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spikethedevil
06/08/19 11:30:49 AM
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Yay more people who dont know what weeb actually means.
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Ps2Twilight
06/08/19 11:36:18 AM
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I find the Trails in the Sky games to be better but Cold Steel is still pretty good.

Tropey, but good. And it does a massive amount of world building.
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Turbam
06/08/19 11:36:45 AM
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I think I have them on my vita
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HairyThotter
06/08/19 11:43:40 AM
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I'm trying really hard to like it, I'm 40hrs into the first one, but it's so story heavy. Yeah, I get it, that is the point of JRPG's... and I've played and enjoyed other JRPG's... but damn this game takes it to the absolute extreme.

It's also not a game you can pick up and put down. You have to sit down and devote time because you might beat the boss at the end of the mission/chapter you're on... but on the way back to town where you can save you'll get a surprise encounter or 'training' session that you can't advance through until you win. Mucho frustrating.
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andel
06/08/19 12:43:28 PM
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OmegaShinkai posted...
The problem with suggesting Cold Steel 3 is that you have to play the seven other Trails games or you're going to miss out on crucial plot points.

Also 2 is a shitshow and probably the worst Trails game.


strong disagree that it is the worst, it is nothing short of amazing imo
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JE19426
06/08/19 2:59:16 PM
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andel posted...
it is kinda unique in that it is a somewhat medivel setting but is taking place in something resembling a ln industrial revolution and the way they handle it is a breath of fresh air and really interesting to me


I disagree, I'd say it's closer to the late 1800s or early 1900s. Orbal energy is best compared to electricity imo. There's some weird tech like the computers that are closer to 1970s computers, and the advance ancient mech, but I'd say overall the late 1800s ot early 1900s is the best comparisons.
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Kaiganeer
06/08/19 3:06:27 PM
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i tried to get into the non-3d ones and holy shit, you would have to really try to make a blander, more generic jrpg setting/characters/everything than those games. adding a stereotypical anime art style probably wouldn't improve the experience, which is what cold steel is to my understanding
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JE19426
06/08/19 3:15:56 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
i tried to get into the non-3d ones and holy shit, you would have to really try to make a blander, more generic jrpg setting/characters/everything than those games.


Really? You played Trails in the Sky and thought they have a generic jrpg setting/character/everything?
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Esrac
06/08/19 3:46:50 PM
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I'll probably grab a Trails game or two on the next sale on Steam.

Do you need to play all of the Sky games before Cold Steel?
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andel
06/08/19 3:48:00 PM
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Esrac posted...
I'll probably grab a Trails game or two on the next sale on Steam.

Do you need to play all of the Sky games before Cold Steel?


no but it wouldnt hurt to get an understanding of the world. some of the events in the sky games take place before or concurrent with the cold steel games but it is a separate plot with some things intersecting
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PrincessCadance
06/08/19 3:48:41 PM
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Too weeby even for me.
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JE19426
06/08/19 3:48:52 PM
#62:


Esrac posted...
Do you need to play all of the Sky games before Cold Steel?


You don't need to play them before Cold Steel 1, or 2, but you do need to play them before Cold Steel 3.
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andel
06/08/19 3:52:28 PM
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PrincessCadance posted...
Too weeby even for me.


this should tell everyone that they are great, p sure no one would want your recommendation lmao
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SpudForce
06/08/19 3:53:55 PM
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As a fan of the old Wild Arms and Suikoden series, I wish I had discovered this series earlier.
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southcoast09
06/08/19 3:55:48 PM
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Theyre easily the two best RPGs of the past decade. This series is a breath of fresh air.

You can also play them on Vita or steam. They run fine on a cheap laptop.
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Axiom
06/08/19 3:58:43 PM
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No. No you don't. It's tedious and downright cringeworthy. The first three games I never played but Cold Steel doesn't deserve the praise heaped on it by its fanboys
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andel
06/08/19 4:00:03 PM
#67:


Axiom posted...
No. No you don't. It's tedious and downright cringeworthy. The first three games I never played but Cold Steel doesn't deserve the praise heaped on it by its fanboys


this is an incredibly bad take
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Strider102
06/08/19 4:01:50 PM
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I'll be honest I've tried to find them but never could. Hell even GameStop didn't have them.
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vocedelmorte
06/08/19 4:05:51 PM
#69:


The most overrated weeb game in history of weeb games
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andel
06/08/19 4:10:58 PM
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Strider102 posted...
I'll be honest I've tried to find them but never could. Hell even GameStop didn't have them.


you can find em easily on amazon and they arent expensive
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OmegaShinkai
06/08/19 4:15:06 PM
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Trails of Holding Back
CbU0eNT

And that's just the first CS, I swear to god at least half of the bosses in 2 are either "holding back" or it's a "win the fight but lose in the cutscene" situation.
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Axiom
06/08/19 4:22:10 PM
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Lmao that pic reminded me how off the 3d models were in that game
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PrincessCadance
06/08/19 4:24:05 PM
#73:


Axiom posted...
No. No you don't. It's tedious and downright cringeworthy. The first three games I never played but Cold Steel doesn't deserve the praise heaped on it by its fanboys


Even Axiom is correct here.

Time to close topic.
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andel
06/08/19 4:38:34 PM
#74:


PrincessCadance posted...
Axiom posted...
No. No you don't. It's tedious and downright cringeworthy. The first three games I never played but Cold Steel doesn't deserve the praise heaped on it by its fanboys


Even Axiom is correct here.

Time to close topic.


you have a literal pony avatar, safe to say your opinion is laughable
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PrincessCadance
06/08/19 4:53:19 PM
#75:


I do have one of these games on Steam as well, wish I had the sense to refund it

No need to get angry.
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Axiom
06/08/19 4:55:39 PM
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PrincessCadance posted...
Axiom posted...
No. No you don't. It's tedious and downright cringeworthy. The first three games I never played but Cold Steel doesn't deserve the praise heaped on it by its fanboys


Even Axiom is correct here.

Time to close topic.

Please don't agree with me. It does me and everyone else no favors when someone like you chimes in
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dotsdfe
06/08/19 5:01:22 PM
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I might grab CS2 today.

CS1 was a slooooooooooooow burn and a bumpy road, but the story ramped up a ton at the end and left off on a pretty great cliffhanger. I'm interested to see where it goes in 2.

I've waited for a bit, too. I beat 1 after getting it on a PSN sale on PS3 last September or so, but the PS4 remasters were announced in the meantime, so I decided to wait for the PS4 version of 2.
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andel
06/08/19 5:02:30 PM
#78:


PrincessCadance posted...
I do have one of these games on Steam as well, wish I had the sense to refund it

No need to get angry.


why are you so mad then?
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GiftedACIII
06/08/19 5:09:57 PM
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andel posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
andel posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
That's impressive! You've persuaded me to give it a try sometime in the near future rather than have it on low priority in my backlog that's indeterminate years behind.


i really hope you enjoy it but if you like the plot/worldbuilding style jrpgs with good character development i think you will love em

I'm sure it will be. I've heard very good things about the plot and worldbuilding. The jrpgs I'm fond of, bravely default and etrian odyssey aren't known for their stories so I'm looking forward to see what a good storytelling game is like. That said, bravely default and etrian odyssey had amazing music and I still listen to their tracks years after I've been done with them so I'm most curious to see what the music is like.


i think the music is really strong and tbh there isnt any aspect of the game that isnt really good imo. idk if you put much stock in reviews but both the cold steel games already localized get almost universally stellar reviews and will give you a pretty detailed idea of what to expect


My preferred games usually put their cards in the endgame content and reviewers rarely beat games and if they do its usually only to the first credits so they tend to not be reviewed as well despite their 100% completion being more challenging and satisfying. I dont put much stock in reviews in that sense. But if a game is well reviewed that usually means the content and gameplay that did manage to get experienced was enjoyable and catchy enough to get them to like it.
Thats a good sign.
That also makes me question it being a slow burn since if impatient reviewers universally like a game it must not take that long to get to the action. Ill see for myself at any rate.
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PrincessCadance
06/08/19 5:13:06 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
andel posted...
very bad take

God forbid I don't want to have to put in a dozen or more hours before shit takes off. Fuck the slow burn, fuck the world building, just make the fucking thing interesting.


This take is pretty accurate, I'll agree with another that the music is probably the best aspect of the game.

Also TC please post with proper grammar and sentence structure and punctuation. This is a text based forum after all.
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andel
06/08/19 5:18:08 PM
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PrincessCadance posted...
Makeveli_lives posted...
andel posted...
very bad take

God forbid I don't want to have to put in a dozen or more hours before shit takes off. Fuck the slow burn, fuck the world building, just make the fucking thing interesting.


This take is pretty accurate, I'll agree with another that the music is probably the best aspect of the game.

Also TC please post with proper grammar and sentence structure and punctuation. This is a text based forum after all.


nah
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Makeveli_lives
06/08/19 6:19:54 PM
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https://kotaku.com/jrpg-publisher-removes-producer-from-new-games-credits-1835346097

What do you think of this TC? Bad business in my mind but hey
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andel
06/08/19 6:22:53 PM
#84:


Makeveli_lives posted...
https://kotaku.com/jrpg-publisher-removes-producer-from-new-games-credits-1835346097

What do you think of this TC? Bad business in my mind but hey


yeah, that is a real shame because she was instrumental in localizing all these games and is a huge reason we even have them in english
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GiftedACIII
06/08/19 6:39:26 PM
#85:


andel posted...
Makeveli_lives posted...
https://kotaku.com/jrpg-publisher-removes-producer-from-new-games-credits-1835346097

What do you think of this TC? Bad business in my mind but hey


yeah, that is a real shame because she was instrumental in localizing all these games and is a huge reason we even have them in english


Yeah, I heard how integral she was to the localization too. There were people doubting whether the series would all come here because of that which is one of the reasons I was wary on starting this. To not credit her hard work is inexcusable. I hope they change that policy. I know a hat in times dev had controversy over something similar and the article says even Rockstar did.
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spikethedevil
06/09/19 4:25:51 AM
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ITT: People that dont know what weeb actually means.
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dotsdfe
06/09/19 4:32:26 AM
#87:


dotsdfe posted...
I might grab CS2 today.

CS1 was a slooooooooooooow burn and a bumpy road, but the story ramped up a ton at the end and left off on a pretty great cliffhanger. I'm interested to see where it goes in 2.

I've waited for a bit, too. I beat 1 after getting it on a PSN sale on PS3 last September or so, but the PS4 remasters were announced in the meantime, so I decided to wait for the PS4 version of 2.


I couldn't find it.

I figured the remasters wouldn't be super super rare, but they seem to be, unless I just had bad luck today.
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Raikuro
06/09/19 10:03:29 AM
#88:


dotsdfe posted...
I couldn't find it.

I figured the remasters wouldn't be super super rare, but they seem to be, unless I just had bad luck today.

https://smile.amazon.com/Legend-Heroes-Trails-Steel-Relentless-PlayStation/dp/B07JVCK516
right there, still in stock
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andel
06/09/19 4:01:57 PM
#89:


i just started cold steel i on ps4. gonna replay these two games on ps4 then replay all the trails in the sky games before cold steel 3 comes out in november
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OmegaShinkai
06/09/19 4:10:19 PM
#90:


The framerate problems for CS2 PS4 are abysmal, you'd think a ported Vita game wouldn't have this much trouble with some fog or particle effects.
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andel
06/09/19 4:19:31 PM
#91:


OmegaShinkai posted...
The framerate problems for CS2 PS4 are abysmal, you'd think a ported Vita game wouldn't have this much trouble with some fog or particle effects.


i havent noticed anything yet but i have just started and cleared the first level of the old schoolhouse. one thing i do really like is the turbo mode
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OmegaShinkai
06/09/19 4:31:03 PM
#92:


andel posted...
OmegaShinkai posted...
The framerate problems for CS2 PS4 are abysmal, you'd think a ported Vita game wouldn't have this much trouble with some fog or particle effects.


i havent noticed anything yet but i have just started and cleared the first level of the old schoolhouse. one thing i do really like is the turbo mode

There's no real FPS problems in CS1, but in 2 even early on in scenes where Vita Clotilde shows up, there's massive framerate drops from the particle effects around her and the game really chugs when you return to Legram and the fog around the town is especially thick.

Edit: Apparently it's just a problem on the Pro because it runs on my regular PS4 just fine with barely any drops. From what I've seen on Pro it performs just as bad if not worse than the PS3 version.
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southcoast09
06/09/19 4:39:48 PM
#93:


andel posted...
Axiom posted...
No. No you don't. It's tedious and downright cringeworthy. The first three games I never played but Cold Steel doesn't deserve the praise heaped on it by its fanboys


this is an incredibly bad take

Im pretty sure hes not being serious.

Most people who think the combat sucks probably played it on easy mode, where you can just attack until you win.
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dotsdfe
06/09/19 5:52:55 PM
#94:


Raikuro posted...
dotsdfe posted...
I couldn't find it.

I figured the remasters wouldn't be super super rare, but they seem to be, unless I just had bad luck today.

https://smile.amazon.com/Legend-Heroes-Trails-Steel-Relentless-PlayStation/dp/B07JVCK516
right there, still in stock


I guess.

I've been kinda avoiding ordering online a ton because I'm in a weird spot where I order things from Amazon like 3-4 times a year in total, and can't justify getting Prime, but the shipping costs are kinda awful. The last time I planned to order something, it was $8 shipping on a $12 item, and at that point I just decided to go in stores instead. That's kind of been my experience lately.
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Axiom
06/09/19 6:12:11 PM
#95:


southcoast09 posted...
andel posted...
Axiom posted...
No. No you don't. It's tedious and downright cringeworthy. The first three games I never played but Cold Steel doesn't deserve the praise heaped on it by its fanboys


this is an incredibly bad take

Im pretty sure hes not being serious.

Most people who think the combat sucks probably played it on easy mode, where you can just attack until you win.

I didn't say anything about combat but I played it on max difficulty (Because everything else was just too easy) before NG+ and it was still a joke aside from some bosses which just had an insane amount of HP. This post is what I mean by the defense from fans when it comes to this series
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Raikuro
06/09/19 11:28:07 PM
#96:


dotsdfe posted...
Raikuro posted...
dotsdfe posted...
I couldn't find it.

I figured the remasters wouldn't be super super rare, but they seem to be, unless I just had bad luck today.

https://smile.amazon.com/Legend-Heroes-Trails-Steel-Relentless-PlayStation/dp/B07JVCK516
right there, still in stock


I guess.

I've been kinda avoiding ordering online a ton because I'm in a weird spot where I order things from Amazon like 3-4 times a year in total, and can't justify getting Prime, but the shipping costs are kinda awful. The last time I planned to order something, it was $8 shipping on a $12 item, and at that point I just decided to go in stores instead. That's kind of been my experience lately.

It's literally free shipping over $25, and the game is $50...
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AceWingsta
06/09/19 11:33:34 PM
#97:


I just finished the Trails in the Sky the 3rd on nightmare, kind of want the Crossbell games to come over first before I delve into Cold Steel.
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southcoast09
06/09/19 11:34:10 PM
#98:


Axiom posted...
southcoast09 posted...
andel posted...
Axiom posted...
No. No you don't. It's tedious and downright cringeworthy. The first three games I never played but Cold Steel doesn't deserve the praise heaped on it by its fanboys


this is an incredibly bad take

Im pretty sure hes not being serious.

Most people who think the combat sucks probably played it on easy mode, where you can just attack until you win.

I didn't say anything about combat but I played it on max difficulty (Because everything else was just too easy) before NG+ and it was still a joke aside from some bosses which just had an insane amount of HP. This post is what I mean by the defense from fans when it comes to this series

So, youre saying that if someone attacks an excellent game that you like, then you shouldnt defend it?
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