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DarkRoast 06/03/19 12:49:03 PM #1:	Admit it, You let Tullius kill him instead --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922732840] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>Admit it, You let Tullius kill him instead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 06/03/19 12:52:58 PM #2:	I resolved the Civil War peacefully solely so that I could kick Elenwen out of the negotiations. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:922733010] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>I resolved the Civil War peacefully solely so that I could kick Elenwen out of the negotiations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 06/03/19 12:55:26 PM #3:	I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/nHeqezb.png Don't Hate, Celebrate <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:922733118] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/03/19 1:10:51 PM #4:	Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922733692] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/03/19 1:11:43 PM #5:	Swagnificent119 posted... It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. It's just the death he deserves for the chaos and turmoil he caused. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:922733723] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. </quote> It's just the death he deserves for the chaos and turmoil he caused.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 06/03/19 1:12:39 PM #6:	Ulfric deserves the most shameful death possible, and that means not getting to be put down by the Dragonborn. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say 'Golly gee, I can't do that" Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:922733765] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>Ulfric deserves the most shameful death possible, and that means not getting to be put down by the Dragonborn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 06/03/19 1:13:48 PM #7:	DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is --- https://i.imgtc.ws/nHeqezb.png Don't Hate, Celebrate <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:922733804] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor</quote> Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/03/19 1:14:40 PM #8:	Swagnificent119 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is He's not just an asset He was literally brainwashed --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922733836] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor</quote> Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is</quote> He's not just an asset He was literally brainwashed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 06/03/19 1:17:32 PM #9:	DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is He's not just an asset He was literally brainwashed No he wasnt lmfao --- https://i.imgtc.ws/nHeqezb.png Don't Hate, Celebrate <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:922733945] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor</quote> Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is</quote> He's not just an asset He was literally brainwashed</quote> No he wasnt lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 06/03/19 1:18:24 PM #10:	Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. Even in his last minutes, his biggest concern was his fame and legacy. "It would make for a better song." Oh please. He was an egotistical blowhard to the end. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:922733988] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> Even in his last minutes, his biggest concern was his fame and legacy. "It would make for a better song." Oh please. He was an egotistical blowhard to the end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/03/19 1:24:11 PM #11:	Annihilated posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. Even in his last minutes, his biggest concern was his fame and legacy. "It would make for a better song." Oh please. He was an egotistical blowhard to the end. This. He was even the cause of Thalmor actually enforcing the treaty to begin with, if I recall correctly, as several PCs reference nothing really being done until his rebellion basically forced them to actually enforce the terms and allow Thalmor about. Then going and blasting the High King apart simply to destabilise Skyrim and as a show of power is yet more evidence that he was far more concerned with himself than anything else (the fact the High King was a secret Talos worshipper just makes Ulfric's actions even more LOL worthy) --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:922734217] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> Even in his last minutes, his biggest concern was his fame and legacy. "It would make for a better song." Oh please. He was an egotistical blowhard to the end.</quote> This. He was even the cause of Thalmor actually enforcing the treaty to begin with, if I recall correctly, as several PCs reference nothing really being done until his rebellion basically forced them to actually enforce the terms and allow Thalmor about. Then going and blasting the High King apart simply to destabilise Skyrim and as a show of power is yet more evidence that he was far more concerned with himself than anything else (the fact the High King was a secret Talos worshipper just makes Ulfric's actions even more LOL worthy)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 06/03/19 1:24:32 PM #12:	Skyrim belongs to the Nords! --- I use Gameraven and you should too. http://error1355.com/ce/teepan95.html <cite>teepan95 posted [p:922734226] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>Skyrim belongs to the Nords!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/03/19 1:24:38 PM #13:	Swagnificent119 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is He's not just an asset He was literally brainwashed No he wasnt lmfao They literally convinced him that his actions resulted in Cyrodiil being captured, which set in motion his belief that he was destined to bring down the empire. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922734234] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor</quote> Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is</quote> He's not just an asset He was literally brainwashed</quote> No he wasnt lmfao</quote> They literally convinced him that his actions resulted in Cyrodiil being captured, which set in motion his belief that he was destined to bring down the empire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 06/03/19 1:26:46 PM #14:	Ulfric is the definition of useful idiot. He's not trying to save Skyrim. He thinks he is, but it's only for his own legacy. In fact he threatens the stability of the country and weakens everyone. The only winner is the Dominion. Nice work, Jarl Dipshit of Dipshithelm. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say 'Golly gee, I can't do that" Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:922734318] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>Ulfric is the definition of useful idiot. He's not trying to save Skyrim. He thinks he is, but it's only for his own legacy. In fact he threatens the stability of the country and weakens everyone. The only winner is the Dominion. Nice work, Jarl Dipshit of Dipshithelm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 1:33:26 PM #15:	I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922734589] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/03/19 1:38:43 PM #16:	mooreandrew58 posted... I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion. -Rebel against Empire so you can worship the first emperor- --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922734806] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion.</quote> -Rebel against Empire so you can worship the first emperor-</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 06/03/19 1:39:12 PM #17:	mooreandrew58 posted... I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion. In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:922734832] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion.</quote> In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 06/03/19 1:40:02 PM #18:	DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:922734866] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 06/03/19 1:41:19 PM #19:	DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is He's not just an asset He was literally brainwashed No he wasnt lmfao They literally convinced him that his actions resulted in Cyrodiil being captured, which set in motion his belief that he was destined to bring down the empire. That's not brainwashing though. You saying he was brainwashed gives him more credit. They just lied to him and he bought it. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/nHeqezb.png Don't Hate, Celebrate <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:922734935] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor</quote> Lol people still say this and have no idea what an asset is</quote> He's not just an asset He was literally brainwashed</quote> No he wasnt lmfao</quote> They literally convinced him that his actions resulted in Cyrodiil being captured, which set in motion his belief that he was destined to bring down the empire.</quote> That's not brainwashing though. You saying he was brainwashed gives him more credit. They just lied to him and he bought it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/03/19 1:41:34 PM #20:	Annihilated posted... mooreandrew58 posted... I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion. In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies. Wasn't that basically not a thing at all until his rebellion? I do recall several NPCs mentioning was little to no real enforcement of it until then when they had to make an actual show of it to appease the terms. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:922734945] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion.</quote> In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies.</quote> Wasn't that basically not a thing at all until his rebellion? I do recall several NPCs mentioning was little to no real enforcement of it until then when they had to make an actual show of it to appease the terms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 1:45:55 PM #21:	Annihilated posted... mooreandrew58 posted... I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion. In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies. Necessary allies? Iirc tullius or whoever legit said all thr empire was biding its time and building its strength until they had a chance of winning a fight with them. Another reason I prefer them. They actually try to be smart about it. Annihilated posted... mooreandrew58 posted... I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion. In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies. Still its far easier to hide religion. If I where relgious and it got banned punishable by death id just quietly pray alone in my room at night. Talos was once a man im sure hed understand you are more useful to the cause alive rather than dead. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922735109] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion.</quote> In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies.</quote> Necessary allies? Iirc tullius or whoever legit said all thr empire was biding its time and building its strength until they had a chance of winning a fight with them. Another reason I prefer them. They actually try to be smart about it. <cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion.</quote> In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies.</quote> Still its far easier to hide religion. If I where relgious and it got banned punishable by death id just quietly pray alone in my room at night. Talos was once a man im sure hed understand you are more useful to the cause alive rather than dead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 06/03/19 1:47:14 PM #22:	mooreandrew58 posted... I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion. So it's better to be killed because of your beliefs then to be called mean words. Funkydog posted... Annihilated posted... mooreandrew58 posted... I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion. In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies. Wasn't that basically not a thing at all until his rebellion? I do recall several NPCs mentioning was little to no real enforcement of it until then when they had to make an actual show of it to appease the terms. It was only a matter of time until they did it anyway. The rebellion was just a excuse. <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:922735166] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion.</quote> So it's better to be killed because of your beliefs then to be called mean words. <cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>I side with the imperials over stormcloaks for two reasons. One I'll take persecution of religion over racism as you can at least somewhat hide your religion and two a united empire holds a better chance of beating the dominion.</quote> In Ulfric's defense, the systematic jailing and slaughtering of people for their beliefs is kind of worse than graylining in Windhelm and paying slave wages to Argonian dock workers. Though the anti Talos crusade tends to be more of a Thalmor Justiciar thing than an empire thing. A lot of imperial soldiers don't like the Thalmor, but see them as necessary allies.</quote> Wasn't that basically not a thing at all until his rebellion? I do recall several NPCs mentioning was little to no real enforcement of it until then when they had to make an actual show of it to appease the terms.</quote> It was only a matter of time until they did it anyway. The rebellion was just a excuse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 1:50:45 PM #23:	Tsukasa1891 posted... So it's better to be killed because of your beliefs then to be called mean words Once again. You can hide your religion. Those who dont are fools. The empire doesnt plan to stand for it either. They just know they at the moment dont stand a chance. Basically I'm looking at the long term game. Stormcloaks only see today. And the dominion woukd likely slaughter them without the empires protection. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922735305] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote>So it's better to be killed because of your beliefs then to be called mean words</quote> Once again. You can hide your religion. Those who dont are fools. The empire doesnt plan to stand for it either. They just know they at the moment dont stand a chance. Basically I'm looking at the long term game. Stormcloaks only see today. And the dominion woukd likely slaughter them without the empires protection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 06/03/19 2:07:03 PM #24:	Tsukasa1891 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:922736052] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 2:24:19 PM #25:	GeneralKenobi85 posted... Tsukasa1891 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire. Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922736820] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire.</quote> Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 06/03/19 2:27:29 PM #26:	mooreandrew58 posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... Tsukasa1891 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire. Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire. NPCs also make pretty clear that both sides know that it's more a truce than anything. Both the Empire and the Thalmor seem to have plans to continue the war down the road. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Arbiter's Tome/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire <cite>bover_87 posted [p:922736967] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire.</quote> Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire.</quote> NPCs also make pretty clear that both sides know that it's more a truce than anything. Both the Empire and the Thalmor seem to have plans to continue the war down the road.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 06/03/19 2:29:55 PM #27:	I kill him then i go slaughter all the stormcloak camps i can find. --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:922737077] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>I kill him then i go slaughter all the stormcloak camps i can find.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 2:29:58 PM #28:	bover_87 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... Tsukasa1891 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire. Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire. NPCs also make pretty clear that both sides know that it's more a truce than anything. Both the Empire and the Thalmor seem to have plans to continue the war down the road. And the dominion is kind of dumb for accepting a truce but I understand. But the empire seemed confident if they didnt accept the truce the dominion would have laid waste to them easily --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922737080] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>bover_87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire.</quote> Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire.</quote> NPCs also make pretty clear that both sides know that it's more a truce than anything. Both the Empire and the Thalmor seem to have plans to continue the war down the road.</quote> And the dominion is kind of dumb for accepting a truce but I understand. But the empire seemed confident if they didnt accept the truce the dominion would have laid waste to them easily</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 06/03/19 2:31:48 PM #29:	mooreandrew58 posted... bover_87 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... Tsukasa1891 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire. Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire. NPCs also make pretty clear that both sides know that it's more a truce than anything. Both the Empire and the Thalmor seem to have plans to continue the war down the road. And the dominion is kind of dumb for accepting a truce but I understand. But the empire seemed confident if they didnt accept the truce the dominion would have laid waste to them easily It's never said in-game, but my guess is that the Thalmor want to try to weaken the Empire from within (using tactics like stirring the Stormcloak pot) before they invade. The consensus is that they would win now but would suffer massive losses doing so. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Arbiter's Tome/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire <cite>bover_87 posted [p:922737146] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bover_87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire.</quote> Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire.</quote> NPCs also make pretty clear that both sides know that it's more a truce than anything. Both the Empire and the Thalmor seem to have plans to continue the war down the road.</quote> And the dominion is kind of dumb for accepting a truce but I understand. But the empire seemed confident if they didnt accept the truce the dominion would have laid waste to them easily</quote> It's never said in-game, but my guess is that the Thalmor want to try to weaken the Empire from within (using tactics like stirring the Stormcloak pot) before they invade. The consensus is that they would win now but would suffer massive losses doing so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 2:37:46 PM #30:	bover_87 posted... The consensus is that they would win now but would suffer massive losses doing so. Thats the reason I said I understand them accepting the truce. Saying they where kinda dumb for it was viewing it in a no morals better gurantee of getting what you want sorta way --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922737375] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>bover_87 posted...</cite> <quote> The consensus is that they would win now but would suffer massive losses doing so.</quote> Thats the reason I said I understand them accepting the truce. Saying they where kinda dumb for it was viewing it in a no morals better gurantee of getting what you want sorta way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 06/03/19 2:42:16 PM #31:	mooreandrew58 posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... Tsukasa1891 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire. Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire. Indeed. One of the goals of the Thalmor that seems pretty clear is that they want to wipe out all races of Men. But their potential ultimate goal is tied to the Talos worship ban. A lot of TES fans believe that the Thalmor want to undo all of reality as they view their mortal forms as prisons. Talos is literally holding all of reality together. In TES, worship directly affects a deity. So if there are no longer any people worshipping a god, they no longer exist. Or they lose their power at the very least. It's a bit more complicated than that though, and I probably did a poor job of explaining it. Of course it's just a theory and not officially canon. Obviously TES won't be ending any time soon. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:922737575] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire.</quote> Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire.</quote> Indeed. One of the goals of the Thalmor that seems pretty clear is that they want to wipe out all races of Men. But their potential ultimate goal is tied to the Talos worship ban. A lot of TES fans believe that the Thalmor want to undo all of reality as they view their mortal forms as prisons. Talos is literally holding all of reality together. In TES, worship directly affects a deity. So if there are no longer any people worshipping a god, they no longer exist. Or they lose their power at the very least. It's a bit more complicated than that though, and I probably did a poor job of explaining it. Of course it's just a theory and not officially canon. Obviously TES won't be ending any time soon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 06/03/19 2:44:43 PM #32:	The Thalmor feared a Stormcloak victory more than the status quo of Imperial Rule. If Ulfric was "brainwashed" they wouldn't have feared such an outcome. It's literally in the same documents that everyone uses to misunderstand what "asset" means in that context. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZUzXKDVx8 <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:922737672] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>The Thalmor feared a Stormcloak victory more than the status quo of Imperial Rule. If Ulfric was "brainwashed" they wouldn't have feared such an outcome. It's literally in the same documents that everyone uses to misunderstand what "asset" means in that context.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 2:44:54 PM #33:	GeneralKenobi85 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... Tsukasa1891 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire. Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire. Indeed. One of the goals of the Thalmor that seems pretty clear is that they want to wipe out all races of Men. But their potential ultimate goal is tied to the Talos worship ban. A lot of TES fans believe that the Thalmor want to undo all of reality as they view their mortal forms as prisons. Talos is literally holding all of reality together. In TES, worship directly affects a deity. So if there are no longer any people worshipping a god, they no longer exist. It's a bit more complicated than that though, and I probably did a poor job of explaining it. Bear in mind though that it's just a theory and not canon. Or it could be true and Bethesda just isn't going to confirm. Obviously TES won't be ending any time soon. The lack of worship making a god stop existing seems odd. Never ran across anything like that in the games. Some obscure book i didnt read perhaps? --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922737680] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire.</quote> Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire.</quote> Indeed. One of the goals of the Thalmor that seems pretty clear is that they want to wipe out all races of Men. But their potential ultimate goal is tied to the Talos worship ban. A lot of TES fans believe that the Thalmor want to undo all of reality as they view their mortal forms as prisons. Talos is literally holding all of reality together. In TES, worship directly affects a deity. So if there are no longer any people worshipping a god, they no longer exist. It's a bit more complicated than that though, and I probably did a poor job of explaining it. Bear in mind though that it's just a theory and not canon. Or it could be true and Bethesda just isn't going to confirm. Obviously TES won't be ending any time soon.</quote> The lack of worship making a god stop existing seems odd. Never ran across anything like that in the games. Some obscure book i didnt read perhaps?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 06/03/19 2:46:52 PM #34:	Vyrulisse posted... The Thalmor feared a Stormcloak victory more than the status quo of Imperial Rule. If Ulfric was "brainwashed" they wouldn't have feared such an outcome. It's literally in the same documents that everyone uses to misunderstand what "asset" means in that context. The Thalmor's goal is to continue the conflict as long as possible, draining resources from the Empire as well as the Stormcloaks. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Arbiter's Tome/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire <cite>bover_87 posted [p:922737762] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>The Thalmor feared a Stormcloak victory more than the status quo of Imperial Rule. If Ulfric was "brainwashed" they wouldn't have feared such an outcome. It's literally in the same documents that everyone uses to misunderstand what "asset" means in that context.</quote> The Thalmor's goal is to continue the conflict as long as possible, draining resources from the Empire as well as the Stormcloaks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 06/03/19 2:48:38 PM #35:	bover_87 posted... Vyrulisse posted... The Thalmor feared a Stormcloak victory more than the status quo of Imperial Rule. If Ulfric was "brainwashed" they wouldn't have feared such an outcome. It's literally in the same documents that everyone uses to misunderstand what "asset" means in that context. The Thalmor's goal is to continue the conflict as long as possible, draining resources from the Empire as well as the Stormcloaks. Yes but they'd rather deal with a gravely wounded Empire than Skyrim frothing at the mouth with angry Nords boosted by Talos worship and fighting a religious war that's for sure. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZUzXKDVx8 <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:922737830] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>bover_87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>The Thalmor feared a Stormcloak victory more than the status quo of Imperial Rule. If Ulfric was "brainwashed" they wouldn't have feared such an outcome. It's literally in the same documents that everyone uses to misunderstand what "asset" means in that context.</quote> The Thalmor's goal is to continue the conflict as long as possible, draining resources from the Empire as well as the Stormcloaks.</quote> Yes but they'd rather deal with a gravely wounded Empire than Skyrim frothing at the mouth with angry Nords boosted by Talos worship and fighting a religious war that's for sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 06/03/19 2:55:25 PM #36:	mooreandrew58 posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... Tsukasa1891 posted... DarkRoast posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything. He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor. I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor. The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire. Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire. Indeed. One of the goals of the Thalmor that seems pretty clear is that they want to wipe out all races of Men. But their potential ultimate goal is tied to the Talos worship ban. A lot of TES fans believe that the Thalmor want to undo all of reality as they view their mortal forms as prisons. Talos is literally holding all of reality together. In TES, worship directly affects a deity. So if there are no longer any people worshipping a god, they no longer exist. It's a bit more complicated than that though, and I probably did a poor job of explaining it. Bear in mind though that it's just a theory and not canon. Or it could be true and Bethesda just isn't going to confirm. Obviously TES won't be ending any time soon. The lack of worship making a god stop existing seems odd. Never ran across anything like that in the games. Some obscure book i didnt read perhaps? Probably. The idea I presented in my post comes from Michael Kirkbride, a former writer for TES who was responsible for a large part of the lore of the series. I think there's still a lot of debate over whether his interpretation of the lore still holds any weight since he left during Oblivion's development I believe. I only found about that stuff from the TESlore subreddit. They go into detail a lot better and more accurately than I could. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:922738120] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I've only done Legion once and I killed him It's what he wanted. A true warriors death. To deny him and let him die at the hands of some...beurocrat would shame my character more than anything.</quote> He's a brainwashed plant of the Thalmor. He deserves nothing. That psychotic imperial legion Captain who ordered your execution doesn't change the fact that the Stormcloaks are just misguided racist pawns of the Thalmor.</quote> I'm sure the empire will have no problem building up their army again while under the occupation of the Thalmor.</quote> The Thalmor don't occupy any part of the Empire. The Aldmeri Dominion failed to conquer both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell. Both sides were heavily drained militarily from the war. The ability to regulate Talos worship is the only bit of power they have over the Empire.</quote> Iirc the empire indeed beat them out of the imperial city but knew they wouldnt survive another battle so made that deal. Basically a surrender with terms. The dominions terms was no talos worship the empires was they got to keep their empire.</quote> Indeed. One of the goals of the Thalmor that seems pretty clear is that they want to wipe out all races of Men. But their potential ultimate goal is tied to the Talos worship ban. A lot of TES fans believe that the Thalmor want to undo all of reality as they view their mortal forms as prisons. Talos is literally holding all of reality together. In TES, worship directly affects a deity. So if there are no longer any people worshipping a god, they no longer exist. It's a bit more complicated than that though, and I probably did a poor job of explaining it. Bear in mind though that it's just a theory and not canon. Or it could be true and Bethesda just isn't going to confirm. Obviously TES won't be ending any time soon.</quote> The lack of worship making a god stop existing seems odd. Never ran across anything like that in the games. Some obscure book i didnt read perhaps?</quote> Probably. The idea I presented in my post comes from Michael Kirkbride, a former writer for TES who was responsible for a large part of the lore of the series. I think there's still a lot of debate over whether his interpretation of the lore still holds any weight since he left during Oblivion's development I believe. I only found about that stuff from the TESlore subreddit. They go into detail a lot better and more accurately than I could.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 3:07:19 PM #37:	GeneralKenobi85 posted... Probably. The idea I presented in my post comes from Michael Kirkbride, a former writer for TES who was responsible for a large part of the lore of the series. I think there's still a lot of debate over whether his interpretation of the lore still holds any weight since he left during Oblivion's development I believe. I only found about that stuff from the TESlore subreddit. They go into detail a lot better and more accurately than I could Ah well im of the mind if its not in the game I dont consider it a valuable source for the lore. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922738643] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote>Probably. The idea I presented in my post comes from Michael Kirkbride, a former writer for TES who was responsible for a large part of the lore of the series. I think there's still a lot of debate over whether his interpretation of the lore still holds any weight since he left during Oblivion's development I believe. I only found about that stuff from the TESlore subreddit. They go into detail a lot better and more accurately than I could</quote> Ah well im of the mind if its not in the game I dont consider it a valuable source for the lore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Popcorn_Fairy 06/03/19 3:23:14 PM #38:	DarkRoast posted... -Rebel against Empire so you can worship the first emperor- "The Emperor is getting old. Don't know how much longer he'll hang on. So is the whole Empire, for that matter. Getting old, that is. The Emperor and the legions have held the Empire together for hundreds of years. It's been a good thing, by and large. But maybe it's time for a change. Time for something young and new. What? No idea. Because I'm old. Old dog doesn't get new ideas. But maybe young folks like you should try some new ideas. I don't know. Could be messy. But change is never pretty." -Wulf, an Aspect of Tiber Septim. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/RWlGsOl.gif <cite>Popcorn_Fairy posted [p:922739306] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>-Rebel against Empire so you can worship the first emperor-</quote> "The Emperor is getting old. Don't know how much longer he'll hang on. So is the whole Empire, for that matter. Getting old, that is. The Emperor and the legions have held the Empire together for hundreds of years. It's been a good thing, by and large. But maybe it's time for a change. Time for something young and new. What? No idea. Because I'm old. Old dog doesn't get new ideas. But maybe young folks like you should try some new ideas. I don't know. Could be messy. But change is never pretty." -Wulf, an Aspect of Tiber Septim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 06/03/19 3:26:30 PM #39:	mooreandrew58 posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... Probably. The idea I presented in my post comes from Michael Kirkbride, a former writer for TES who was responsible for a large part of the lore of the series. I think there's still a lot of debate over whether his interpretation of the lore still holds any weight since he left during Oblivion's development I believe. I only found about that stuff from the TESlore subreddit. They go into detail a lot better and more accurately than I could Ah well im of the mind if its not in the game I dont consider it a valuable source for the lore. It's one of those things where in-game sources support the idea, but there's no actual confirmation. It's impressive just how much is in the books in the games though. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:922739435] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote>Probably. The idea I presented in my post comes from Michael Kirkbride, a former writer for TES who was responsible for a large part of the lore of the series. I think there's still a lot of debate over whether his interpretation of the lore still holds any weight since he left during Oblivion's development I believe. I only found about that stuff from the TESlore subreddit. They go into detail a lot better and more accurately than I could</quote> Ah well im of the mind if its not in the game I dont consider it a valuable source for the lore.</quote> It's one of those things where in-game sources support the idea, but there's no actual confirmation. It's impressive just how much is in the books in the games though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewerx 06/03/19 3:53:40 PM #40:	Why the hell hasn't that idiot who preaches all day long in the Plains district of Whiterun been arrested as a public nuisance?! --- texty bastard <cite>Firewerx posted [p:922740516] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>Why the hell hasn't that idiot who preaches all day long in the Plains district of Whiterun been arrested as a public nuisance?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 06/03/19 3:54:23 PM #41:	I killed him just cause he was such a jag. --- [break the meta] https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:922740545] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>I killed him just cause he was such a jag.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 06/03/19 3:56:41 PM #42:	Firewerx posted... Why the hell hasn't that idiot who preaches all day long in the Plains district of Whiterun been arrested as a public nuisance?! Why hasn't Nazeem been publicly executed for being an asshole? --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say 'Golly gee, I can't do that" Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:922740648] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Firewerx posted...</cite> <quote>Why the hell hasn't that idiot who preaches all day long in the Plains district of Whiterun been arrested as a public nuisance?!</quote> Why hasn't Nazeem been publicly executed for being an asshole?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 06/03/19 4:03:24 PM #43:	Y'all are forgetting how if Talos were to not be worshipped, the world would end. Ulfric was trying to stop the end of the world, even if he didn't know it Edit: ninja'ed I guess Glad someone brought it up, at least --- I use Gameraven and you should too. http://error1355.com/ce/teepan95.html <cite>teepan95 posted [p:922740921] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>Y'all are forgetting how if Talos were to not be worshipped, the world would end. Ulfric was trying to stop the end of the world, even if he didn't know it Edit: ninja'ed I guess Glad someone brought it up, at least</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 06/03/19 4:12:05 PM #44:	ThePrinceFish posted... Firewerx posted... Why the hell hasn't that idiot who preaches all day long in the Plains district of Whiterun been arrested as a public nuisance?! Why hasn't Nazeem been publicly executed for being an asshole? That's the Dragonborn's job :P --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Arbiter's Tome/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire <cite>bover_87 posted [p:922741282] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Firewerx posted...</cite> <quote>Why the hell hasn't that idiot who preaches all day long in the Plains district of Whiterun been arrested as a public nuisance?!</quote> Why hasn't Nazeem been publicly executed for being an asshole?</quote> That's the Dragonborn's job :P</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 4:40:21 PM #45:	teepan95 posted... Y'all are forgetting how if Talos were to not be worshipped, the world would end. Ulfric was trying to stop the end of the world, even if he didn't know it Edit: ninja'ed I guess Glad someone brought it up, at least How did the world exist before him? And does it have to be public worship. Try as they might the elves can't stop people behind closed doors short of just killing everyone --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922742471] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>teepan95 posted...</cite> <quote>Y'all are forgetting how if Talos were to not be worshipped, the world would end. Ulfric was trying to stop the end of the world, even if he didn't know it Edit: ninja'ed I guess Glad someone brought it up, at least</quote> How did the world exist before him? And does it have to be public worship. Try as they might the elves can't stop people behind closed doors short of just killing everyone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 06/03/19 4:41:40 PM #46:	GeneralKenobi85 posted... I resolved the Civil War peacefully solely so that I could kick Elenwen out of the negotiations. Mah boi --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:922742530] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote>I resolved the Civil War peacefully solely so that I could kick Elenwen out of the negotiations.</quote>Mah boi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/03/19 4:41:53 PM #47:	Letting him be killed by Tullius is just too insulting to pass up --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:922742545] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote>Letting him be killed by Tullius is just too insulting to pass up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 4:43:11 PM #48:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Letting him be killed by Tullius is just too insulting to pass up Never though about it that way. Me personally on my high elf character I made him my permanent dead thrall. He had to serve a high elf in death. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922742603] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Letting him be killed by Tullius is just too insulting to pass up</quote> Never though about it that way. Me personally on my high elf character I made him my permanent dead thrall. He had to serve a high elf in death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
murrica 06/03/19 4:45:41 PM #49:	mooreandrew58 posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... Letting him be killed by Tullius is just too insulting to pass up Never though about it that way. Me personally on my high elf character I made him my permanent dead thrall. He had to serve a high elf in death. Ice cold. --- https://imgur.com/lC4mGIT https://imgur.com/rZwMEQe https://imgur.com/ldsBIPv https://imgur.com/enXxUHa <cite>murrica posted [p:922742705] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Letting him be killed by Tullius is just too insulting to pass up</quote> Never though about it that way. Me personally on my high elf character I made him my permanent dead thrall. He had to serve a high elf in death.</quote> Ice cold.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 06/03/19 4:48:56 PM #50:	murrica posted... mooreandrew58 posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... Letting him be killed by Tullius is just too insulting to pass up Never though about it that way. Me personally on my high elf character I made him my permanent dead thrall. He had to serve a high elf in death. Ice cold. That was my evil character. Not even the most fucked up thing she did. Killed some kids parents while soul trapping them. Made the mother a dead thrall adopted the kids gave them enchanted daggers using their parents souls as gifts and rekilled their mother in their bedroom for them to find when they got home. I was brewing a potion down stairs when I heard a scream from the girl "WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!" I thought to myself ah she found her mother --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922742822] in In Skyrim,... [t:77759146]...</cite> <quote><cite>murrica posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Letting him be killed by Tullius is just too insulting to pass up</quote> Never though about it that way. Me personally on my high elf character I made him my permanent dead thrall. He had to serve a high elf in death.</quote> Ice cold.</quote> That was my evil character. Not even the most fucked up thing she did. Killed some kids parents while soul trapping them. Made the mother a dead thrall adopted the kids gave them enchanted daggers using their parents souls as gifts and rekilled their mother in their bedroom for them to find when they got home. I was brewing a potion down stairs when I heard a scream from the girl "WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!" I thought to myself ah she found her mother</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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