Current Events > Mexico reportedly bends over and offers major concessions in fear of tarrifs

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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 6:59:31 AM
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With just days to go until the Trump administration is set to impose punishing tariffs on Mexico unless the country halts the unprecedented flow of illegal immigrants across the southern border, numerous signs that Mexico would capitulate emerged Thursday -- but it remained unclear Friday morning whether their efforts would satisfy the White House.

Reports in the evening indicated that Mexico's negotiators with Washington have offered to immediately deploy 6,000 National Guard troops to the border with Guatemala. Additionally, Mexico has reportedly agreed to a major overhaul of reasonable asylum protocols, which would require asylum applicants to seek permanent refuge in the first country they arrive in after fleeing their home countries.

For virtually all Central American migrants, that country would not be the United States. The Trump administration has already begun requiring asylum applicants to wait in Mexico while their claims are processed, saying too many applicants were using the system fraudulently to escape into the country. Last month, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals denied a request to stop that practice temporarily.

However, two administration officials tell Fox News that while talks have been going well with Mexico, and that Mexico is making some fresh proposals, there is not yet a deal that U.S. officials are sure to imminently accept.

Also on Thursday, Mexico's financial intelligence agency announced it had frozen the bank accounts of 26 people who it claimed "have presumably participated in migrant smuggling and the organization of illegal migrant caravans."

The agency said it had detected money transfers from central Mexico to six Mexican border cities presumably related to the caravans.

Mexican President Andrs Manuel Lpez Obrador insisted on Thursday that the Mexican government does not "act against anybody to please any foreign government."

Meanwhile, some 200 Mexican military police, immigration agents and federal police blocked the advance of about 1,000 Central American migrants who were walking north along a southern Mexico highway on Wednesday, once again showing a tougher new stance on attempts to use the country as a stepping-stone to the U.S.

The group of migrants, including many women and children, set out early from Ciudad Hidalgo at the Mexico-Guatemala border and was headed for Tapachula, the principal city in the region. State and local police accompanied the caravan.

The officials blocked the highway near the community of Metapa, about 11 miles from Tapachula.

Unarmed agents wrestled some migrants who resisted to the ground, but the vast majority complied and boarded buses or immigration agency vans. Some migrants fainted and fell to the ground. One young man who collapsed was taken for medical attention.

That afternoon, in Mexico City, police detained Irineo Mujica, the head of migrant aide group Pueblo Sin Fronteras, and Cristobal Sanchez, a migrant activist.

Vice President Mike Pence, monitoring the talks from his travels in Pennsylvania, said the U.S. was "encouraged" by Mexico's latest proposals but, so far, tariffs still were set to take effect Monday.

Trump, in announcing the tariffs last week, promised that they would swiftly increase if no action was taken. The president declared Wednesday evening that "not nearly enough" progress was being made in last-minute negotiations with Mexico.

"On June 10th, the United States will impose a 5% Tariff on all goods coming into our Country from Mexico, until such time as illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP," Trump said on May 30. "The Tariff will gradually increase until the Illegal Immigration problem is remedied, ... ..at which time the Tariffs will be removed. Details from the White House to follow."

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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 6:59:50 AM
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The tariff on all goods by land, sea, and air from Mexico will hike to 10 percent on July 1 -- and potentially increase substantially from there.

"If Mexico still has not taken action to dramatically reduce or eliminate the number of illegal aliens crossing its territory into the United States, Tariffs will be increased to 15 percent on August 1, 2019, to 20 percent on September 1, 2019, and to 25 percent on October 1, 2019," Trump said in a statement released later by the White House on Thursday. "Tariffs will permanently remain at the 25 percent level unless and until Mexico substantially stops the illegal inflow of aliens coming through its territory."

The statement added: "Thousands of innocent lives are taken every year as a result of this lawless chaos. It must end NOW! ... Mexicos passive cooperation in allowing this mass incursion constitutes an emergency and extraordinary threat to the national security and economy of the United States."

Specifically, White House sources told Fox News that Mexico would need to step up security efforts on the border, target transnational smugglers, crack down on illicit bus lines and align with the U.S. on a workable asylum policy. Mexico could use certain so-called choke points on the southern border to curb illegal migration sharply, according to the sources.

Arrests along the southern border have skyrocketed in recent months, with border agents making more than 100,000 arrests or denials of entry in March, a 12-year high. Immigration courts that process asylum claims currently have faced a backlog of more than 800,000 cases and asylum applicants increasingly have been staying in the U.S. even after their claims for asylum have been denied.

More than 4,000 individuals have been apprehended at the border with children who are not their own in recent months, administration officials tell Fox News.

And, Customs and Border Protection said it apprehended or turned away over 109,000 migrants attempting to cross the border in April, the second month in a row the number has topped 100,000.

In a dramatic moment, more than 1,000 illegal immigrants were apprehended by border agents near the U.S.-Mexico border last week -- the largest ever group of migrants ever apprehended at a single time, sources told Fox News. The group of 1,036 illegal immigrants found in the El Paso sector included migrants from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras, according to sources.

The Trump administration has heavily focused on asylum law reforms, making the current reported Mexican overtures in that area particularly important. Asylum law, conservatives point out, is intended to shield individuals from near-certain death or persecution on account of limited factors like religious or political affiliation not poor living conditions and economic despair.

Last year, the Justice Department eliminated gang violence and domestic abuse as a possible justification for seeking asylum.

Most asylum applicants are ultimately rejected for having an insufficient or unfounded personalized fear of persecution, following a full hearing of their case before an asylum officer or an immigration judge.


Full Article: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mexico-deploys-military-to-block-hundreds-of-migrants-as-country-seeks-to-avoid-trump-tariffs

nyXNKWo

Wow... Trump actually won one..
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Scotty_Rogers
06/07/19 7:00:55 AM
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Haha you said bends over
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treewojima
06/07/19 7:03:37 AM
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well that article certainly isn't biased
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gunplagirl
06/07/19 7:04:43 AM
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I'm so looking forward to paying $5 for a piece of fruit thanks to Trump.
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 7:05:21 AM
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treewojima posted...
well that article certainly isn't biased

I don't see the bias in the article...
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gunplagirl
06/07/19 7:08:00 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
treewojima posted...
well that article certainly isn't biased

I don't see the bias in the article...

The things you don't see yet are in plain view could fill an entire encyclopedia series.
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 7:12:27 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
treewojima posted...
well that article certainly isn't biased

I don't see the bias in the article...

The things you don't see yet are in plain view could fill an entire encyclopedia series.

Then they should be easy to point out

Yet you can't do it and instead are acting exactly 100% like how someone with no point would act.

Curious
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gunplagirl
06/07/19 8:01:13 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
gunplagirl posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
treewojima posted...
well that article certainly isn't biased

I don't see the bias in the article...

The things you don't see yet are in plain view could fill an entire encyclopedia series.

Then they should be easy to point out

Yet you can't do it and instead are acting exactly 100% like how someone with no point would act.

Curious


Indication one of bias

Let's start from the bottom

foxnews link

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Antifar
06/07/19 8:05:26 AM
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Every article is biased. Every writer is biased.
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 8:16:08 AM
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gunplagirl posted...


Indication one of bias

Let's start from the bottom

foxnews link

Antifar posted...
Every article is biased. Every writer is biased.

So you can't actually point out what in the article is biased...
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Antifar
06/07/19 8:51:48 AM
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It's written by a human who, like every human, has biases. This is different from the piece being wrong or inaccurate. But the choices of what info to include in this piece (as with every other piece ever written) are shaped by the writer's biases. Which, isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 9:26:24 AM
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So you can't actually point out what in the article is biased...

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Lordgold666
06/07/19 9:30:21 AM
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Antifar posted...
Every article is biased. Every writer is biased.

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SK8T3R215
06/07/19 9:44:36 AM
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Lol @ how this topic got derailed
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 9:45:06 AM
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If you can't point out what about the article is biased then you have no argument and going "It's biased" just means "I don't like it!"
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spudger
06/07/19 9:46:00 AM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
Lol @ how this topic got derailed

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Caution998
06/07/19 9:46:00 AM
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Beautiful thing.
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FrisbeeDude
06/07/19 9:48:31 AM
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when they put the link at the end of an article...an article they used 2 separate posts to put up

lmao fuck outta here. Was right to scroll to the bottom first in order to avoid reading trash.
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Vicious_Dios
06/07/19 9:50:45 AM
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Awesome.
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Antifar
06/07/19 10:49:51 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
then you have no argument and going "It's biased" just means "I don't like it!"

That's not my argument. Bias is inevitable, it's not bad. I'm saying that criticizing an article because it's "biased" is silly. It being "misleading" would be another story, but I don't know enough to say that this article is.
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 10:51:13 AM
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If you can't point out a single biased thing about the article and everything and every story is always biased no matter what, then what's the point in saying nothing but "THIS IS BIASED!"?

And he was never seen again
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Antifar
06/07/19 10:52:03 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
If you can't point out a single biased thing about the article and everything and every story is always biased no matter what, then what's the point in saying nothing but "THIS IS BIASED!"?

I wasn't the one who said that; I was responding to someone who did.
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 10:54:53 AM
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Yeah I didn't think you had a point either.
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Kolibri X
06/07/19 11:00:35 AM
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Who would've thunk the Mexicans would respond smarter than the Chinese.
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Shuto-uke
06/07/19 11:02:35 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Wow... Trump actually won one..


Now he knows there is at least one world leader weak enough to get bullied by him. So this particular leader (obrador) will be recipient of bully behavior for years to come.

Good going mexico, LOL.
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Old NoiseTank
06/07/19 11:04:00 AM
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can we talk about that picture now
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 11:04:10 AM
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Shuto-uke posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Wow... Trump actually won one..


Now he knows there is at least one world leader weak enough to get bullied by him. So this particular leader (obrador) will be recipient of bully behavior for years to come.

Good going mexico, LOL.

Yeah that's what worries me

I'm on America's side obviously but the fact the bully tactic worked just means Trump will do it more often

And playing chicken with the lives and wellbeing of US citizens on the line is a bad thing
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Shuto-uke
06/07/19 11:07:37 AM
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Here is a revolutionary thought.... why not build the wall... in the mexico border with guatemala?

the border there is FAR smaller than the mexico-us one:

Trump gets to say he built the wall, trump gets to say that mexico paid for it (by having the wall built in THEIR territory), trump gets to say he solved the central and south american illegal immigrant crisis (note: mexico is in north america).

Obrador gets to stop bending over and saying "one more please, sir", and gets to solve his own immigration crisis (these people go through mexico and stay there if they can't make it here), and maybe can ask in return that trump stops treating mexicans like not-humans, at least from a rhetoric point of view.

Win-win?
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UnfairRepresent
06/07/19 11:14:03 PM
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Mexico's capitulation pays off, Trumps backpedals on tarrifs thanks to their actions.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1137161161470894080

So expect more of this "playing chicken" shit from Trump in future
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Shuto-uke
06/08/19 12:04:30 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Mexico's capitulation pays off, Trumps backpedals on tarrifs thanks to their actions.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1137161161470894080

So expect more of this "playing chicken" shit from Trump in future


yeah the mexicans dun goofed lol
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Rob Cesternino
06/08/19 1:08:25 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
Who would've thunk the Mexicans would respond smarter than the Chinese.


You do realize this is a weak third world country like Mexico folding like a house of cards at the slightest hint of economic pressure?

Not that I actually believe they will follow through on their promises.
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Dampproof
06/08/19 1:18:14 AM
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How is that wall coming along?
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Guide
06/08/19 1:20:23 AM
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Unironically linking to foxnews dot com.

Corroborate this with any well-reputed source and you got yourself an on-topic, instead of the brown spray that you deserve.
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Guide
06/08/19 1:27:44 AM
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Spooking posted...
The left can't stand it when Trump gets a win for America.


Even Sanders praised Trump for trying to seek peace talks with N Korea. So.

Shut the fuck up.
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southcoast09
06/08/19 1:28:41 AM
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Big victory for President Trump.
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Questionmarktarius
06/08/19 1:30:40 AM
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Mexico got misled and screwed.
The country exporting the stuff doesn't pay the tariff. The person or corporation importing it does, and almost always passes the cost along to the end consumer.
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bevan306
06/08/19 1:31:04 AM
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a claim from mexico that they'll do more to secure their southern border is not a major concession or a win for anyone. It's a job they should already be doing

A win for trump would be if illegal crossings come down to the level america enjoyed under obama (a good president). Right now they're the highest in a decade.
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Questionmarktarius
06/08/19 1:35:37 AM
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bevan306 posted...
A win for trump would be if illegal crossings come down to the level america enjoyed under obama (a good president). Right now they're the highest in a decade.

Make E-Verify public.
Do a "Postville raid" weekly.

Crack the fuck down on the demand side, and illegal immigration will collapse to a trickle of those guys outside Home Depot at 6AM.
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Heineken14
06/08/19 1:41:49 AM
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So, Mexico tells them they will totes do something and Donnie backs off his tough talk? Man, first he definitely schooled North Korea and now Mexico?!!? Supreme negotiator!
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southcoast09
06/08/19 1:46:18 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
So, Mexico tells them they will totes do something and Donnie backs off his tough talk? Man, first he definitely schooled North Korea and now Mexico?!!? Supreme negotiator!

He made a threat and they caved in epic proportions. This was a big victory for him. It proves that he has major leverage on them and that theyre afraid he will use it if they continue to allow this level of immigration.
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ThePrinceFish
06/08/19 1:47:58 AM
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Rob Cesternino posted...
Kolibri X posted...
Who would've thunk the Mexicans would respond smarter than the Chinese.


You do realize this is a weak third world country like Mexico folding like a house of cards at the slightest hint of economic pressure?

Not that I actually believe they will follow through on their promises.

I like your style
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Questionmarktarius
06/08/19 1:49:45 AM
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In the end, it wouldn't take much to "fix" Mexico, and Central America is a complete shitshow because of American meddling from the 50s and 60s.

The only central american nation we didn't ruin was Panama, and holy shit did we try.
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Bat178
06/08/19 1:50:39 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
In the end, it wouldn't take much to "fix" Mexico, and Central America is a complete shitshow because of American meddling from the 50s and 60s.

The only central american nation we didn't ruin was Panama, and holy shit did we try.

What about Belize and Costa Rica?
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southcoast09
06/08/19 1:51:50 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
In the end, it wouldn't take much to "fix" Mexico, and Central America is a complete shitshow because of American meddling from the 50s and 60s.

The only central american nation we didn't ruin was Panama, and holy shit did we try.

Oh, here we go...
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Questionmarktarius
06/08/19 1:51:57 AM
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Bat178 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
In the end, it wouldn't take much to "fix" Mexico, and Central America is a complete shitshow because of American meddling from the 50s and 60s.

The only central american nation we didn't ruin was Panama, and holy shit did we try.

What about Belize and Costa Rica?

Ambiguously ruined?
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UnfairRepresent
06/08/19 1:52:51 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
Big victory for President Trump.

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marc55
06/08/19 1:55:40 AM
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bevan306 posted...
a claim from mexico that they'll do more to secure their southern border is not a major concession or a win for anyone. It's a job they should already be doing

A win for trump would be if illegal crossings come down to the level america enjoyed under obama (a good president). Right now they're the highest in a decade.


hmm how do we know stuff like this is pretty much common and trump just wants to take credit for it ?
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iron jojo
06/08/19 2:04:46 AM
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Has anyone pointed out the bias yet or is it the usual "lalala I don't want to hear it because it doesn't fit my narrative"
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