Current Events > Twilight Princess is better than Ocarina of Time (imo of course)

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Don't @ me
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Nah
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It coulda been without the wolf shit and the villain being a dweeb
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I agree.

I agree. Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda game.
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I'm glad most people these days see TP for the soulless empty game that it is

Midna is the only redeeming aspect of it, she's probably the best and most fleshed out Zelda character. But she doesn't make up for that horrible overworld and some of the worst dungeon items in the series
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Iunno how someone can accuse TPs overworld of being soulless and dull while giving a pass to Hyrule Field in OoT
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ultimate reaver posted...

I'm glad most people these days see TP for the soulless empty game that it is

Midna is the only redeeming aspect of it, she's probably the best and most fleshed out Zelda character. But she doesn't make up for that horrible overworld and some of the worst dungeon items in the series

The spinner, ball and chain, and double claw shots were great. I guess you could say they weren't well utilized outside of their dungeons though.
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TP was fine the first time around, but I can't ever get back into it when I try to replay it. I've beaten OOT several times.

And yeah we needed more of that spinner thing in TP. That was awesome.
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Usually you have good takes, but I can't countenance this.

Granted, TP gave me photosensitive headaches, so I wasn't properly able to appreciate whatever merit it had.
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yikes
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Twilight Princess' overworld is at least like 10x bigger than OoT's, maybe more, and somehow has less secrets and stuff in it for you to find comparative to that game. It feels like they made it humongous for no other reason than they wanted you to use Epona more, but there's nothing fun to actually do with her except ride in circles and clumsily hit moblins

The spinner, ball and chain, and double claw shots were great. I guess you could say they weren't well utilized outside of their dungeons though.

That's the other big problem with Twilight Princess. Stuff you found in a dungeon was basically useful in that dungeon and then maybe 1-2 other places in the game at most. Usually nothing more than getting you a heart piece somewhere.

TP has so many cool ideas but it falls on its face every chance it gets
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Hairistotle posted...

ocarina's is a million times smaller so it's not as much of a problem

Not a lot of stuff to do in OoT Hryule Field compared to TP, though.

In OoT Hyrule Field all there is to do is collect two heart pieces, two skulltulas, and ten poes.

Doom_Art posted...

Iunno how someone can accuse TPs overworld of being soulless and dull while giving a pass to Hyrule Field in OoT

OoT can at least say it was the first 3D overworld in the series
TP has no such excuse
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I agree

It has some issues but the dungeons and bosses are excellent
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Remember 8.8?

https://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/blast-from-the-past-the-crazy-reactions-to-88-523214/
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fuck your imo
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Doom_Art posted...

Iunno how someone can accuse TPs overworld of being soulless and dull while giving a pass to Hyrule Field in OoT

Thank you. Something I've always said all this time.
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To me, OOT is better for being more distilled and definitive. Having the three core characters at the center without Midna, and how it uses the series's iconography more in the narrative.
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The dungeons in TP are excellent, at least in design. Ill give it that.
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TP's problem was all the filler. It was OoT with a bunch of unfun shit filling the gaps, in order to extend playtime.

Also, a simple puzzle with comedic animation is the lead up to the fucking Master Sword? My hypedick nearly went 2d with flaccidity.
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I hated TP the first two times I tried it. Some months back, I finally played through the entire game, and while I can't say I still hate it, it's probably my least favorite 3D Zelda. I really enjoyed Arbiter's Grounds and Snowpeak Ruins, but not much else. The wolf gameplay in particular was something that never grew on me.
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I remember basically nothing from TP.

It was such an ugly game that felt like a chore to play.

Wind Waker will always be the best 3D Zelda

Nah. But at least everyone here can agree that Skyward Sword is objectively the worst
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Nah. But at least everyone here can agree that Skyward Sword is objectively the worst

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I wish they added a hard mode to the vanilla TP. Dying in that game was ridiculously hard even if you tried.
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In some ways, yes, in others, no. Overall, maybe, but I'm leaning a bit more towards no, considering OoT's gameplay mechanics and design was more innovative than TP's for the time it was made. TP is still a pretty great LoZ game and probably has the most fleshed out swordplay in the entire series when it comes to 3D Zelda games, considering it is more fleshed out than it is in BotW, even though BotW has more weapon types and ways to engage in combat. I just wish TP was more challenging when it came to enemy AI and especially most bosses as they are way too easy.
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YellowSUV posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Nah. But at least everyone here can agree that Skyward Sword is objectively the worst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMYgcS53Ezk" data-time="

No, SS really is the worst traditional 3D console Zelda. Not counting the old outsourced "games" of course.
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Prismsblade posted...

I wish they added a hard mode to the vanilla TP. Dying in that game was ridiculously hard even if you tried.

Agreed. However, In the HD remaster you have Hero Mode, and can use the Ganondorf amiibo to take up to 4x damage which can definitely make the game much more unforgiving and make some early battles much more difficult, but still it doesn't make up for the somewhat lackluster enemy AI most of the time. They telegraph far too much sometimes and once you know a enemy's / boss' pattern it's pretty easy to take them down as long as they don't have additional help, etc. I just wish Hero Mode didn't automatically mirror the game world and that that was a separate option.
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I agree just on that I loved the combat and visuals. For whatever reason OoT is more memorable though. But it was my first.
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...

I agree. Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda game.

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