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The Admiral
06/08/19 8:41:23 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/07/read-the-us-mexico-statement-on-immigration-that-averted-trumps-tariffs.html

Under the agreement, Mexico has agreed to deploy its national guard throughout the country with priority given to its southern border to stem migration from Central America. Asylum seekers crossing the U.S. southern border will be sent back to Mexico where they will await the adjudication of their asylum claims, according to the joint declaration.


Those are pretty huge concessions, especially given that a lot of pundits thought the tariffs were just fangless posturing.

Impressive win.
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StanZarnack
06/08/19 8:43:17 AM
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you would think that after all this time,you would eventually post something decent. or just leave like so many other on the far right have done.
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King_Hellebuyck
06/08/19 8:48:56 AM
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Those arent pretty huge concessions - dude made up a problem and the pretended to fix it
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Alteres
06/08/19 8:49:56 AM
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StanZarnack posted...
you would think that after all this time,you would eventually post something decent. or just leave like so many other on the far right have done.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but this comes off as a bit whiny with all the goddamn trump topics I have to slog through...
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MrPeppers
06/08/19 8:55:11 AM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Those arent pretty huge concessions - dude made up a problem and the pretended to fix it


I live in a border city and its a fucking problem.
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The Admiral
06/08/19 8:57:26 AM
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StanZarnack posted...
you would think that after all this time,you would eventually post something decent. or just leave like so many other on the far right have done.


Feel free to use the ignore list instead of crying.

King_Hellebuyck posted...
Those arent pretty huge concessions - dude made up a problem and the pretended to fix it


The asylum seekers entering the U.S. and creating friction with ICE was not a made up problem. It's been in the news for months. Now, Mexico agrees to just take these people back immediately, and the U.S. doesn't even need to process their asylum claims.
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pikachupwnage
06/08/19 9:00:20 AM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Those arent pretty huge concessions - dude made up a problem and the pretended to fix it


Look I dont care what your opinion on the border is.

Its absolutely a fact that hundreds of thousands cross illegally a year and that the situation was/is nowhere near ideal.
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VTBM
06/08/19 9:01:00 AM
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And all the young people were afraid of even more expensive avocados.
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LordRazziel
06/08/19 9:01:22 AM
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MrPeppers posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Those arent pretty huge concessions - dude made up a problem and the pretended to fix it


I live in a border city and its a fucking problem.

Even in the Mexican border cities, they consider it a problem. Trumps motivations aside, yeah, it seems to be an issue.
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REMercsChamp
06/08/19 9:01:25 AM
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Looks like a Trump reelection is in the bag now
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA
06/08/19 9:06:18 AM
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Sorry, but this just comes off as him wanting to say he had a win in regards to the boarder situation.

After the whole situation regarding his wall came to a stop, it would seem like he needed to still secure a victory in the public's eyes, and did so in a pretty hyperbolic way.

The real question is, did he need to threaten tariffs?

I feel like Fox has been pretty upfront about wanting to work with America, but didn't want to be Trump's ***** when it came to building a wall. The fact that we had a trade agreement with Mexico before Trump said anything seems a testament to that.

Thats the problem with Trump tactics in general, he is so upfront and telling it like it is, that he comes off really easy to read, and thus a little disingenuous and transparent. Getting caught in really dumb lies doesn't help either

/rant.
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King_Hellebuyck
06/08/19 9:08:16 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Those arent pretty huge concessions - dude made up a problem and the pretended to fix it


Look I dont care what your opinion on the border is.

Its absolutely a fact that hundreds of thousands cross illegally a year and that the situation was/is nowhere near ideal.

Yes

And they will continue to do so
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Shablagoo
06/08/19 9:08:28 AM
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Under the agreement, Mexico has agreed to deploy its national guard throughout the country with priority given to its southern border to stem migration from Central America. Asylum seekers crossing the U.S. southern border will be sent back to Mexico where they will await the adjudication of their asylum claims, according to the joint declaration.


What the 1984 is this.........????
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John_Galt
06/08/19 9:11:18 AM
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#winning

As usual.
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Caution998
06/08/19 9:12:24 AM
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They blinked. Brilliant move imo.
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Cornmuffins
06/08/19 9:13:39 AM
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Nah
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Ranlom
06/08/19 9:15:34 AM
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Great, he solved the immigration problem. No need for a wall now.
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emblem boy
06/08/19 10:13:57 AM
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Trade wars really are easy to win ehh.
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Awesome
06/08/19 10:15:42 AM
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BignutzisBack
06/08/19 10:17:26 AM
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06/08/19 10:17:42 AM
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The Admiral
06/08/19 11:59:57 AM
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Ranlom posted...
Great, he solved the immigration problem. No need for a wall now.


I'm with you that the wall is a stupid and ineffective solution, but it's also stupid to pretend there isn't an issue with the influx of migrants.
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glitteringfairy
06/08/19 12:29:38 PM
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Caution998 posted...
They blinked. Brilliant move imo.

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hockeybub89
06/08/19 12:32:02 PM
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It's crazy how illegal immigration reached critical mass at the exact same time the GOP lost the House.
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Zikten
06/08/19 12:33:44 PM
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StanZarnack posted...
you would think that after all this time,you would eventually post something decent. or just leave like so many other on the far right have done.

high talk coming from a man who victim blames a child molestation victim

you have no room to take the moral high ground
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The Admiral
06/08/19 12:34:31 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
It's crazy how illegal immigration reached critical mass at the exact same time the GOP lost the House.


It was a massive issue under Obama too, and he deported more illegals than any president before him:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

However, Obama didn't have the balls to stand up to Mexico and force them to take action in securing their own borders.
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hockeybub89
06/08/19 12:35:36 PM
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Meanwhile, the Presidency gives such few fucks for the climate change issue and actively making it worse because fake news.
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karlpilkington4
06/08/19 12:36:44 PM
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The Admiral posted...

Trump got pretty much everything he wanted from Mexico


Yea, but did he get any of those tasty empanadas?
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TroutPaste
06/08/19 12:37:40 PM
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You shouldn't hurt policy making into a "win" if you can't admit when you lose.
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The Admiral
06/08/19 12:38:16 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
The Admiral posted...

Trump got pretty much everything he wanted from Mexico


Yea, but did he get any of those tasty empanadas?


Trump is more of a taco bowl kinda guy

qyCcChy
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karlpilkington4
06/08/19 12:41:15 PM
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The Admiral posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
The Admiral posted...

Trump got pretty much everything he wanted from Mexico


Yea, but did he get any of those tasty empanadas?


Trump is more of a taco bowl kinda guy

qyCcChy


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Prestoff
06/08/19 12:42:47 PM
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Spooking posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Those arent pretty huge concessions - dude made up a problem and the pretended to fix it

We have 15-25 million illegal aliens in the US, how is that not a problem? lol


Most of those 15-25 million illegals were from over due visas, not because of border crossers.
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southcoast09
06/08/19 12:45:04 PM
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Yep. The media and his opposition are trying to downplay it, but it was a big victory. The thing that people seem to forget is that he just publicly proved that he can use leverage against them.
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spudger
06/08/19 12:45:19 PM
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lets hope it works

i like the border protection in southern mexico, makes more sense than putting them at our border
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Umbreon
06/08/19 12:45:52 PM
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But are they paying for the wall? In a financial sense, not a metaphorical one.

Also hope Mexico is ready to get taken to the cleaners. No one like Trump just takes an inch.
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TroutPaste
06/08/19 12:49:38 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Yep. The media and his opposition are trying to downplay it, but it was a big victory. The thing that people seem to forget is that he just publicly proved that he can use leverage against them.


Maybe because he downplays everyone else, or discredits/debases large groups for his own motive.
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HairyThotter
06/08/19 12:52:02 PM
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Caution998 posted...
They blinked. Brilliant move imo.

emblem boy posted...
Trade wars really are easy to win ehh.

Awesome posted...
still insane how people are thinking that there is no problem at the border.


Yeah all this^

With how hard we're pushing our trade terms against China... I have to imagine Mexico looked at that situation and said... "well shit, any other american president saying they're going to impose tariffs would likely be bluffing... but this trump guy????? hm......"

It's the 2019 version of conflict, that is, economic warfare.
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StanZarnack
06/08/19 12:53:59 PM
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Zikten posted...
StanZarnack posted...
you would think that after all this time,you would eventually post something decent. or just leave like so many other on the far right have done.

high talk coming from a man who victim blames a child molestation victim

you have no room to take the moral high ground


milo is a pedophile apologist and a disgusting human being. as i said elsewhere, im not shocked that you defend him.
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ThePrinceFish
06/08/19 1:00:39 PM
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I'll believe Mexico will actually enforce their own immigration laws when I see it happen. An "agreement" with their corrupt government means very little.
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masterpug53
06/08/19 1:05:41 PM
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Hmm, this might actually put a stop to those invasion force-sized migrant caravans that start marching towards the US border every year around election season. I don't think Trump's actually thinking ahead very well on this one.
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Zikten
06/08/19 1:08:59 PM
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StanZarnack posted...
milo is a pedophile apologist and a disgusting human being. as i said elsewhere, im not shocked that you defend him.

no he's not. you are simply 100% dead wrong. you did not understand what he was saying at all. and of course I am going to defend a molestation victim. any decent fucking human being would
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DevsBro
06/08/19 1:09:41 PM
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Stormy Daniel is from Mexico?
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Bishop9800
06/08/19 1:10:11 PM
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Zikten posted...
StanZarnack posted...
milo is a pedophile apologist and a disgusting human being. as i said elsewhere, im not shocked that you defend him.

no he's not. you are simply 100% dead wrong. you did not understand what he was saying at all. and of course I am going to defend a molestation victim. any decent fucking human being would


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King_Hellebuyck
06/08/19 2:00:30 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Zikten posted...
StanZarnack posted...
milo is a pedophile apologist and a disgusting human being. as i said elsewhere, im not shocked that you defend him.

no he's not. you are simply 100% dead wrong. you did not understand what he was saying at all. and of course I am going to defend a molestation victim. any decent fucking human being would


Zikten meltdown in 3,2,1........

InB4 everyone always misinterprets me and its never my fault
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Zikten
06/08/19 2:07:12 PM
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no you guys are misinterpeting Milo this time. I am making myself very fucking clear. I support Milo as a molestation victim and I 100% defend him. there is no way to misunderstand that.
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kingdrake2
06/08/19 2:07:27 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Stormy Daniel is from Mexico?


yes.
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cerealbox760
06/08/19 2:26:35 PM
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This doesn't prove tariffs are any good. Trump simply won a game of chicken.
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karlpilkington4
06/08/19 2:29:18 PM
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cerealbox760 posted...
This doesn't prove tariffs are any good. Trump simply won a game of chicken.


So the tariff worked?

Cool
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