommonJoe posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
No way he will be if they go through with Lady Thor.


Based on what exactly?

Zero reason they cant do both.


How would Beta Ray Bill work with Lady Thor?

Thor was stunned someone else could lift Mjolnir and realizes how great he is and becomes such Bros with him that he makes get his own lesser hammer in Stormbreaker. Thor sees an equal there.

He was someone who had grudges with Thor's villains as well, with Surtur being the reason he lost his people.

Lady Thor is an Earthling that reduced Thor into a whiny squabbling child while she shows not her morals, but instead how much better she is than Thor with new tricks he could never preform while they are placed against each other to show her superiority.

Unless you want to change her completely, but at that point why use her?
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CommonJoe
07/21/19 3:06:19 PM
#109:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
How would Beta Ray Bill work with Lady Thor?

Thor was stunned someone else could lift Mjolnir and realizes how great he is and becomes such Bros with him that he makes get his own lesser hammer in Stormbreaker. Thor sees an equal there.

He was someone who had grudges with Thor's villains as well, with Surtur being the reason he lost his people.

Lady Thor is an Earthling that reduced Thor into a whiny squabbling child while she shows not her morals, but instead how much better she is than Thor with new tricks he could never preform while they are placed against each other to show her superiority.

Unless you want to change her completely, but at that point why use her?


Why would any of this be relevant to how they opt to portray either character in the MCU?

Bill is a Thor character. They can use him however they want.
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kkTheKiller42
07/21/19 3:06:48 PM
#110:


Well yes, but I still want to see a meltdown. Imo, i dont see why they couldnt just give her own identity, but nah, marvel went and said she's iron man now and is smarter than one of the top tier intellects in marvel.
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The_Ivory_Man
07/21/19 3:10:46 PM
#111:


CommonJoe posted...
Why would any of this be relevant to how they opt to portray either character in the MCU?

Bill is a Thor character. They can use him however they want.


So "but they can do anything want and don't have to make anything like the comics" is the argument?

So why bother adapting anything?
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CommonJoe
07/21/19 3:11:44 PM
#112:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
So "but they can do anything want and don't have to make anything like the comics" is the argument?

So why bother adapting anything?


Was Ragnarok or Civil War even remotely anything like their respective Comic versions?

No? Then stfu.

If they arent fundamentally changing who these characters are to the point that they may as well be called something new, then there is no reason they cant change how theyre introduced or used.
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NinjaBreakfast
07/21/19 3:22:21 PM
#113:


a cursory glance at the most famous BRB storylines shows plenty of the stuff has already been adapted or used in another way in existing thor films fwiw.

they probably will throw him in just to fuck with people. maybe there's multiple thors for multiple areas now or some shit idk. the team behind it is good so it will probably be good.
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StealthRock
07/21/19 3:23:10 PM
#114:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
I have no idea why would anybody would write this off at this point given how good ragnarok was


Because of the time that we are in, i feel like instead of just getting a funny, strong female thor, we will get yet another sjw mouthpiece. Her only selling point being that "shes female"!!
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CommonJoe
07/21/19 3:24:17 PM
#115:


StealthRock posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
I have no idea why would anybody would write this off at this point given how good ragnarok was


Because of the time that we are in, i feel like instead of just getting a funny, strong female thor, we will get yet another sjw mouthpiece. Her only selling point being that "shes female"!!


Taika isnt that kind of director.
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NinjaBreakfast
07/21/19 3:25:10 PM
#116:


literally anybody is that 'kind of director' in the eyes of the culture war addled MRA types online
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StealthRock
07/21/19 3:28:44 PM
#117:


kkTheKiller42 posted...
I want to see the meltdown when people find out about riri williams, a 15 year old black girl who is iron man now and is smarter than tony

Im a black man and i think that its bullshit

No reason for them to do that. Why not just make her her own character?
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Makeveli_lives
07/21/19 4:02:29 PM
#118:


Annihilated posted...
Didn't she rage quit the MCU because of some director or something? And now after they tried to write around her so many times she wants to step in and be Lady Thor? lol

She had a good reason. Shooting would've been directly after she had a kid (like less then 6 months I think), and she initially agreed to reprise because a female director was attached to the second film. Otherwise between filming and promoting, she'd rather not commit to it instead of being around her newborn baby for however many months. Marvel changed directors after the contract was signed and she was legally obligated to see it through, which she did. I don't think there's anything nefarious about it but she got bamboozled a bit by marvel, had every right to be upset about it.
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Makeveli_lives
07/21/19 4:05:41 PM
#119:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Kastrada posted...
I mean it happened in the comic books. So what will the argument against it be this time?

Mjolnir doesnt exist anymore.

Yes it does it was in endgame. Or did you not remember the huge pop when captain America picked it up in the movie.
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CommonJoe
07/21/19 4:07:26 PM
#120:


Makeveli_lives posted...
ViewtifulGrave posted...
Kastrada posted...
I mean it happened in the comic books. So what will the argument against it be this time?

Mjolnir doesnt exist anymore.

Yes it does it was in endgame. Or did you not remember the huge pop when captain America picked it up in the movie.


Do you remember about 30 minutes later when its sent back in time?
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EbonTitanium
07/21/19 4:21:01 PM
#121:


StealthRock posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
I want to see the meltdown when people find out about riri williams, a 15 year old black girl who is iron man now and is smarter than tony

Im a black man and i think that its bullshit

No reason for them to do that. Why not just make her her own character?

Ironheart. I believe she is her own character now, more or less.
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Extreme_light
07/21/19 4:21:56 PM
#122:


They can finally redeem that character at least. Also more "No more PC/SJWs!" tears for me.
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Extreme_light
07/21/19 4:24:11 PM
#123:


StealthRock posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
I want to see the meltdown when people find out about riri williams, a 15 year old black girl who is iron man now and is smarter than tony

Im a black man and i think that its bullshit

No reason for them to do that. Why not just make her her own character?


She is her own character. She was introduced through Iron Man ala Miles with Peter.

And Shuri in the MCU was already smarter than Iron Man lol.
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The_Ivory_Man
07/21/19 5:14:41 PM
#124:


CommonJoe posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
So "but they can do anything want and don't have to make anything like the comics" is the argument?

So why bother adapting anything?


Was Ragnarok or Civil War even remotely anything like their respective Comic versions?

No? Then stfu.

If they arent fundamentally changing who these characters are to the point that they may as well be called something new, then there is no reason they cant change how theyre introduced or used.


So why be excited at all if she won't be anything like the comics?

Assuming you are a fan of it.
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CommonJoe
07/21/19 5:17:59 PM
#125:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
So why be excited at all if she won't be anything like the comics?


May be because the MCU is (and always was) its own thing now and will deliver a great product regardless of how whether it translates the source material 1:1 or changes it.
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The_Ivory_Man
07/21/19 5:20:55 PM
#126:


CommonJoe posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
So why be excited at all if she won't be anything like the comics?


May be because the MCU is (and always was) its own thing now and will deliver a great product regardless of how whether it translates the source material 1:1 or changes it.


So we should be excited when Marvel decided to adapt One More Day because they will make it good?
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Bluharvest
07/21/19 6:11:19 PM
#127:


Didn't she refuse to act in any Thor movies after 2
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slmcknett
07/21/19 6:15:25 PM
#128:


Taika Waititi is directing. So it doesn't matter if you didn't like Natalie Portman before -- he'll make sure she's good here.
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Darmik
07/21/19 6:34:38 PM
#129:


I'm interested to see how all of this goes down. It still sounds like Chris Hemsworth is the lead so this movie must be about him passing on Mjolnir. An interesting build on his character after Ragnarok which was all about finding his identity without it now it's going to be about someone else taking it on.

The cool thing about this next phase is that I have no real idea what any of these movies will be like outside of Blade. Even then I'm not sure how hard they will delve into the horror aspect.
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meestermj
07/21/19 6:36:22 PM
#130:


The comics were terrible, mostly due to terrible writing.

Hopefully the movie does better.
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50Blessings
07/21/19 6:40:52 PM
#131:


Bluharvest posted...
Didn't she refuse to act in any Thor movies after 2


Yeah but then Annihilation bombed.
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Darmik
07/21/19 6:42:42 PM
#132:


Tbh I think Lady Thor would have been one of the only things that would have brought Portman back.

That or massive piles of money.
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Kastrada
07/21/19 6:44:04 PM
#133:


Bluharvest posted...
Didn't she refuse to act in any Thor movies after 2


As has already been pointed out, she was signed on for a few movies and the director she helped to get hired (who directed Wonder Woman) was unceremoniously fired with no real reason given. So she just decided not to re-up her contract when it expired.
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thanosibe
07/21/19 7:39:36 PM
#134:


CommonJoe posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
So why be excited at all if she won't be anything like the comics?


May be because the MCU is (and always was) its own thing now and will deliver a great product regardless of how whether it translates the source material 1:1 or changes it.
Actually since its the MCU it will be the exact same formulaistic movie that theyve all been in yet last decade and the 90% casual movie goer will eat it up and continue the cycle.

Imagine thinking any MCU movie is unique in of itself.
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meestermj
07/21/19 7:44:43 PM
#135:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
So why be excited at all if she won't be anything like the comics?

meestermj posted...
The comics were terrible, mostly due to terrible writing.

Hopefully the movie does better.

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kkTheKiller42
07/21/19 8:21:45 PM
#136:


Extreme_light posted...
StealthRock posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
I want to see the meltdown when people find out about riri williams, a 15 year old black girl who is iron man now and is smarter than tony

Im a black man and i think that its bullshit

No reason for them to do that. Why not just make her her own character?


She is her own character. She was introduced through Iron Man ala Miles with Peter.

And Shuri in the MCU was already smarter than Iron Man lol.

Good to hear she's her own character now, when I first heard about riri I was under the impression they were straight up replacing tony with her.

Also Shuri being smarter than Tony is also bs. Dude figured out time travel and created vision, but shuri is somehow smarter just cuz she figured out how to remove the mind stone from vision?
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LightningAce11
07/21/19 8:24:01 PM
#137:


Shuri does live in a society that is 200 years more advanced than any other on earth, so she has the advantage there.
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Esrac
07/21/19 8:26:25 PM
#138:


kkTheKiller42 posted...
Extreme_light posted...
StealthRock posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
I want to see the meltdown when people find out about riri williams, a 15 year old black girl who is iron man now and is smarter than tony

Im a black man and i think that its bullshit

No reason for them to do that. Why not just make her her own character?


She is her own character. She was introduced through Iron Man ala Miles with Peter.

And Shuri in the MCU was already smarter than Iron Man lol.

Good to hear she's her own character now, when I first heard about riri I was under the impression they were straight up replacing tony with her.

Also Shuri being smarter than Tony is also bs. Dude figured out time travel and created vision, but shuri is somehow smarter just cuz she figured out how to remove the mind stone from vision?


They did replace Tony with her, in the sense that a number of their white, male main characters were sidelined and replaced with a more diverse cast.

Steve Rogers turned evil (kinda) and was replaced by Sam Wilson, Thor was rended unworthy and replaced by Jane Foster, Bruce Banner was killed and replaced by Amadeus Cho, Tony Stark was put in a coma and replaced with Riri Williams, etc.
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