Current Events > leaked memos from the UK ambassadors office calls trump administration 'inept'

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Parappa09
07/07/19 11:48:03 AM
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The government has begun an inquiry into a leak of emails from the UK ambassador in Washington which deemed the Trump administration "inept".

It comes after chairman of the foreign affairs select committee Tom Tugendhat said whoever was responsible must be prosecuted. The Foreign Office said the leak to the Mail on Sunday was "mischievous", but did not deny the accuracy of the memos.

The White House has yet to respond to the memos' contents.

In the messages, the UK's ambassador Sir Kim Darroch said the White House was "uniquely dysfunctional" and "divided" under Donald Trump. "We don't really believe this administration is going to become substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable; less faction-riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept," he said.

He questioned whether this White House "will ever look competent" but also warned the US president should not be written off. The job of the UK's ambassador is "to represent the interests and wishes of the British people" and not "the sensibilities of the United States", he said.

Although Sir Kim said Mr Trump was "dazzled" by his state visit to the UK in June, the ambassador warned that his administration will remain self-interested, adding: "This is still the land of America First".

Differences between the US and the UK on climate change, media freedoms and the death penalty might come to the fore as the countries seek to improve trading relations after Brexit, the memos said.

However, Justice Secretary David Gauke said it was very important that ambassadors gave "honest and unvarnished advice to their country".

He said: "It is disgraceful that it's been leaked, but we should expect our ambassadors to tell the truth, as they see it."

In a message sent last month, Sir Kim branded US policy on Iran as "incoherent, chaotic". Mr Trump's publicly stated reason for calling off an airstrike against Tehran with 10 minutes to go - that it would cause 150 casualties - "doesn't stand up", Sir Kim said.

Instead, he suggested the president was "never fully on board" and did not want to reverse his campaign promise not to involve the US in foreign conflicts.

To get through to the president, "you need to make your points simple, even blunt", he said.


read full story here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48901624
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slimjimfizzle
07/07/19 11:56:54 AM
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Tug end hat
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ZeroKelvin
07/07/19 11:57:52 AM
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Well theyre not wrong
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Phantom_Nook
07/07/19 12:10:39 PM
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No lies detected.
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YourDrunkFather
07/07/19 12:11:56 PM
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When theyre right, theyre right
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Blue_Inigo
07/07/19 12:15:58 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
No lies detected.

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Hanky_Bannister
07/07/19 12:21:12 PM
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ZeroKelvin posted...
Well theyre not wrong

Phantom_Nook posted...
No lies detected.

YourDrunkFather posted...
When theyre right, theyre right


and i love this part:

Parappa09 posted...
White House was "uniquely dysfunctional" and "divided" under Donald Trump

Drain the swamp??
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Thompson
07/07/19 12:23:26 PM
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The UK ambassador telling like it is.
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0xDEFECADE
07/07/19 12:24:18 PM
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"uniquely dysfunctional". that's great
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Rusty_Shacklefo
07/07/19 12:34:01 PM
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That's rich coming from the UK
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SauI_Goodman
07/07/19 12:35:03 PM
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His name is Kim. Next!
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Vyrulisse
07/07/19 12:36:17 PM
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This isn't news, this is well known but should the UK really be talking about ineptitude? I dunno...
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Tyranthraxus
07/07/19 12:37:36 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
This isn't news, this is well known but should the UK really be talking about ineptitude? I dunno...

Hot centrist take
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treewojima
07/07/19 12:37:44 PM
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"don't point out our fucked up government, you're fucked up too"
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Vyrulisse
07/07/19 12:38:44 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
This isn't news, this is well known but should the UK really be talking about ineptitude? I dunno...

Hot centrist take

Not particularly hot. It's known that this administration is inept. I don't understand your silly point.
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alimajor
07/07/19 12:38:53 PM
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Don't criticize when your own house isn't in order
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Parappa09
07/07/19 12:46:31 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
This isn't news, this is well known but should the UK really be talking about ineptitude? I dunno...

i mean at least let boris johnson become the PM first

then you'll see the full wrath of our ineptitude
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hockeybub89
07/07/19 12:47:31 PM
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1NfamousACE_2
07/07/19 12:47:53 PM
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Literally still mad about 1776

Get over it
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Broseph_Stalin
07/07/19 12:48:37 PM
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guys we can both have inept right-wing governments we voted for because of our irrational hatred of anything foreign, it's not a competition.
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Manocheese
07/07/19 12:50:35 PM
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Parappa09 posted...
Although Sir Kim said Mr Trump was "dazzled" by his state visit to the UK in June, the ambassador warned that his administration will remain self-interested, adding: "This is still the land of America First".

Thanks for the vote of confidence, guv'nor!
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Parappa09
07/07/19 12:51:48 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
guys we can both have inept right-wing governments we voted for because of our irrational hatred of anything foreign, it's not a competition.

it's like a game of who can fuck up a country the fastest
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treewojima
07/07/19 12:56:41 PM
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Parappa09 posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
guys we can both have inept right-wing governments we voted for because of our irrational hatred of anything foreign, it's not a competition.

it's like a game of who can fuck up a country the fastest


don't make us dump all your tea in the harbor again

we'll fucking do it, I swear to Christ
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DeadBankerDream
07/07/19 1:12:01 PM
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Look at the dumbos in this thread who thinks "lol ur government isnt perfect!" is valid critique of an ambassador's criticism of the trump administration.

Maybe if you could go "yeah but your government is an evil dictatorship ruled by an insane madman our president loves and wants to lick the butt of" you'd have a point, but without that extra oompf you're just a child who cant handle criticism.
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TheRealDill2000
07/07/19 1:12:25 PM
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We need to do something about this. They shouldn't be able to freely insult our leader.
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Hanky_Bannister
07/07/19 1:14:16 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
We need to do something about this. They shouldn't be able to freely insult our leader.

nobody bites anymore, why do you continue?
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Machete
07/07/19 1:21:00 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
We need to do something about this. They shouldn't be able to freely insult our leader.


^fart
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Parappa09
07/07/19 1:33:27 PM
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treewojima posted...
don't make us dump all your tea in the harbor again

we'll fucking do it, I swear to Christ

that's proper offensive m8, i would advise against that
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BLAKUboy
07/07/19 1:37:54 PM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
nobody bites anymore, why do you continue?

He said, taking the bait.
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