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Yao 07/02/19 6:42:59 PM #1:	Why don't the obese on their third 100,000 dollar bypass get lectured and treated like garbage? Why isn't the person with a fractured leg from a very dangerous hobby left to suffer for hours on a gurney with no pillow in a room with a camera? Why aren't people with stints and heart transplants from decades of eating badly eventually told not to come back until they fix themselves? Why do heroin users get methadone clinics? Why do people with an STD get a chuckle and joke from the MD about wrapping it up and we get treated like we personally offended the doctor? Why is it easier for a smoker to get a lung transplant than to get a liver transplant? Half the people in the hospital are there because of bad choices. But alcoholics are the bad people who get 2 or 3 chances then it's out on the street, not even a handful of librium. Why in 2019 does everyone just say to alcoholics go sit in a room with bad coffee and heavy smokers and tell drinking stories and cry for an hour. I mean what the shit people. <cite>Yao posted [p:924160600] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>Why don't the obese on their third 100,000 dollar bypass get lectured and treated like garbage? Why isn't the person with a fractured leg from a very dangerous hobby left to suffer for hours on a gurney with no pillow in a room with a camera? Why aren't people with stints and heart transplants from decades of eating badly eventually told not to come back until they fix themselves? Why do heroin users get methadone clinics? Why do people with an STD get a chuckle and joke from the MD about wrapping it up and we get treated like we personally offended the doctor? Why is it easier for a smoker to get a lung transplant than to get a liver transplant? Half the people in the hospital are there because of bad choices. But alcoholics are the bad people who get 2 or 3 chances then it's out on the street, not even a handful of librium. Why in 2019 does everyone just say to alcoholics go sit in a room with bad coffee and heavy smokers and tell drinking stories and cry for an hour. I mean what the shit people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abiz_ 07/02/19 6:50:17 PM #2:	What caused you to have this reaction? <cite>Abiz_ posted [p:924160897] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>What caused you to have this reaction?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/02/19 6:52:10 PM #3:	What fucking room were you allowed to go in where you can smoke? nvm you're probly talking about AA meetings. Would be nice to smoke in a hospital though. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:924160963] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>What fucking room were you allowed to go in where you can smoke? nvm you're probly talking about AA meetings. Would be nice to smoke in a hospital though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yao 07/02/19 8:30:42 PM #4:	Abiz_ posted... What caused you to have this reaction? It's how alcoholics are treated isnt CE all about social justice well let's get upset then cmon m'lads <cite>Yao posted [p:924165041] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abiz_ posted...</cite> <quote>What caused you to have this reaction?</quote> It's how alcoholics are treated isnt CE all about social justice well let's get upset then cmon m'lads</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 07/02/19 8:32:53 PM #5:	This is obviously a trolling account but the first post does bring up a good point. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:924165131] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>This is obviously a trolling account but the first post does bring up a good point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yao 07/02/19 8:34:50 PM #6:	DarkChozoGhost posted... This is obviously a trolling account but the first post does bring up a good point. Its not a trolling account and thank you the topic is serious, my points are all valid which is why CE eont actually take any part in a serious discussion <cite>Yao posted [p:924165210] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>This is obviously a trolling account but the first post does bring up a good point.</quote> Its not a trolling account and thank you the topic is serious, my points are all valid which is why CE eont actually take any part in a serious discussion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 8:48:02 AM #7:	We don't treat alcoholics any differently than anyone else with substance abuse problems. It's a mental illness and should be respected and treated as such. If you're talking about people going into EtOH withdrawals, that has more to do with the seriousness of delirium tremens. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924231355] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>We don't treat alcoholics any differently than anyone else with substance abuse problems. It's a mental illness and should be respected and treated as such. If you're talking about people going into EtOH withdrawals, that has more to do with the seriousness of delirium tremens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 07/04/19 8:52:42 AM #8:	what's your basis for saying they get treated worse than other people with substance abuse problems? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:924231451] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>what's your basis for saying they get treated worse than other people with substance abuse problems?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DK9292 07/04/19 8:55:14 AM #9:	Fam_Fam posted... what's your basis for saying they get treated worse than other people with substance abuse problems? From my experience with alcoholics? He didn't get his way and is playing the victim card. Have you noticed his post is essentially "everyone else should be treated as badly as alcoholics" rather than wanting better treatment? --- A hero's role is one that cannot be forsaken, Caring for those with hearts that are breaking. <cite>DK9292 posted [p:924231522] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>what's your basis for saying they get treated worse than other people with substance abuse problems?</quote> From my experience with alcoholics? He didn't get his way and is playing the victim card. Have you noticed his post is essentially "everyone else should be treated as badly as alcoholics" rather than wanting better treatment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 07/04/19 10:12:06 AM #10:	Its an issue that goes with homelessness/being destitute in this case. Theyre one of a few groups that are easy to identify within the hospital system as probably not being able to pay any bills. So theyre rushed out of hospitals ASAP so they dont hog bed space. --- Raised on VHS, anchored to DVD <cite>masticatingman posted [p:924233388] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>Its an issue that goes with homelessness/being destitute in this case. Theyre one of a few groups that are easy to identify within the hospital system as probably not being able to pay any bills. So theyre rushed out of hospitals ASAP so they dont hog bed space.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 10:13:18 AM #11:	masticatingman posted... Its an issue that goes with homelessness/being destitute in this case. Theyre one of a few groups that are easy to identify within the hospital system as probably not being able to pay any bills. So theyre rushed out of hospitals ASAP so they dont hog bed space. This is not how hospitals work --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924233429] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>masticatingman posted...</cite> <quote>Its an issue that goes with homelessness/being destitute in this case. Theyre one of a few groups that are easy to identify within the hospital system as probably not being able to pay any bills. So theyre rushed out of hospitals ASAP so they dont hog bed space.</quote> This is not how hospitals work</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/04/19 10:13:27 AM #12:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... What fucking room were you allowed to go in where you can smoke? actually in my area they stopped letting you smoke inside at meetings --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924233435] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote>What fucking room were you allowed to go in where you can smoke?</quote> actually in my area they stopped letting you smoke inside at meetings</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobbaaay 07/04/19 10:22:39 AM #13:	TC is literally that meme with Jim Carrey come to life. <cite>bobbaaay posted [p:924233686] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>TC is literally that meme with Jim Carrey come to life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobbaaay 07/04/19 10:27:01 AM #14:	https://i.redd.it/7fbus9jbcim21.jpg <cite>bobbaaay posted [p:924233806] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/7fbus9jbcim21.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/04/19 10:36:03 AM #15:	bobbaaay posted... https://i.redd.it/7fbus9jbcim21.jpg I dunno, seems more it's calling out the people in charge not the dope addicts tbh --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924234027] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>bobbaaay posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/7fbus9jbcim21.jpg</quote> I dunno, seems more it's calling out the people in charge not the dope addicts tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 10:38:01 AM #16:	0xDEFECADE posted... bobbaaay posted... https://i.redd.it/7fbus9jbcim21.jpg I dunno, seems more it's calling out the people in charge not the dope addicts tbh They're not the ones that made insulin $750 Narcan is "free" because even at full price it's like $35 --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924234072] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bobbaaay posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/7fbus9jbcim21.jpg</quote> I dunno, seems more it's calling out the people in charge not the dope addicts tbh</quote> They're not the ones that made insulin $750 Narcan is "free" because even at full price it's like $35</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobbaaay 07/04/19 10:40:06 AM #17:	DarkRoast posted... 0xDEFECADE posted... bobbaaay posted... https://i.redd.it/7fbus9jbcim21.jpg I dunno, seems more it's calling out the people in charge not the dope addicts tbh They're not the ones that made insulin $750 Exactly. This meme is MEANT for TC. It's not like alcoholics will get treated better if we treat obese people, people with "dangerous" hobbies, etc. worse <cite>bobbaaay posted [p:924234128] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bobbaaay posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/7fbus9jbcim21.jpg</quote> I dunno, seems more it's calling out the people in charge not the dope addicts tbh</quote> They're not the ones that made insulin $750</quote> Exactly. This meme is MEANT for TC. It's not like alcoholics will get treated better if we treat obese people, people with "dangerous" hobbies, etc. worse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 10:41:29 AM #18:	Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin. It's like complaining that cars are too expensive for anyone because a Bentley is $200,000 --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924234169] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin. It's like complaining that cars are too expensive for anyone because a Bentley is $200,000</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/04/19 10:42:56 AM #19:	oh thank god thank you darkroast. I don't have to fear dying of diabetes now --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924234212] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>oh thank god thank you darkroast. I don't have to fear dying of diabetes now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 10:43:46 AM #20:	0xDEFECADE posted... oh thank god thank you darkroast. I don't have to fear dying of diabetes now I think insulin should be free but that's just me I'm just pointing out the flaw in the argument used --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924234231] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote>oh thank god thank you darkroast. I don't have to fear dying of diabetes now</quote> I think insulin should be free but that's just me I'm just pointing out the flaw in the argument used</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobbaaay 07/04/19 10:43:47 AM #21:	DarkRoast posted... Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin. It's like complaining that cars are too expensive for anyone because a Bentley is $200,000 I don't know enough about prices of insulin/medications, but even if you're right it doesn't change the message of the meme. The meme could also be applied to the "McDonald's workers wanting 15? WHAT ABOUT ME?" debates. <cite>bobbaaay posted [p:924234235] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin. It's like complaining that cars are too expensive for anyone because a Bentley is $200,000</quote> I don't know enough about prices of insulin/medications, but even if you're right it doesn't change the message of the meme. The meme could also be applied to the "McDonald's workers wanting 15? WHAT ABOUT ME?" debates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 10:44:33 AM #22:	bobbaaay posted... DarkRoast posted... Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin. It's like complaining that cars are too expensive for anyone because a Bentley is $200,000 I don't know enough about prices of insulin/medications, but even if you're right it doesn't change the message of the meme. The meme could also be applied to the "McDonald's workers wanting 15? WHAT ABOUT ME?" debates. Yep. It's a fundamental flawed argument. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924234258] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>bobbaaay posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin. It's like complaining that cars are too expensive for anyone because a Bentley is $200,000</quote> I don't know enough about prices of insulin/medications, but even if you're right it doesn't change the message of the meme. The meme could also be applied to the "McDonald's workers wanting 15? WHAT ABOUT ME?" debates.</quote> Yep. It's a fundamental flawed argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 10:46:20 AM #23:	In any case, I'm not actually sure why we don't have programs to get people free 70/30, especially for Type I. And when Lantus and Levemir go generic, we could switch to that. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924234302] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>In any case, I'm not actually sure why we don't have programs to get people free 70/30, especially for Type I. And when Lantus and Levemir go generic, we could switch to that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/04/19 10:47:52 AM #24:	like I don't have diabetes YET, but now I know it won't be a total death sentence --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924234347] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>like I don't have diabetes YET, but now I know it won't be a total death sentence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 10:51:48 AM #25:	0xDEFECADE posted... like I don't have diabetes YET, but now I know it won't be a total death sentence There are quite a few good oral medications for Type II diabetes that are affordable. If you're prediabetic, consider starting metformin. It's been shown to prevent the progression to Type II DM. Unfortunately, insulin is the only treatment for Type I. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924234456] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote>like I don't have diabetes YET, but now I know it won't be a total death sentence</quote> There are quite a few good oral medications for Type II diabetes that are affordable. If you're prediabetic, consider starting metformin. It's been shown to prevent the progression to Type II DM. Unfortunately, insulin is the only treatment for Type I.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/04/19 10:52:44 AM #26:	yeas, I'm talking metformin actually --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924234486] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>yeas, I'm talking metformin actually</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 10:59:34 AM #27:	0xDEFECADE posted... yeas, I'm talking metformin actually Consider starting glyburide or glipizide next if you find your A1C is still having trouble. They're both $4 iirc. One thing, though, is that metformin typically doesn't cause hypoglycemia but many of the other oral meds can, so they should really only be taken if you have DM2 --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924234692] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote>yeas, I'm talking metformin actually</quote> Consider starting glyburide or glipizide next if you find your A1C is still having trouble. They're both $4 iirc. One thing, though, is that metformin typically doesn't cause hypoglycemia but many of the other oral meds can, so they should really only be taken if you have DM2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/04/19 11:00:57 AM #28:	okay. most Rxs are free with medical however actually --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924234737] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>okay. most Rxs are free with medical however actually</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
megamanfreakXD 07/04/19 11:08:07 AM #29:	Why is it easier for a smoker to get a lung transplant than to get a liver transplant? That is actually not true. Here is a list of contraindications for a lung transplant. Active smoking is one of the criteria. https://i.gyazo.com/99993450493c091092a4f32f4ced1e9c.png Half the people in the hospital are there because of bad choices. But alcoholics are the bad people who get 2 or 3 chances then it's out on the street, not even a handful of librium. Librium (and ativan for that matter) is not used outpatient because withdrawal usually resolves inpatient therefore you don't take it long term. Also, it's not like we "don't care". We provide a lot of social placements/assistance to help treat alcohol intoxication/abuse but the patients don't care/lost to follow up/goes back to drinking again. I can't help people who don't want to help themselves. Why aren't people with stints and heart transplants from decades of eating badly eventually told not to come back until they fix themselves? Because surgery yields a poor benefit to risk ratio if the main problem is mainly diet. Methadone can be given orally with no risk of surgery complications and is given in a monitored setting. Two different things. Why do people with an STD get a chuckle and joke from the MD about wrapping it up and we get treated like we personally offended the doctor? Never happens. We just do our job. Why don't the obese on their third 100,000 dollar bypass get lectured and treated like garbage? Why isn't the person with a fractured leg from a very dangerous hobby left to suffer for hours on a gurney with no pillow in a room with a camera? wat --- https://imgur.com/tzhGHNu <cite>megamanfreakXD posted [p:924234964] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><quote>Why is it easier for a smoker to get a lung transplant than to get a liver transplant?</quote> That is actually not true. Here is a list of contraindications for a lung transplant. Active smoking is one of the criteria. https://i.gyazo.com/99993450493c091092a4f32f4ced1e9c.png <quote>Half the people in the hospital are there because of bad choices. But alcoholics are the bad people who get 2 or 3 chances then it's out on the street, not even a handful of librium. </quote> Librium (and ativan for that matter) is not used outpatient because withdrawal usually resolves inpatient therefore you don't take it long term. Also, it's not like we "don't care". We provide a lot of social placements/assistance to help treat alcohol intoxication/abuse but the patients don't care/lost to follow up/goes back to drinking again. I can't help people who don't want to help themselves. <quote>Why aren't people with stints and heart transplants from decades of eating badly eventually told not to come back until they fix themselves?</quote> Because surgery yields a poor benefit to risk ratio if the main problem is mainly diet. Methadone can be given orally with no risk of surgery complications and is given in a monitored setting. Two different things. <quote>Why do people with an STD get a chuckle and joke from the MD about wrapping it up and we get treated like we personally offended the doctor?</quote> Never happens. We just do our job. <quote>Why don't the obese on their third 100,000 dollar bypass get lectured and treated like garbage? Why isn't the person with a fractured leg from a very dangerous hobby left to suffer for hours on a gurney with no pillow in a room with a camera? </quote> wat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
megamanfreakXD 07/04/19 11:09:31 AM #30:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... What fucking room were you allowed to go in where you can smoke? nvm you're probly talking about AA meetings. Would be nice to smoke in a hospital though. Yes. Lets cause a fire in a patient's room when there is oxygen freely flowing in the room. 200 IQ plan. --- https://imgur.com/tzhGHNu <cite>megamanfreakXD posted [p:924235018] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote>What fucking room were you allowed to go in where you can smoke? nvm you're probly talking about AA meetings. Would be nice to smoke in a hospital though.</quote> Yes. Lets cause a fire in a patient's room when there is oxygen freely flowing in the room. 200 IQ plan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
megamanfreakXD 07/04/19 11:17:27 AM #31:	masticatingman posted... Its an issue that goes with homelessness/being destitute in this case. Theyre one of a few groups that are easy to identify within the hospital system as probably not being able to pay any bills. So theyre rushed out of hospitals ASAP so they dont hog bed space. In my hospital supposedly, patients with no insurance gets emergency medicaid only for their stay. But the costs do add up. It is true that in my hospital, we do tend to rush out patients who are stable for discharge (social workers and the higher ups are always on our asses to do so), but we definitely make sure that the patient is "cleared" for discharge when the acute problem is corrected. --- https://imgur.com/tzhGHNu <cite>megamanfreakXD posted [p:924235304] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>masticatingman posted...</cite> <quote>Its an issue that goes with homelessness/being destitute in this case. Theyre one of a few groups that are easy to identify within the hospital system as probably not being able to pay any bills. So theyre rushed out of hospitals ASAP so they dont hog bed space.</quote> In my hospital supposedly, patients with no insurance gets emergency medicaid only for their stay. But the costs do add up. It is true that in my hospital, we do tend to rush out patients who are stable for discharge (social workers and the higher ups are always on our asses to do so), but we definitely make sure that the patient is "cleared" for discharge when the acute problem is corrected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterPengy 07/04/19 12:06:51 PM #32:	DarkRoast posted... Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin. Not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure different medicines don't work the same for every one. It's great that there's a cheap insulin, but I doubt it's the one every diabetic needs. --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:924237036] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin.</quote> Not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure different medicines don't work the same for every one. It's great that there's a cheap insulin, but I doubt it's the one every diabetic needs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/04/19 12:07:43 PM #33:	In my experience fat people are derided just as much, by those inclined to bitch about patients. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:924237067] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>In my experience fat people are derided just as much, by those inclined to bitch about patients.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 07/04/19 12:18:33 PM #35:	Alcoholics brought their problem onto themselves much like the obese, but they are also a major burden for liver transplants which are desperately needed for others who need a new liver for no fault of their own, cause relationship problems for everyone around them with their shitty behaviors and attitudes (and don't get me started on the abuse issues many of them have), can never hold down a steady job because they frequently get disciplined or fired for showing up to work drunk and/or caught drinking on the job. MisterPengy posted... DarkRoast posted... Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin. Not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure different medicines don't work the same for every one. It's great that there's a cheap insulin, but I doubt it's the one every diabetic needs. Guess what, you're talking to one. DarkRoast is CE's resident MD. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:924237467] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>Alcoholics brought their problem onto themselves much like the obese, but they are also a major burden for liver transplants which are desperately needed for others who need a new liver for no fault of their own, cause relationship problems for everyone around them with their shitty behaviors and attitudes (and don't get me started on the abuse issues many of them have), can never hold down a steady job because they frequently get disciplined or fired for showing up to work drunk and/or caught drinking on the job. <cite>MisterPengy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Also, 70/30 insulin is $24 but nobody seems to want the Toyota Camry of insulin, they want Lantus/Levemir, the McLaren P1 of insulin.</quote> Not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure different medicines don't work the same for every one. It's great that there's a cheap insulin, but I doubt it's the one every diabetic needs.</quote> Guess what, you're talking to one. DarkRoast is CE's resident MD.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BobanMarjanovic 07/04/19 12:23:31 PM #36:	Yao posted... Why do people with an STD get a chuckle and joke from the MD about wrapping it up and we get treated like we personally offended the doctor? Seriously this <cite>BobanMarjanovic posted [p:924237638] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people with an STD get a chuckle and joke from the MD about wrapping it up and we get treated like we personally offended the doctor? </quote> Seriously this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 07/04/19 12:30:23 PM #37:	Fuck doctors. Seriously. At least nobody wrote out scripts for alcohol for you and then took them away suddenly. That is the way they did my Klonopin. 8 years of being on it and then they yank you off cold turkey because the DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. Then they treat you like a drug addict everywhere you go. --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:924237903] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>Fuck doctors. Seriously. At least nobody wrote out scripts for alcohol for you and then took them away suddenly. That is the way they did my Klonopin. 8 years of being on it and then they yank you off cold turkey because the DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. Then they treat you like a drug addict everywhere you go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/04/19 12:36:11 PM #38:	DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. And yet you blame doctors and not the people forcing them to do this You sound like a Baby Boomer in a supermarket checkout line whenever the cashier says they can't do something. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924238129] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. And yet you blame doctors and not the people forcing them to do this You sound like a Baby Boomer in a supermarket checkout line whenever the cashier says they can't do something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 07/04/19 12:42:06 PM #39:	I would imagine it's because medical professionals get treated worse by drunks and alcoholics than most people with other ailments. <cite>knutjob posted [p:924238336] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote>I would imagine it's because medical professionals get treated worse by drunks and alcoholics than most people with other ailments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EdgeMaster 07/04/19 12:43:49 PM #40:	DarkRoast posted... DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. And yet you blame doctors and not the people forcing them to do this. Made me laugh. Got a real wise guy here. --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire <cite>EdgeMaster posted [p:924238417] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. And yet you blame doctors and not the people forcing them to do this.</quote> Made me laugh. Got a real wise guy here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 07/04/19 12:57:13 PM #41:	EdgeMaster posted... DarkRoast posted... DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. And yet you blame doctors and not the people forcing them to do this. Made me laugh. Got a real wise guy here. Fitting username. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:924238955] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. And yet you blame doctors and not the people forcing them to do this.</quote> Made me laugh. Got a real wise guy here.</quote> Fitting username.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 07/04/19 12:59:25 PM #42:	Yao posted... Why don't the obese on their third 100,000 dollar bypass get lectured and treated like garbage? Methinks this topic is based on a false premise --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:924239025] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote>Why don't the obese on their third 100,000 dollar bypass get lectured and treated like garbage? </quote> Methinks this topic is based on a false premise</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yao 07/04/19 2:59:46 PM #43:	SageHarpuia posted... Yao posted... Why don't the obese on their third 100,000 dollar bypass get lectured and treated like garbage? Methinks this topic is based on a false premise Is a bypass in the USA free? <cite>Yao posted [p:924243724] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yao posted...</cite> <quote>Why don't the obese on their third 100,000 dollar bypass get lectured and treated like garbage? </quote> Methinks this topic is based on a false premise</quote> Is a bypass in the USA free?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 07/05/19 12:11:06 AM #44:	DarkRoast posted... DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. And yet you blame doctors and not the people forcing them to do this You sound like a Baby Boomer in a supermarket checkout line whenever the cashier says they can't do something. No I'm blaming them for knowingly writing me out super addictive shit for years then not even tapering. There's a complete manual on exiting a long term benzo rx but no doctor seems to give a fuck. --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:924263028] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. And yet you blame doctors and not the people forcing them to do this You sound like a Baby Boomer in a supermarket checkout line whenever the cashier says they can't do something.</quote> No I'm blaming them for knowingly writing me out super addictive shit for years then not even tapering. There's a complete manual on exiting a long term benzo rx but no doctor seems to give a fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CenaIsTheGOAT 07/05/19 12:18:46 AM #45:	yemmy posted... Fuck doctors. Seriously. At least nobody wrote out scripts for alcohol for you and then took them away suddenly. That is the way they did my Klonopin. 8 years of being on it and then they yank you off cold turkey because the DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. Then they treat you like a drug addict everywhere you go. Man i've been on clons for about seven years, if they take me off that cold turkey its gonna destroy me... --- Cena is the best performer in sports entertainment history New England Patriots 6 time champs <cite>CenaIsTheGOAT posted [p:924263236] in Why are Al... [t:77835946]...</cite> <quote><cite>yemmy posted...</cite> <quote>Fuck doctors. Seriously. At least nobody wrote out scripts for alcohol for you and then took them away suddenly. That is the way they did my Klonopin. 8 years of being on it and then they yank you off cold turkey because the DEA and/or medical board threatens to start shutting docs down if they keep on writing it. Then they treat you like a drug addict everywhere you go.</quote> Man i've been on clons for about seven years, if they take me off that cold turkey its gonna destroy me...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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