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DarkRoast 06/02/19 1:22:20 PM #1:	We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied. Wonder Woman was pretty well received by everyone. Alita Battle Angel turned out fine. And neither seemed to be received as particularly forward thinking socially. The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly - many of CM's critics probably think Ellen Ripley is a total awesome badass. Which makes me think that they deliberately ginned up the movie's critics in the same way it was obviously done with Ghostbusters - which was a mediocre movie that deserved to be called out, whose critics were silenced by studios who know how to play identity politics to garner support they don't deserve. And the biggest irony of all is that Brie Larson herself was probably the one thing I liked about the film. She's a good actress, unfortunately given a rather lame script and an uncharacteristically bland characterization. The movie itself didn't do her justice. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922693218] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied. Wonder Woman was pretty well received by everyone. Alita Battle Angel turned out fine. And neither seemed to be received as particularly forward thinking socially. The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly - many of CM's critics probably think Ellen Ripley is a total awesome badass. Which makes me think that they deliberately ginned up the movie's critics in the same way it was obviously done with Ghostbusters - which was a mediocre movie that deserved to be called out, whose critics were silenced by studios who know how to play identity politics to garner support they don't deserve. And the biggest irony of all is that Brie Larson herself was probably the one thing I liked about the film. She's a good actress, unfortunately given a rather lame script and an uncharacteristically bland characterization. The movie itself didn't do her justice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 06/02/19 1:23:06 PM #2:	Incel neckbears are still qqin --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:922693240] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>Incel neckbears are still qqin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 06/02/19 1:24:55 PM #3:	First female led MCU movie. Of course it was going to be huge. Hell, it being an MCU movie is a guarantee it's going to be huge. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:922693303] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>First female led MCU movie. Of course it was going to be huge. Hell, it being an MCU movie is a guarantee it's going to be huge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/02/19 1:27:29 PM #4:	DarkRoast posted... The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly - There are absolutely some people who just had it out against CM. The amount of people may or may not be insignificant, but they exist. Just like there were absolutely some people who were against the new Ghostbusters movie because the leads were women(And there were plenty of rational people who had legitimate gripes with it). But basically it's because of those people that Captain Marvel got more attention than necessary. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:922693401] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly - </quote> There are absolutely some people who just had it out against CM. The amount of people may or may not be insignificant, but they exist. Just like there were absolutely some people who were against the new Ghostbusters movie because the leads were women(And there were plenty of rational people who had legitimate gripes with it). But basically it's because of those people that Captain Marvel got more attention than necessary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Donomark 06/02/19 1:30:46 PM #5:	It was a perfectly bland and mediocre movie. Toxic Bros. were unnaturally triggered by it and made it their obsession. --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ <cite>Donomark posted [p:922693513] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>It was a perfectly bland and mediocre movie. Toxic Bros. were unnaturally triggered by it and made it their obsession.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dampproof 06/02/19 1:31:45 PM #6:	DarkRoast posted... We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied. Can you name any beyond Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel recently? The general public would be hard pressed to count beyond the two. DarkRoast posted... The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly Completely ignoring all the YT talking heads and whining topics on this board huh? Bold strategy. --- "Cyberspace is - or can be - a good, friendly and egalitarian place to meet." - Douglas Adams <cite>Dampproof posted [p:922693544] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied. </quote> Can you name any beyond Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel recently? The general public would be hard pressed to count beyond the two. <cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly</quote> Completely ignoring all the YT talking heads and whining topics on this board huh? Bold strategy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/02/19 1:31:45 PM #7:	Umbreon posted... DarkRoast posted... The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly - There are absolutely some people who just had it out against CM. The amount of people may or may not be insignificant, but they exist. Just like there were absolutely some people who were against the new Ghostbusters movie because the leads were women(And there were plenty of rational people who had legitimate gripes with it). But basically it's because of those people that Captain Marvel got more attention than necessary. Of that I have no doubt. I'm just wondering if highlighting them was a strategy to garner support those movies otherwise wouldn't have gotten. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922693545] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly - </quote> There are absolutely some people who just had it out against CM. The amount of people may or may not be insignificant, but they exist. Just like there were absolutely some people who were against the new Ghostbusters movie because the leads were women(And there were plenty of rational people who had legitimate gripes with it). But basically it's because of those people that Captain Marvel got more attention than necessary.</quote> Of that I have no doubt. I'm just wondering if highlighting them was a strategy to garner support those movies otherwise wouldn't have gotten.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/02/19 1:33:53 PM #8:	Dampproof posted... DarkRoast posted... We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied. Can you name any beyond Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel recently? The general public would be hard pressed to count beyond the two. DarkRoast posted... The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly Completely ignoring all the YT talking heads and whining topics on this board huh? Bold strategy. Harley Quinn from Suicide Squad Black Widow (who is getting her own movie) Dark Phoenix --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922693617] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dampproof posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied. </quote> Can you name any beyond Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel recently? The general public would be hard pressed to count beyond the two. <cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>The idea that there's a cabal of misogynistic morons who have it out against CM is silly</quote> Completely ignoring all the YT talking heads and whining topics on this board huh? Bold strategy.</quote> Harley Quinn from Suicide Squad Black Widow (who is getting her own movie) Dark Phoenix</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/02/19 1:36:21 PM #9:	Not sure Harley Quinn is the best example.... --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:922693700] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>Not sure Harley Quinn is the best example....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dampproof 06/02/19 1:38:37 PM #10:	Booty Shorts Harley Quinn is not a good look especially after it gave Margot Robbie very public body image insecurity problems. --- "Cyberspace is - or can be - a good, friendly and egalitarian place to meet." - Douglas Adams <cite>Dampproof posted [p:922693785] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>Booty Shorts Harley Quinn is not a good look especially after it gave Margot Robbie very public body image insecurity problems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 06/02/19 1:39:27 PM #11:	DarkRoast posted... Brie Larson herself was probably the one thing I liked about the film. She's a good actress, unfortunately given a rather lame script and an uncharacteristically bland characterization. The movie itself didn't do her justice. This is exactly how I felt. The movie missed all the beats and there wasn't any emotional impact with any of the scenes. I didn't feel like there was any significant build up to the fights or the supposed badass-ness of Captain Marvel. I liked Brie Larson in the role though. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:922693817] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote> Brie Larson herself was probably the one thing I liked about the film. She's a good actress, unfortunately given a rather lame script and an uncharacteristically bland characterization. The movie itself didn't do her justice.</quote> This is exactly how I felt. The movie missed all the beats and there wasn't any emotional impact with any of the scenes. I didn't feel like there was any significant build up to the fights or the supposed badass-ness of Captain Marvel. I liked Brie Larson in the role though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/02/19 1:41:53 PM #12:	Brie deserved better writing. Kinda got Chris Hemsworth'd into a dull character. Hopefully they get better writers like Thor eventually got. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922693882] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>Brie deserved better writing. Kinda got Chris Hemsworth'd into a dull character. Hopefully they get better writers like Thor eventually got.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Donomark 06/02/19 1:42:11 PM #13:	I liked her more in Avengers: Endgame than I did in her own movie. Her transition from robot with a temper to bland guardian was unengaging. I do think that she can be engaging, it just depends on the script, which is a monumental thing. --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ <cite>Donomark posted [p:922693891] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>I liked her more in Avengers: Endgame than I did in her own movie. Her transition from robot with a temper to bland guardian was unengaging. I do think that she can be engaging, it just depends on the script, which is a monumental thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/02/19 1:44:20 PM #14:	DarkRoast posted... We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied. Which earth have you been living on? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:922693960] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied.</quote> Which earth have you been living on?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Donomark 06/02/19 1:46:47 PM #15:	hockeybub89 posted... DarkRoast posted... We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied. Which earth have you been living on? It depends on the context. They're not uncommon as characters that exist in genre fiction. They are uncommon as leads/sole protagonists in big-budget films. --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ <cite>Donomark posted [p:922694048] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>We're in an era where strong female heroes aren't as uncommon as the marketing behind CM implied.</quote> Which earth have you been living on?</quote> It depends on the context. They're not uncommon as characters that exist in genre fiction. They are uncommon as leads/sole protagonists in big-budget films.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 06/02/19 1:48:24 PM #16:	Oh also the CG in the film looked awful. The only good CG was the de-aging of Nick Fury and every time CM removed her CG helmet, her hair rolled down. Those were impressive to me. Coulson's de-aging was terrible and the action flights with CM felt like a video game cinematic. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:922694105] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>Oh also the CG in the film looked awful. The only good CG was the de-aging of Nick Fury and every time CM removed her CG helmet, her hair rolled down. Those were impressive to me. Coulson's de-aging was terrible and the action flights with CM felt like a video game cinematic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Donomark 06/02/19 1:51:26 PM #17:	CommonStar posted... Oh also the CG in the film looked awful. The only good CG was the de-aging of Nick Fury and every time CM removed her CG helmet, her hair rolled down. Those were impressive to me. Coulson's de-aging was terrible and the action flights with CM felt like a video game cinematic. I thought that Coulson's de-aging was good. His problem was that there was no real reason he had to be in the movie at all. Nothing strengthened our relationship to his character or his relationship to the other characters. His appearance was wasted as just a cameo. --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ <cite>Donomark posted [p:922694208] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonStar posted...</cite> <quote>Oh also the CG in the film looked awful. The only good CG was the de-aging of Nick Fury and every time CM removed her CG helmet, her hair rolled down. Those were impressive to me. Coulson's de-aging was terrible and the action flights with CM felt like a video game cinematic.</quote> I thought that Coulson's de-aging was good. His problem was that there was no real reason he had to be in the movie at all. Nothing strengthened our relationship to his character or his relationship to the other characters. His appearance was wasted as just a cameo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 06/02/19 1:58:42 PM #18:	Donomark posted... CommonStar posted... Oh also the CG in the film looked awful. The only good CG was the de-aging of Nick Fury and every time CM removed her CG helmet, her hair rolled down. Those were impressive to me. Coulson's de-aging was terrible and the action flights with CM felt like a video game cinematic. I thought that Coulson's de-aging was good. His problem was that there was no real reason he had to be in the movie at all. Nothing strengthened our relationship to his character or his relationship to the other characters. His appearance was wasted as just a cameo. Yeah, he was wasted too. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:922694479] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Donomark posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonStar posted...</cite> <quote>Oh also the CG in the film looked awful. The only good CG was the de-aging of Nick Fury and every time CM removed her CG helmet, her hair rolled down. Those were impressive to me. Coulson's de-aging was terrible and the action flights with CM felt like a video game cinematic.</quote> I thought that Coulson's de-aging was good. His problem was that there was no real reason he had to be in the movie at all. Nothing strengthened our relationship to his character or his relationship to the other characters. His appearance was wasted as just a cameo.</quote> Yeah, he was wasted too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 06/02/19 2:14:19 PM #19:	This one youtube channel has made hundreds videos prior to and after Captain Marvel's release about how awful Brie Larson is, and they got more views than his other videos on average. It's clear there is a contingent of nerds who hate her and enjoy talking about how much they hate her. Hell, he is STILL making videos about her now. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMvVQIAfsGwzrfPLxiaIG8g/videos Go to his channel and you can see he's made 5 videos about how awful Brie Larson is in the past week or so: yesterday: Captain Marvel Faced A Real Woman and Lost! Friday: Censorship - Disney Blocked My Captain Marvel Video Worldwide Thursday: Thanos Destroys Captain Marvel in GIF - Nobody Likes Brie Larson Tuesday: SJW Media Ignores Women To Attack Men With Lies - All To Protect Captain Marvel Saturday: Male Feminist YouTuber Defends Brie Larson Against Geeks Plus Gamers Man Friday: Brave and Courageous - Captain Marvel Takes Down The Male Patriarchy Check out how many of his videos are about how much he "hates" (probably secretly hate-loves) Brie Larson. This pic doesn't even include all of his hate videos. BTW if you're gonna quote this post, remove that image lol --- Touch fuzzy get dizzy. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:922695026] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>This one youtube channel has made hundreds videos prior to and after Captain Marvel's release about how awful Brie Larson is, and they got more views than his other videos on average. It's clear there is a contingent of nerds who hate her and enjoy talking about how much they hate her. Hell, he is STILL making videos about her now. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMvVQIAfsGwzrfPLxiaIG8g/videos Go to his channel and you can see he's made 5 videos about how awful Brie Larson is in the past week or so: yesterday: Captain Marvel Faced A Real Woman and Lost! Friday: Censorship - Disney Blocked My Captain Marvel Video Worldwide Thursday: Thanos Destroys Captain Marvel in GIF - Nobody Likes Brie Larson Tuesday: SJW Media Ignores Women To Attack Men With Lies - All To Protect Captain Marvel Saturday: Male Feminist YouTuber Defends Brie Larson Against Geeks Plus Gamers Man Friday: Brave and Courageous - Captain Marvel Takes Down The Male Patriarchy Check out how many of his videos are about how much he "hates" (probably secretly hate-loves) Brie Larson. This pic doesn't even include all of his hate videos. BTW if you're gonna quote this post, remove that image lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/02/19 4:21:34 PM #20:	Well that's just creepy --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922699650] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>Well that's just creepy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
destrian522 06/02/19 4:38:15 PM #21:	Getting teased in Infinity War put a lot more focus on it than was really warranted, considering that it was an origin prequel side story. Im not convinced that their marketing approach accomplished much more than just annoying people. --- CWLSIV \| http://www.twitch.tv/destrianiv <cite>destrian522 posted [p:922700295] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>Getting teased in Infinity War put a lot more focus on it than was really warranted, considering that it was an origin prequel side story. Im not convinced that their marketing approach accomplished much more than just annoying people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/02/19 5:10:25 PM #22:	DarkRoast posted... Of that I have no doubt. I'm just wondering if highlighting them was a strategy to garner support those movies otherwise wouldn't have gotten. I don't recall Disney doing a single thing to highlight them. Hell I was under the impression the stars of the movie didn't even know about it. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922701376] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Of that I have no doubt. I'm just wondering if highlighting them was a strategy to garner support those movies otherwise wouldn't have gotten.</quote> I don't recall Disney doing a single thing to highlight them. Hell I was under the impression the stars of the movie didn't even know about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 06/02/19 5:11:36 PM #23:	Im glad Brie Larson is now a household name. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:922701412] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote>Im glad Brie Larson is now a household name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/02/19 5:12:52 PM #24:	destrian522 posted... Getting teased in Infinity War put a lot more focus on it than was really warranted, considering that it was an origin prequel side story. Im not convinced that their marketing approach accomplished much more than just annoying people. they basically lied. she was implied to be very important in Endgame and OMG YOU HAVE TO SEE HER MOVIE!!!! but it turned out to not be true. she is barely in Endgame and I make the claim that she wasn't needed. she only did a couple of things in the movie, and they could have written other solutions if she didn't exist. she wasn't really important at all. Marvel just wanted to hype up her movie and increase sales. well it worked cause even i fell for it and watched her movie <cite>Zikten posted [p:922701456] in I can't he... [t:77757075]...</cite> <quote><cite>destrian522 posted...</cite> <quote>Getting teased in Infinity War put a lot more focus on it than was really warranted, considering that it was an origin prequel side story. Im not convinced that their marketing approach accomplished much more than just annoying people.</quote> they basically lied. she was implied to be very important in Endgame and OMG YOU HAVE TO SEE HER MOVIE!!!! but it turned out to not be true. she is barely in Endgame and I make the claim that she wasn't needed. she only did a couple of things in the movie, and they could have written other solutions if she didn't exist. she wasn't really important at all. Marvel just wanted to hype up her movie and increase sales. well it worked cause even i fell for it and watched her movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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