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Philoktetes
06/10/19 6:49:14 PM
#51:


twin snakes voice acting is worse because the actors arent putting any emotion into it

campbell and naomi are the worst for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gx1A3wf1ug" data-time="

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creativerealms
06/10/19 6:50:08 PM
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Didn't the MGS2 gameplay features break the game?
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Vicious_Dios
06/10/19 6:57:48 PM
#53:


Philoktetes posted...
twin snakes voice acting is worse because the actors arent putting any emotion into it

campbell and naomi are the worst for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gx1A3wf1ug" data-time="


This guy gets it.
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Unite
06/10/19 7:08:24 PM
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In original I could never tap button fast enough for torture scene. Original better
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DevsBro
06/10/19 8:25:12 PM
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Grischnak posted...
I never got the hate TTS cutscenes got. I mean, I can sort of understand hating them before MGS4 and Revengence came out, but compared to those games most of the stuff in TTS is pretty tame. Clearly MGS and realism just don't mix.

That was all cyborg stuff though. Well, and Nanomachines, son. Snake in MGS4 didn't do any of that.
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50Blessings
06/10/19 8:28:23 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Philoktetes posted...
twin snakes voice acting is worse because the actors arent putting any emotion into it

campbell and naomi are the worst for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gx1A3wf1ug" data-time="


This guy gets it.


But but but wrong accents!
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hockeybub89
06/10/19 8:30:26 PM
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"The cutscenes are dumb"

So literally Metal Gear cutscenes
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Garioshi
06/10/19 8:30:27 PM
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It's better than MGS1, but you shouldn't play it as your first time experiencing MGS1. Unlike MGS2, with its comprehensive tutorials, you're just expected to know most of the things you can do from MGS2.
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Jabodie
06/10/19 8:41:44 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Philoktetes posted...
twin snakes voice acting is worse because the actors arent putting any emotion into it

campbell and naomi are the worst for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gx1A3wf1ug" data-time="


This guy gets it.

The worst part is they continued to phone it in for the rest of the series.

I have actually played every MGS game except Twin Snakes, so I can't comment aside from the VA I've seen watching the cutscenes online. But MGS1 on PS1 is my favorite in the series (which I believe I played for the first time around when Peace Walker came out).
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Gobstoppers12
06/10/19 8:45:00 PM
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Twin Snakes works great if you just look at it like it's Otacon retelling the story and exaggerating Snake's combat feats to anime level. Somebody put it that way a long time ago and it helps soothe some of the cringe off the ludicrous cutscenes.
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Mistere Man
06/10/19 8:50:22 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Twin Snakes works great if you just look at it like it's Otacon retelling the story and exaggerating Snake's combat feats to anime level. Somebody put it that way a long time ago and it helps soothe some of the cringe off the ludicrous cutscenes.

Was just about to post something like this.

I heard the original is what happened, and the twin snakes is like the legend of what happened as in people exaggerating or stretching the truth.
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Solid Snake07
06/10/19 8:52:47 PM
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Both are great
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BusyGettingLaid
06/10/19 11:06:25 PM
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Now I know where "just like my japanese animes" comes from

also i don't know how to move my controller to port 2 on this emulator lmao
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Kisai
06/10/19 11:08:08 PM
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No it goddamn isn't. Twin Snakes is not that bad.
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Philoktetes
06/11/19 12:00:28 AM
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BusyGettingLaid posted...
Now I know where "just like my japanese animes" comes from

also i don't know how to move my controller to port 2 on this emulator lmao


emulators are illegal
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EverDownward
06/11/19 12:30:29 AM
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Mistere Man posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Twin Snakes works great if you just look at it like it's Otacon retelling the story and exaggerating Snake's combat feats to anime level. Somebody put it that way a long time ago and it helps soothe some of the cringe off the ludicrous cutscenes.

Was just about to post something like this.

I heard the original is what happened, and the twin snakes is like the legend of what happened as in people exaggerating or stretching the truth.

This makes too much sense, and it's my official headcanon now.
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Jagr_68
06/11/19 11:15:47 AM
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Philoktetes posted...
twin snakes voice acting is worse because the actors arent putting any emotion into it

campbell and naomi are the worst for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gx1A3wf1ug" data-time="


This doesn't mean anything except that the original's overdramatic shouting exchanges isn't better or worse than Twin Snakes' sometimes oversubdued covert tone. Yeah there's a nuclear danger at hand that has to be stopped but every sentence in the original is tonally punctuated with exclamations.

I mean the game itself even iterates it's a sneaking mission and noise is a crucial aspect of the game. The new VA seemed logical based on that at least.
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BusyGettingLaid
06/11/19 9:53:34 PM
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Well Meryl's gonna have to die because I am incapable of doing this torture scene. Is the difference in endings simple enough that I can just youtube the good ending afterwards or does it like end the game prematurely or some shit?
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Zodd3224
06/11/19 9:55:59 PM
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Reis posted...
no it's better than the original in every way except OST


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50Blessings
06/11/19 10:10:11 PM
#70:


Jagr_68 posted...

This doesn't mean anything except that the original's overdramatic shouting exchanges isn't better or worse than Twin Snakes' sometimes oversubdued covert tone. Yeah there's a nuclear danger at hand that has to be stopped but every sentence in the original is tonally punctuated with exclamations.

I mean the game itself even iterates it's a sneaking mission and noise is a crucial aspect of the game. The new VA seemed logical based on that at least.


So which fucking is it?

Complain about the cutscenes, someone points out MGS is unrealistic and over the top so missile kick flips are perfectly fine.

Complain that the VA lacks any emotion at all? Well it's a sneaking mission so nobody should be getting emotional cause it's too noisy.

Seriously? IIRC, nano communication doesn't even *make* noise per MGS2.
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50Blessings
06/11/19 10:12:15 PM
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BusyGettingLaid posted...
Well Meryl's gonna have to die because I am incapable of doing this torture scene. Is the difference in endings simple enough that I can just youtube the good ending afterwards or does it like end the game prematurely or some shit?


It's just a different ending where she dies and Otacon and Snake ride off into the sunset together. You also get stealth camoflauge (turn invisible) as a replay reward instead of the bandana (gives infinite ammo)

Honestly, I always thought it fit them being so tight in MGS2 better, but MGS4 makes it clear Meryl is the canonical ending.

Have you tried rolling a pencil over the button? That's how I did it when my arms were weaker.

You could also try tapping it with your index finger instead of using your tumb. Just use your writst to tap it quick. You don't need a lot of force for it to register IIRC
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Mistere Man
06/11/19 10:55:36 PM
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This guy is a bit of a jerk, but their method is sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0zgtLCTsYA" data-time="


They also show a poorly done pen method for a second.
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BusyGettingLaid
06/11/19 11:37:32 PM
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Thanks I'll try one of those techniques tomorrow, got a callous on my thumb when trying earlier lol
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DevsBro
06/12/19 1:28:38 AM
#74:


The bad ending is the better ending anyway IMO.

And even though it's non-canon, it actually gives you more information that will be relevant in future installments. I mean, it's nothing of supreme importance or anything, but in 4 Snake reveals he knew somethonf he would have to have learned off-camera in the good ending. Go figure, huh?
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Trumpo
06/12/19 1:33:47 AM
#75:


If you Imagine Snake as Raiden in vr, the cutscenes make sense.
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