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Antifar
05/28/19 8:03:22 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/27/mike-pence-predicts-war-everywhere-next-few-years/

Vice President Pence spoke to the West Point graduating class on Saturday, and amid the standard congratulations and tributes to the graduates, he said something truly shocking:

It is a virtual certainty that you will fight on a battlefield for America at some point in your life. You will lead soldiers in combat. It will happen.

Some of you will join the fight against radical Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq. Some of you will join the fight on the Korean Peninsula and in the Indo-Pacific, where North Korea continues to threaten the peace, and an increasingly militarized China challenges our presence in the region. Some of you will join the fight in Europe, where an aggressive Russia seeks to redraw international boundaries by force. And some of you may even be called upon to serve in this hemisphere.

And when that day comes, I know you will move to the sound of the guns and do your duty, and you will fight, and you will win. The American people expect nothing less.

So, wherever youre called, I urge you to take what you learned here and put it into practice. Put your armor on, so that when not if that day comes, youll be able to stand your ground.


Lets pause and consider what this means. Pence is saying not just that more wars are inevitable, but that they are inevitable soon. Lets not forget that while many of those who attend the service academies go on to careers in the military, many do not. They have an eight-year commitment after graduation five years on active duty and three in the reserves.

So the vice president announced to these young men and women that within the next eight years, they will all see combat. In fact, Pence sees America waging war everywhere very soon, whether its the fight on the Korean Peninsula and in the Indo-Pacific, the fight in Europe or somewhere in Latin America. As for Iraq and Afghanistan, Pence is saying that there will be no end to not just American presence but American combat in those places.

And, who knows, if were lucky well get a new invasion before long! Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), one of President Trumps closest advisers on Capitol Hill, said on Fox News Sunday this weekend that I would give Cuba an ultimatum to get out of Venezuela. If they dont, I would let the Venezuelan military know, you got to choose between democracy and Maduro, and if you choose Maduro and Cuba, we are coming after you. This is in our backyard.

Or, if we get bored with Venezuela, maybe well finally get that war with Iran that so many Republicans, none more so than the presidents national security adviser, have wanted for so long.

Whats most troubling about Pences statement is that it treats American invasions of other countries as simply a given, something out of our hands to decide whether or not we want to do. Its a dangerous world out there, so we have no choice in the matter. Its just the way it is and always will be. Not only that, these invasions will happen so frequently that at least a few of them are an absolute certainty within any eight-year period. And not any piddling little Grenada-style invasions, but invasions requiring such a large mobilization that every Army officer who graduated from West Point in recent years will see combat.


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REMercsChamp
05/28/19 8:05:57 AM
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That's a military graduation, what do you expect
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treewojima
05/28/19 8:06:06 AM
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I bet John Bolton was watching and had a massive erection the entire time
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Antifar
05/28/19 8:06:57 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
That's a military graduation, what do you expect

Not for him to promise every one of them will see combat
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CyricZ
05/28/19 8:07:21 AM
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Mike Pence Speaks To Future Subjects of Memorial Day
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REMercsChamp
05/28/19 8:07:52 AM
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Antifar posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
That's a military graduation, what do you expect

Not for him to promise every one of them will see combat

Well that's sort of what you're signing up for when you join the military
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Southernfatman
05/28/19 8:08:34 AM
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Defense contractors and arms makers got to make that money!
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Fam_Fam
05/28/19 8:08:48 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Antifar posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
That's a military graduation, what do you expect

Not for him to promise every one of them will see combat

Well that's sort of what you're signing up for when you join the military


doesnt mean you want there to be a war, or many wars. you sign up to be there if needed. doesn't mean you want to be needed everywhere in the world
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REMercsChamp
05/28/19 8:10:01 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Antifar posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
That's a military graduation, what do you expect

Not for him to promise every one of them will see combat

Well that's sort of what you're signing up for when you join the military


doesnt mean you want there to be a war, or many wars. you sign up to be there if needed. doesn't mean you want to be needed everywhere in the world

No but it's certainly a possibility

I find it bizarre that someone would complain about military school graduates being told they might go to war
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CyricZ
05/28/19 8:11:59 AM
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Did you know that the US has been in a state of ever-expanding conflict for the last seventeen years? Veterans are calling it "the Forever War".

Mike Pence is apparently all about that life.
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buddhamonster
05/28/19 8:14:35 AM
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Antifar posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
That's a military graduation, what do you expect

Not for him to promise every one of them will see combat

And not just that they will all see combat, but in four unique theaters, against at least two of the worlds strongest nations, and one of which is occurring on your home turf!

Pence isnt just saying their will be war, hes outright predicting WW3....
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Kaiganeer
05/28/19 8:17:23 AM
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it's one of america's largest exports, after all
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Conception616
05/28/19 8:38:31 AM
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treewojima posted...
I bet John Bolton was watching and had a massive erection the entire time


I doubt Bolton has the size to qualify as massive.
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HydraSlayer82
05/28/19 8:59:16 AM
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Mike Pence trying to do his best Cheney impression. Too bad Cheney actually did drag us into an unjust war. Up your game Mike.
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eston
05/28/19 9:05:12 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
That's a military graduation, what do you expect

I've never been to one, have you?
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Jiek_Fafn
05/28/19 9:10:03 AM
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Aren't we involved in several wars/conflicts right now?
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Goats
05/28/19 9:15:48 AM
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But Hillary was the warmonger
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BLAKUboy
05/28/19 9:19:48 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Aren't we involved in several wars/conflicts right now?

And Trump is actively trying to start up at least three more.
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EnragedSlith
05/28/19 9:22:07 AM
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 9:24:05 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
That's a military graduation, what do you expect

I'm friends with several service academy grads that never saw combat and are now back in civilian life.
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The Trent
05/28/19 9:24:12 AM
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sensationalist topic title tbqh
more like "dumb man says stupid shit in attempt to inspire military people"
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 9:24:26 AM
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Goats posted...
But Hillary was the warmonger

Donnie the Dove. Not his fault the entire world is forcing him to become Donnie the Hawk
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BLAKUboy
05/28/19 9:25:13 AM
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EnragedSlith posted...
God, he is... not bright.

Its honestly why Id be okay with removing Trump even if Pence is somehow clean in all of it. Hes not the genius mastermind people try to fearmonger about, plus coming off of Trump will make him the biggest lame duck in memory.
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 9:27:30 AM
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The Trent posted...
sensationalist topic title tbqh
more like "dumb man says stupid shit in attempt to inspire military people"

It's odd that he called it a certainty and made up several future wars though, instead of just saying "You may one day go to war and pay the ultimate price" and some inspirational platitudes.
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NinjaWarrior455
05/28/19 9:33:05 AM
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The Trent posted...
sensationalist topic title tbqh
more like "dumb man says stupid shit in attempt to inspire military people"

Making him out to be a dumb man saying stupid shit takes away the fact that this is our nation's vice president.
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 9:34:24 AM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The Trent posted...
sensationalist topic title tbqh
more like "dumb man says stupid shit in attempt to inspire military people"

Making him out to be a dumb man saying stupid shit takes away the fact that this is our nation's vice president.

"Just ignore how stupid the White House is" has been a strangely frequent argument this presidency.
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Shuto-uke
05/28/19 9:40:41 AM
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Goats posted...
But Hillary was the warmonger


I remember this, drowzee.

They would say "donald the dove!!! hillary the hawk!!'
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Thatuser
05/28/19 9:42:48 AM
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Any student of history knows war is inevitable, especially when you are currently the superpower. Telling graduates of our premier officer instruction school, where qualified people go to have a career in the military, not just serve, that they will command troops in conflict somewhere is like telling an engineer he'll have to use math.
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Malfunction
05/28/19 9:43:28 AM
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Lmfao that's wild
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 9:46:49 AM
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Thatuser posted...
Any student of history knows war is inevitable, especially when you are currently the superpower. Telling graduates of our premier officer instruction school, where qualified people go to have a career in the military, not just serve, that they will command troops in conflict somewhere is like telling an engineer he'll have to use math.

Hello Mike Pence
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ZannoL
05/28/19 9:48:24 AM
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Pence = brain dead moron
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Thatuser
05/28/19 9:48:26 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Any student of history knows war is inevitable, especially when you are currently the superpower. Telling graduates of our premier officer instruction school, where qualified people go to have a career in the military, not just serve, that they will command troops in conflict somewhere is like telling an engineer he'll have to use math.

Hello Mike Pence

You're entitled to believe whichever fantasy you'd like, that's part of being human. What I wrote is clearly true to those with eyes that see.
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 9:50:45 AM
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Thatuser posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Any student of history knows war is inevitable, especially when you are currently the superpower. Telling graduates of our premier officer instruction school, where qualified people go to have a career in the military, not just serve, that they will command troops in conflict somewhere is like telling an engineer he'll have to use math.

Hello Mike Pence

You're entitled to believe whichever fantasy you'd like, that's part of being human. What I wrote is clearly true to those with eyes that see.

How do you explain academy graduates that never went to war? We've never had eternal wartime.
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Thatuser
05/28/19 9:53:23 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Any student of history knows war is inevitable, especially when you are currently the superpower. Telling graduates of our premier officer instruction school, where qualified people go to have a career in the military, not just serve, that they will command troops in conflict somewhere is like telling an engineer he'll have to use math.

Hello Mike Pence

You're entitled to believe whichever fantasy you'd like, that's part of being human. What I wrote is clearly true to those with eyes that see.

How do you explain academy graduates that never went to war? We've never had eternal wartime.

We are at war. Constantly have been. Just because they may serve on a post that is not under fire, they are part of a military organization at war. Since WW2 we have been at war, so our entire lives. The nature of warfare has changed, but its essence has not.
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Skye Reynolds
05/28/19 9:54:31 AM
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war were everywhere
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 9:55:34 AM
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Thatuser posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Any student of history knows war is inevitable, especially when you are currently the superpower. Telling graduates of our premier officer instruction school, where qualified people go to have a career in the military, not just serve, that they will command troops in conflict somewhere is like telling an engineer he'll have to use math.

Hello Mike Pence

You're entitled to believe whichever fantasy you'd like, that's part of being human. What I wrote is clearly true to those with eyes that see.

How do you explain academy graduates that never went to war? We've never had eternal wartime.

We are at war. Constantly have been. Just because they may serve on a post that is not under fire, they are part of a military organization at war. Since WW2 we have been at war, so our entire lives. The nature of warfare has changed, but its essence has not.

ah so Mike Prince's mistake was saying one day they'll be at war as opposed to saying they'll always be at war
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DemonsHoles
05/28/19 9:57:36 AM
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War....has changer
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Thatuser
05/28/19 9:58:26 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
ah so Mike Prince's mistake was saying one day they'll be at war as opposed to saying they'll always be at war

Pretty sure most soldiers currently serving, or a living veteran, would agree with my statement regardless of what Pence said. Including those in attendance at the graduation.
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spudger
05/28/19 10:00:43 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
That's a military graduation, what do you expect

ive been to a few, there was no war-mongering.
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synth_real
05/28/19 10:03:26 AM
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The US has been doing this since the beginning of the Cold War, just more covertly in some places than others. That is the real reason why the Middle East hates the west
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 10:03:35 AM
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Thatuser posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
ah so Mike Prince's mistake was saying one day they'll be at war as opposed to saying they'll always be at war

Pretty sure most soldiers currently serving, or a living veteran, would agree with my statement regardless of what Pence said. Including those in attendance at the graduation.

They would say they've moved toward gunfire in a conflict predicted by the White House?

"The military is technically always fighting" is a lame excuse for Pence being a warhawk. Each individual will not be thrown into combat.
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Thatuser
05/28/19 10:05:17 AM
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synth_real posted...
The US has been doing this since the beginning of the Cold War, just more covertly in some places than others. That is the real reason why the Middle East hates the west

Along with serious ideological/theological differences and competition for resources. They do the same shit with their recruits.
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Thatuser
05/28/19 10:08:39 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
ah so Mike Prince's mistake was saying one day they'll be at war as opposed to saying they'll always be at war

Pretty sure most soldiers currently serving, or a living veteran, would agree with my statement regardless of what Pence said. Including those in attendance at the graduation.

They would say they've moved toward gunfire in a conflict predicted by the White House?

"The military is technically always fighting" is a lame excuse for Pence being a warhawk. Each individual will not be thrown into combat.

I'm not making excuses, just explaining reality. And perhaps I'm thinking on a grander scale; majors and colonels don't often get in the shit. They lead from behind, or outposts hundreds of miles away. This isn't the 19th century.
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Doom_Art
05/28/19 10:09:44 AM
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bUt HiLlArY iS a WaRmOnGeR gUyS
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CanuckCowboy
05/28/19 10:47:23 AM
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Thatuser posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Any student of history knows war is inevitable, especially when you are currently the superpower. Telling graduates of our premier officer instruction school, where qualified people go to have a career in the military, not just serve, that they will command troops in conflict somewhere is like telling an engineer he'll have to use math.

Hello Mike Pence

You're entitled to believe whichever fantasy you'd like, that's part of being human. What I wrote is clearly true to those with eyes that see.


This guy. Wow.
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creativerealms
05/28/19 10:51:19 AM
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It wouldn't surprise me if he was one of those Christians who believes the world is about to end.
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EvalAngell
05/28/19 10:59:01 AM
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sounded like a scene straight out of Starship Troopers.
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05/28/19 11:02:30 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Mike Pence Speaks To Future Subjects of Memorial Day

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Thatuser
05/28/19 11:18:15 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Thatuser posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Any student of history knows war is inevitable, especially when you are currently the superpower. Telling graduates of our premier officer instruction school, where qualified people go to have a career in the military, not just serve, that they will command troops in conflict somewhere is like telling an engineer he'll have to use math.

Hello Mike Pence

You're entitled to believe whichever fantasy you'd like, that's part of being human. What I wrote is clearly true to those with eyes that see.


This guy. Wow.

What a vacuous retort.
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