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ultimate reaver
06/17/19 6:26:42 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
People still think impeachment means removal even though Nixon was never impeached and Johnson and Clinton were acquitted.


No way, who would be this late in the game thinking stuff like that
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 6:28:47 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Maybe if you watched the video you'd see why people should be calling for impeachment

Maybe, if you're the type who takes John Oliver seriously. Most people don't, because he's a fucking idiot.
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HairyThotter
06/17/19 6:28:53 PM
#53:


Impeachment is to the Dems what 'the wall' is to the Republicans... a pipe dream that keeps their eyes glued to the dying news media.
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CyricZ
06/17/19 6:37:33 PM
#54:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Maybe if you watched the video you'd see why people should be calling for impeachment

Maybe, if you're the type who takes John Oliver seriously. Most people don't, because he's a fucking idiot.

Well I'm sure you can point out where in the video he's lying, wrong, mistaken, exaggerating, etc.
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NinjaWarrior455
06/17/19 6:38:00 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Maybe if you watched the video you'd see why people should be calling for impeachment

Maybe, if you're the type who takes John Oliver seriously. Most people don't, because he's a fucking idiot.

Well I'm sure you can point out where in the video he's lying, wrong, mistaken, exaggerating, etc.

Protip: he can't
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The Admiral
06/17/19 6:40:33 PM
#56:


hockeybub89 posted...
PatrickMahomes posted...
Lol what? who the fuck is unironically suggesting impeachment?

Everyone shitting on Nancy Pelosi for not having a spine.

They don't need to impeach because it will definitely remove Trump. They need to impeach to show they have some fucking backbone.


There is no chance that an impeachment proceeding will ever be successful given the balance of the Senate. If the Dems blow their load on this charade and come out as failures yet again, Trump is cruising to a victory in 2020. And a lot of those Congressional Dems are getting ousted, also.

This is one of the few times Pelosi is doing something intelligent.
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CyricZ
06/17/19 6:44:55 PM
#57:


Friendly reminder. You don't have to take the advice from someone who will vote for Trump on whether there's merit to impeachment proceedings.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 6:47:09 PM
#58:


CyricZ posted...

Well I'm sure you can point out where in the video he's lying, wrong, mistaken, exaggerating, etc.

That would require two things:

1.) Watching the video (lmao fuck no I'm not gonna do that shit)

and

2.) A belief that you and yours would actually engage in an honest discussion rather than biased partisan garbage. Based on my experiences with the politics board, I'm not about to waste my time arguing with you guys.
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CyricZ
06/17/19 6:50:47 PM
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So laziness and a belief that you're better than me.

What a winner you are.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 6:55:50 PM
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CyricZ posted...
So laziness and a belief that you're better than me

It's not laziness. It's the fact that I value my own time. I've given John Oliver a chance before. He sucks total fucking ass, so I'm never wasting my time watching him ramble again.

I'm not arguing with you for a similar reason. I don't feel like I should waste my time debating; I have enough experience arguing with GameFAQs Liberals and I don't need another dose of it.
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TheBiggerWiggle
06/17/19 6:58:41 PM
#61:


StucklnMyPants posted...
The problem is, even if the House manages to impeach, the Senate will shoot it down and then it's over.


The video addresses this point, and even John Oliver himself says removal isnt likely. The benefit of taking it to the Senate is that it forces everyone to finally take an official stand. They must vote for impeachment publicly and on the record. No more deflections. No more avoidances. No more lip service. It would officially be on the record for each individual: are they ok with Trumps obvious attempts at obstructing justice.
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Smashingpmkns
06/17/19 7:07:56 PM
#62:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's the fact that I value my own time.


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I write Naruto Fanfiction.

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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 7:09:40 PM
#63:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's the fact that I value my own time.


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I write Naruto Fanfiction.

I value the time I spend writing about a series that I enjoy, yes. I don't value the time I spend arguing with people who don't have any interest in hearing what I have to say.
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CyricZ
06/17/19 7:10:21 PM
#64:


"I'd argue but you wouldn't be fair" is the new "I'd argue but I'd get modded".

Come to think of it, how much of his day has Gobby spent "not arguing" with us so far?
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 7:13:57 PM
#65:


CyricZ posted...
"I'd argue but you wouldn't be fair" is the new "I'd argue but I'd get modded".

In my experience, every time I say something that disagrees with the most popular opinions of the left-leaning users of this board, I inevitably get called a sexist, racist, Nazi (seriously, several times by several different users,) a Russian bot, a "trumpkin," etc.

I don't have any interest in being labeled and dismissed just because I have different opinions from the left.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 7:14:21 PM
#66:


CyricZ posted...
how much of his day has Gobby spent "not arguing" with us so far?

Bouncing between topics and posting here occasionally...maybe 5 minutes in here? Ten?
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Bluebomber182
06/17/19 7:35:49 PM
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impeach the motherfucker
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HylianFox
06/17/19 7:36:31 PM
#68:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's the fact that I value my own time

and yet here you are
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 7:46:09 PM
#70:


Conflict posted...
You come in here, insult the guy while simultaneously admitting you didn't watch the video

This would be almost-relevant if it were the man's first video. He's got a pretty obvious pattern: "Political opinion -> Sarcastic jab to insult those who hold a different opinion." Occasionally he'll also sprinkle some objective facts in with the opinionated trash so that his supporters have half-a-leg to stand on when they say "He uses facts to make his arguments."

Repeat.

He's habitually awful and I don't need to see another rant to confirm it.

As for not arguing about it? I said I didn't want to argue about the contents of the video. I'm plenty willing to argue about why I don't want to argue about the video's contents.
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Delirious_Beard
06/17/19 7:47:59 PM
#71:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's the fact that I value my own time.


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I write Naruto Fanfiction.

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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 7:50:20 PM
#72:


Delirious_Beard posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's the fact that I value my own time.


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I write Naruto Fanfiction.

Gobstoppers12 posted...
I value the time I spend writing about a series that I enjoy, yes.

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CyricZ
06/17/19 7:53:11 PM
#73:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm plenty willing to argue about why I don't want to argue about the video's contents.

Gobstoppers12 posted...
I value my own time.


Just think, in the time you've dedicated to this topic explaining why you don't want to be in this topic, you could have watched the video.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 7:55:09 PM
#74:


CyricZ posted...

Just think, in the time you've dedicated to this topic explaining why you don't want to be in this topic, you could have watched the video.

I've already explained why I'm not going to watch the video. I've also explained that I don't mind being in this topic, but I'm not going to watch the video or debate the video's specific contents. This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about to start with. You're so focused on 'gotcha' moments that you're ignoring the totality of what I'm saying.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:00:05 PM
#76:


CrimsonRage posted...
to say john oliver sucks and insult those who watch him

No, the people who watch him can do what they do. I think John Oliver sucks, absolutely, but I don't think people who watch him suck just because he does.
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Dragonblade01
06/17/19 8:00:32 PM
#77:


So what are your thoughts on impeachment?
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PleaseClap
06/17/19 8:00:52 PM
#78:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
you're ignoring the totality of what I'm saying.

but you're saying absolutely nothing at all
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au_gold
06/17/19 8:01:22 PM
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Imagine arguing with a fan of Game of Thrones season 8.
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CyricZ
06/17/19 8:01:23 PM
#80:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
you're ignoring the totality of what I'm saying.

Which amounts to a heaping pile of squat, sir. You've added nothing to this entire discussion, except a plea for everyone to look at you and respect you for not wanting to sully your eyes with Less-Attractive Steve Mnuchin and bask in the glory of you being too good to argue with us liberal plebs.

Mission accomplished, I spose.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:01:34 PM
#81:


Dragonblade01 posted...
So what are your thoughts on impeachment?

It'd be a colossal waste of time for two reasons:

1.) Trump committed no impeachable offenses.

2.) You'd never get the votes in the Senate even if he had.
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Dragonblade01
06/17/19 8:04:18 PM
#82:


See, was that so hard?
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hockeybub89
06/17/19 8:05:41 PM
#83:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
So what are your thoughts on impeachment?

It'd be a colossal waste of time for two reasons:

1.) Trump committed no impeachable offenses.

2.) You'd never get the votes in the Senate even if he had.

I feel like you don't know what impeachment means.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:05:48 PM
#84:


Dragonblade01 posted...
See, was that so hard?

Nobody asked before you. The mockery isn't necessary.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:06:41 PM
#85:


hockeybub89 posted...

I feel like you don't know what impeachment means.

Are you suggesting that it wouldn't be a colossal waste of time to devote hundreds (or thousands) of hours to impeachment proceedings that will literally accomplish nothing aside from making President Trump more popular?
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Dragonblade01
06/17/19 8:08:12 PM
#86:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
See, was that so hard?

Nobody asked before you. The mockery isn't necessary.

In a topic about impeachment where you spend the majority of time going on about how much you don't really want to participate, I'd say it's necessary.
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hockeybub89
06/17/19 8:10:06 PM
#88:


The Admiral posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
PatrickMahomes posted...
Lol what? who the fuck is unironically suggesting impeachment?

Everyone shitting on Nancy Pelosi for not having a spine.

They don't need to impeach because it will definitely remove Trump. They need to impeach to show they have some fucking backbone.


There is no chance that an impeachment proceeding will ever be successful given the balance of the Senate. If the Dems blow their load on this charade and come out as failures yet again, Trump is cruising to a victory in 2020. And a lot of those Congressional Dems are getting ousted, also.

This is one of the few times Pelosi is doing something intelligent.

There is next to no chance that Trump is convicted and removed. He should still be impeached. The Democrats need to stand for something if they want to woo independent voters. They really need to stop playing nice.

I'd like to take a page from you and call it a symbolic gesture.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:11:47 PM
#89:


Dragonblade01 posted...
In a topic about impeachment

It's only partially about impeachment. It's actually about John Oliver and his personal opinion of impeachment.
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Dragonblade01
06/17/19 8:13:30 PM
#90:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
In a topic about impeachment

It's only partially about impeachment. It's actually about John Oliver and his personal opinion of impeachment.

That's not partially about impeachment.
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hockeybub89
06/17/19 8:14:11 PM
#91:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

I feel like you don't know what impeachment means.

Are you suggesting that it wouldn't be a colossal waste of time to devote hundreds (or thousands) of hours to impeachment proceedings that will literally accomplish nothing aside from making President Trump more popular?

Why would it make him more popular? Is the uncertainty of Trump's criminal status what's holding everyone back from supporting him?
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:15:24 PM
#92:


Dragonblade01 posted...

That's not partially about impeachment.

Is a part of the topic about impeachment?
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:16:09 PM
#93:


hockeybub89 posted...

Why would it make him more popular? Is the uncertainty of Trump's criminal status what's holding everyone back from supporting him?

Impeachment proceedings have a way of pointing out extremely petty bullshit. It worked wonders for Bill Clinton--if he wasn't already on his second term, his impeachment process would've guaranteed that he got re-elected.
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Dragonblade01
06/17/19 8:18:46 PM
#94:


hockeybub89 posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

I feel like you don't know what impeachment means.

Are you suggesting that it wouldn't be a colossal waste of time to devote hundreds (or thousands) of hours to impeachment proceedings that will literally accomplish nothing aside from making President Trump more popular?

Why would it make him more popular? Is the uncertainty of Trump's criminal status what's holding everyone back from supporting him?

It may sway certain independents or others on the fence, but what it runs the risk of doing instead is damaging the Democratic party if it goes very wrong. Of course, there's a chance it may also help bolster the Democratic side (which is still a bit too bipartisan for my liking, tbh). While I understand John's ultimate point about making a statement, it's still a marked tactical risk.
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Dragonblade01
06/17/19 8:19:40 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

That's not partially about impeachment.

Is a part of the topic about impeachment?

It's about impeachment.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:20:00 PM
#96:


Dragonblade01 posted...

It's about impeachment.

Impeachment annnd....?
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PleaseClap
06/17/19 8:20:14 PM
#97:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

It's about impeachment.

Impeachment annnd....?

Impeachment
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Dragonblade01
06/17/19 8:21:06 PM
#98:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

It's about impeachment.

Impeachment annnd....?

And about John Oliver's segment on impeachment. Notice how all of it is about impeachment, despite also including John Oliver.
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Gobstoppers12
06/17/19 8:21:55 PM
#99:


Dragonblade01 posted...
And about John Oliver's segment

#Bingo

I'm commenting on John Oliver and how I have no interest in watching him ramble. The fact that he chose to ramble about impeachment this time is secondary to the fact that he is John Oliver.
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Dragonblade01
06/17/19 8:25:12 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
And about John Oliver's segment

#Bingo

I'm commenting on John Oliver and how I have no interest in watching him ramble. The fact that he chose to ramble about impeachment this time is secondary to the fact that he is John Oliver.

I like how you ignored the part how this is all still about impeachment. And you're worried about others not being willing to have an honest discussion.
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