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Antifar 05/24/19 3:55:33 PM #1:	https://bit.ly/30Jl95Z On Friday, the Trump administration unveiled its long-awaited assault on transgender patients, unveiling a draft rule that permits health care providers and insurance companies to discriminate against individuals on the basis of their gender identity. It marks the third time this week that the administration has rolled back federal protections for trans people, after allowing health care workers to refuse treatment for trans patients and homeless shelters to turn away trans people. The proposed rule, written by the Department of Health and Human Services, also permits providers to discriminate against women who seek care after obtaining an abortion. Trumps HHS has been crafting this policy for years in an effort to exclude trans people from the Affordable Care Acts Section 1557. That provision bars most health care providers and insurance companies from discriminating against patients on the basis of sex (among other things). It incorporates the definition of sex discrimination used in various civil rights laws, most notably Title IX, which applies to educational institutions. The Obama administration enacted a rule interpreting Section 1557 to protect transgender people, explaining that discrimination against a patient who transitions from one sex to another is, by definition, sex discrimination. But on the last day of 2016, U.S. District Judge Reed OConnor issued a nationwide injunction blocking the rule, ruling that sex encompasses only biological differences between males and females. (OConnor has since gained notoriety for his decision holding that the entire Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional.) The Trump administration, which purports to oppose nationwide injunctions, told OConnor that it agreed with his decision and would create a new rule that complied with the ACA, ending any possible appeal. Now it has, and the result is cruel, misleading, and extraordinarily offensive. HHS basic theorythat sex discrimination does not include discrimination against people who transitions sexesis baffling. When a doctor refuses to, for instance, prescribe hormones to a transgender woman, he is discriminating on the basis of sex: He believes his patient is a man and should not receive treatment for women. It is difficult to think of a clearer example of sex discrimination in health care, other than an outright refusal to treat patients of a certain gender. Two aspects of the rule stand out as especially deceptive and disturbing. (To understand why, remember that the ACAs definition of sex discrimination is drawn from Title IX.) First, in the main text, HHS cites two district court decisions ruling that Title IXs ban on sex discrimination does not protect transgender people. It also cites two district court decisions reaching the opposite conclusion to illustrate that the courts have been inconsistent on the issue. In reality, however, the clear majority of district courts to consider the issue have found that Title IX does protect trans people. HHS wrongly implies that the district courts are evenly split. The agency then pulls another sleight of hand: It relegates to a footnote decisions by four federal appeals courts holding that Title IX can or must be read to encompass anti-trans discrimination. Reading the rule, you would never guess that the weight of judicial authority contradicts HHS legal theory. It states only that these appeals courts have addressed the issuenot that, upon confronting the issue, they unanimously agreed that anti-trans discrimination is sex discrimination. A second duplicitous passage in the new rule is even more alarming. In an ominous tangent regarding Title IX, HHS suggests that merely compelling non-trans students to be around trans students might itself constitute illegal sex discrimination. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:922322892] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>https://bit.ly/30Jl95Z <quote>On Friday, the Trump administration unveiled its long-awaited assault on transgender patients, unveiling a draft rule that permits health care providers and insurance companies to discriminate against individuals on the basis of their gender identity. It marks the third time this week that the administration has rolled back federal protections for trans people, after allowing health care workers to refuse treatment for trans patients and homeless shelters to turn away trans people. The proposed rule, written by the Department of Health and Human Services, also permits providers to discriminate against women who seek care after obtaining an abortion. Trumps HHS has been crafting this policy for years in an effort to exclude trans people from the Affordable Care Acts Section 1557. That provision bars most health care providers and insurance companies from discriminating against patients on the basis of sex (among other things). It incorporates the definition of sex discrimination used in various civil rights laws, most notably Title IX, which applies to educational institutions. The Obama administration enacted a rule interpreting Section 1557 to protect transgender people, explaining that discrimination against a patient who transitions from one sex to another is, by definition, sex discrimination. But on the last day of 2016, U.S. District Judge Reed OConnor issued a nationwide injunction blocking the rule, ruling that sex encompasses only biological differences between males and females. (OConnor has since gained notoriety for his decision holding that the entire Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional.) The Trump administration, which purports to oppose nationwide injunctions, told OConnor that it agreed with his decision and would create a new rule that complied with the ACA, ending any possible appeal. Now it has, and the result is cruel, misleading, and extraordinarily offensive. HHS basic theorythat sex discrimination does not include discrimination against people who transitions sexesis baffling. When a doctor refuses to, for instance, prescribe hormones to a transgender woman, he is discriminating on the basis of sex: He believes his patient is a man and should not receive treatment for women. It is difficult to think of a clearer example of sex discrimination in health care, other than an outright refusal to treat patients of a certain gender. Two aspects of the rule stand out as especially deceptive and disturbing. (To understand why, remember that the ACAs definition of sex discrimination is drawn from Title IX.) First, in the main text, HHS cites two district court decisions ruling that Title IXs ban on sex discrimination does not protect transgender people. It also cites two district court decisions reaching the opposite conclusion to illustrate that the courts have been inconsistent on the issue. In reality, however, the clear majority of district courts to consider the issue have found that Title IX does protect trans people. HHS wrongly implies that the district courts are evenly split. The agency then pulls another sleight of hand: It relegates to a footnote decisions by four federal appeals courts holding that Title IX can or must be read to encompass anti-trans discrimination. Reading the rule, you would never guess that the weight of judicial authority contradicts HHS legal theory. It states only that these appeals courts have addressed the issuenot that, upon confronting the issue, they unanimously agreed that anti-trans discrimination is sex discrimination. A second duplicitous passage in the new rule is even more alarming. In an ominous tangent regarding Title IX, HHS suggests that merely compelling non-trans students to be around trans students might itself constitute illegal sex discrimination. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 05/24/19 3:57:17 PM #2:	Remember how he supported them before the election? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:922322946] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Remember how he supported them before the election?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 05/24/19 3:58:46 PM #3:	Is it time for a revolt yet? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:922323005] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Is it time for a revolt yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 05/24/19 3:58:49 PM #4:	I'm not even surprised anymore --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:922323008] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>I'm not even surprised anymore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/24/19 4:02:54 PM #5:	Antifar posted... A second duplicitous passage in the new rule is even more alarming. In an ominous tangent regarding Title IX, HHS suggests that merely compelling non-trans students to be around trans students might itself constitute illegal sex discrimination. Stating the quiet part out loud. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:922323168] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>A second duplicitous passage in the new rule is even more alarming. In an ominous tangent regarding Title IX, HHS suggests that merely compelling non-trans students to be around trans students might itself constitute illegal sex discrimination.</quote> Stating the quiet part out loud.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bluebomber182 05/24/19 4:05:05 PM #6:	but he waved a rainbow flag once! --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 <cite>Bluebomber182 posted [p:922323245] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>but he waved a rainbow flag once!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/24/19 4:06:09 PM #7:	Literal cartoon villain. Jfc --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:922323285] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Literal cartoon villain. Jfc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/24/19 4:06:10 PM #8:	Blair White: "No you see this is reasonable because wharglebargle" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922323287] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Blair White: "No you see this is reasonable because wharglebargle"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/24/19 4:11:11 PM #9:	If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:922323451] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/24/19 4:16:22 PM #11:	DifferentialEquation posted... If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition. What even is this? Trans people aren't seeking treatment from doctors who aren't able to treat them. The doctors will already tell you what kinds of services they do or don't offer. This analogy is trash, and you knew it before you fixed yourself to come in here and shitlord. Why are you like this? --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:922323624] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition.</quote> What even is this? Trans people aren't seeking treatment from doctors who aren't able to treat them. The doctors will already tell you what kinds of services they do or don't offer. This analogy is trash, and you knew it before you fixed yourself to come in here and shitlord. Why are you like this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slaya4 05/24/19 4:18:14 PM #12:	This is pretty fucked up. --- Am I going too hard? <cite>Slaya4 posted [p:922323690] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>This is pretty fucked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dotsdfe 05/24/19 4:18:42 PM #13:	This was always the shitty endgame for these "religious liberty" arguments. At the risk of sounding dramatic, we're approaching the point of legalized segregation and "No LGBT allowed" facilities. Plans like this are not far off of that, at all. --- Winner of the Third Hacked User Contest. World's #1 Phoenix Wright fan. <cite>dotsdfe posted [p:922323710] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>This was always the shitty endgame for these "religious liberty" arguments. At the risk of sounding dramatic, we're approaching the point of legalized segregation and "No LGBT allowed" facilities. Plans like this are not far off of that, at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 05/24/19 4:20:24 PM #14:	This is another reason why trump needs to be locked up --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:922323763] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>This is another reason why trump needs to be locked up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/24/19 4:21:46 PM #15:	Foppe posted... Remember how he supported them before the election? I still cant believe people fell for that --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:922323801] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>Remember how he supported them before the election?</quote> I still cant believe people fell for that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 05/24/19 4:23:00 PM #16:	Slaya4 posted... This is pretty fucked up. Extremely fucked up. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:922323836] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Slaya4 posted...</cite> <quote>This is pretty fucked up.</quote> Extremely fucked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 05/24/19 4:23:25 PM #17:	Brown v Board is coming up next --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:922323859] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Brown v Board is coming up next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 05/24/19 4:26:56 PM #18:	hollow_shrine posted... DifferentialEquation posted... If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition. What even is this? Trans people aren't seeking treatment from doctors who aren't able to treat them. The doctors will already tell you what kinds of services they do or don't offer. This analogy is trash, and you knew it before you fixed yourself to come in here and shitlord. Why are you like this? It's just his gimmick, don't ever take it seriously --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:922323983] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition.</quote> What even is this? Trans people aren't seeking treatment from doctors who aren't able to treat them. The doctors will already tell you what kinds of services they do or don't offer. This analogy is trash, and you knew it before you fixed yourself to come in here and shitlord. Why are you like this?</quote> It's just his gimmick, don't ever take it seriously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 05/24/19 4:46:33 PM #19:	"This is fine." - conservatives --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:922324655] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>"This is fine." - conservatives</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chad-Henne 05/24/19 4:48:04 PM #20:	Most lbgt-friendly president ever, etc. --- http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1759573/hennelol2.gif http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1303533/hennefight_medium.gif <cite>Chad-Henne posted [p:922324718] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Most lbgt-friendly president ever, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CharlesBronson 05/24/19 4:49:14 PM #21:	GATTJT posted... Is it time for a revolt yet? No <cite>CharlesBronson posted [p:922324751] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote>Is it time for a revolt yet?</quote> No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/24/19 4:53:14 PM #22:	hollow_shrine posted... DifferentialEquation posted... If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition. What even is this? Trans people aren't seeking treatment from doctors who aren't able to treat them. The doctors will already tell you what kinds of services they do or don't offer. This analogy is trash, and you knew it before you fixed yourself to come in here and shitlord. Why are you like this? It's not a trash analogy and there are also other things to consider. In some cases, medicine doses are determined by modified body weights where the formula is based on the patient's sex. That's an unfair situation to put a doctor in because now they run the risk of seriously upsetting the patient which could cost them their job. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:922324887] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition.</quote> What even is this? Trans people aren't seeking treatment from doctors who aren't able to treat them. The doctors will already tell you what kinds of services they do or don't offer. This analogy is trash, and you knew it before you fixed yourself to come in here and shitlord. Why are you like this?</quote> It's not a trash analogy and there are also other things to consider. In some cases, medicine doses are determined by modified body weights where the formula is based on the patient's sex. That's an unfair situation to put a doctor in because now they run the risk of seriously upsetting the patient which could cost them their job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 05/24/19 4:57:29 PM #23:	DifferentialEquation posted... It's not a trash analogy and there are also other things to consider. In some cases, medicine doses are determined by modified body weights where the formula is based on the patient's sex. That's an unfair situation to put a doctor in because now they run the risk of seriously upsetting the patient which could cost them their job. Your analogy is shit for the exact reasons I described in that post. And here I see you're doubling down on it. Kindly, fuck off with this. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:922325033] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It's not a trash analogy and there are also other things to consider. In some cases, medicine doses are determined by modified body weights where the formula is based on the patient's sex. That's an unfair situation to put a doctor in because now they run the risk of seriously upsetting the patient which could cost them their job.</quote> Your analogy is shit for the exact reasons I described in that post. And here I see you're doubling down on it. Kindly, fuck off with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/24/19 4:58:03 PM #24:	DE, you really dont have to do this in every topic --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922325057] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>DE, you really dont have to do this in every topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/24/19 4:58:39 PM #25:	hollow_shrine posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It's not a trash analogy and there are also other things to consider. In some cases, medicine doses are determined by modified body weights where the formula is based on the patient's sex. That's an unfair situation to put a doctor in because now they run the risk of seriously upsetting the patient which could cost them their job. Your analogy is shit for the exact reasons I described in that post. And here I see you're doubling down on it. Kindly, fuck off with this. Dude, DE is a self-admitted gimmick poster. Stop taking him seriously. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:922325078] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It's not a trash analogy and there are also other things to consider. In some cases, medicine doses are determined by modified body weights where the formula is based on the patient's sex. That's an unfair situation to put a doctor in because now they run the risk of seriously upsetting the patient which could cost them their job.</quote> Your analogy is shit for the exact reasons I described in that post. And here I see you're doubling down on it. Kindly, fuck off with this.</quote> Dude, DE is a self-admitted gimmick poster. Stop taking him seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/24/19 5:00:22 PM #26:	hollow_shrine posted... DifferentialEquation posted... It's not a trash analogy and there are also other things to consider. In some cases, medicine doses are determined by modified body weights where the formula is based on the patient's sex. That's an unfair situation to put a doctor in because now they run the risk of seriously upsetting the patient which could cost them their job. Your analogy is shit for the exact reasons I described in that post. And here I see you're doubling down on it. Kindly, fuck off with this. https://www.calculator.net/ideal-weight-calculator.html This is used in medicine. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:922325137] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>It's not a trash analogy and there are also other things to consider. In some cases, medicine doses are determined by modified body weights where the formula is based on the patient's sex. That's an unfair situation to put a doctor in because now they run the risk of seriously upsetting the patient which could cost them their job.</quote> Your analogy is shit for the exact reasons I described in that post. And here I see you're doubling down on it. Kindly, fuck off with this.</quote> https://www.calculator.net/ideal-weight-calculator.html This is used in medicine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CloudChaser462 05/24/19 5:00:31 PM #27:	Question is, are there any doctors and other health specialists that would deny treatment to transfolk? <cite>CloudChaser462 posted [p:922325144] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Question is, are there any doctors and other health specialists that would deny treatment to transfolk?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 05/24/19 5:01:38 PM #28:	hollow_shrine posted... DifferentialEquation posted... If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition. What even is this? Trans people aren't seeking treatment from doctors who aren't able to treat them. The doctors will already tell you what kinds of services they do or don't offer. This analogy is trash, and you knew it before you fixed yourself to come in here and shitlord. Why are you like this? Hes a troll Just ignore --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:922325177] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition.</quote> What even is this? Trans people aren't seeking treatment from doctors who aren't able to treat them. The doctors will already tell you what kinds of services they do or don't offer. This analogy is trash, and you knew it before you fixed yourself to come in here and shitlord. Why are you like this?</quote> Hes a troll Just ignore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malfunction 05/24/19 5:02:03 PM #29:	Funny how the same people who decry trans people as being mentally ill are simultaneously happy to go along with them being denied medical treatment <cite>Malfunction posted [p:922325199] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Funny how the same people who decry trans people as being mentally ill are simultaneously happy to go along with them being denied medical treatment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 05/24/19 5:05:52 PM #30:	CloudChaser462 posted... Question is, are there any doctors and other health specialists that would deny treatment to transfolk? I imagine there's quite a few that would in the south. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:922325366] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>CloudChaser462 posted...</cite> <quote>Question is, are there any doctors and other health specialists that would deny treatment to transfolk?</quote> I imagine there's quite a few that would in the south.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 05/24/19 5:26:49 PM #31:	DifferentialEquation posted... If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition. this is a stretch, even for you --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:922326117] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>If transgenderism isn't a doctor's area of expertise, then they shouldn't have to risk making a mistake and getting hit with a malpractice suit. It's the same reason why you shouldn't force an eye doctor to treat someone's heart condition.</quote> this is a stretch, even for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/24/19 5:28:56 PM #32:	I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922326198] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 05/24/19 5:31:54 PM #33:	karlpilkington4 posted... and here's comes the rest of the brigade --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:922326304] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> and here's comes the rest of the brigade</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 05/24/19 5:33:22 PM #34:	Tyranthraxus posted... Blair White: "No you see this is reasonable because wharglebargle" I was wondering if she'll mindlessly agree with this. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:922326350] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Blair White: "No you see this is reasonable because wharglebargle"</quote> I was wondering if she'll mindlessly agree with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/24/19 5:37:06 PM #35:	karlpilkington4 posted... I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this. I'm glad you're not a doctor. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:922326498] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this.</quote> I'm glad you're not a doctor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QuantumTheory 05/24/19 5:38:36 PM #36:	hollow_shrine posted... Antifar posted... A second duplicitous passage in the new rule is even more alarming. In an ominous tangent regarding Title IX, HHS suggests that merely compelling non-trans students to be around trans students might itself constitute illegal sex discrimination. Stating the quiet part out loud. If compelling = forcing then whats the problem? --- Nothing is real. <cite>QuantumTheory posted [p:922326551] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>A second duplicitous passage in the new rule is even more alarming. In an ominous tangent regarding Title IX, HHS suggests that merely compelling non-trans students to be around trans students might itself constitute illegal sex discrimination.</quote> Stating the quiet part out loud.</quote> If compelling = forcing then whats the problem?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/24/19 5:40:02 PM #37:	Smashingpmkns posted... karlpilkington4 posted... I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this. I'm glad you're not a doctor. The U.S is either a free country or its not. You act like the majority of doctors would just stop working. Thats literally illogical. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922326607] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this.</quote> I'm glad you're not a doctor.</quote> The U.S is either a free country or its not. You act like the majority of doctors would just stop working. Thats literally illogical.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 05/24/19 5:41:18 PM #38:	Blue_Dream87 posted... Brown v Board is coming up next Remember when people said this about Roe vs Wade and redhats acted like those people were crazy? --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:922326649] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote>Brown v Board is coming up next</quote> Remember when people said this about Roe vs Wade and redhats acted like those people were crazy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 05/24/19 5:45:16 PM #39:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... Blue_Dream87 posted... Brown v Board is coming up next Remember when people said this about Roe vs Wade and redhats acted like those people were crazy? Lol yes Seriously 2020 is gonna be a total shitshow. You can only fuck people over for so long before they do something about it. --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:922326789] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote>Brown v Board is coming up next</quote> Remember when people said this about Roe vs Wade and redhats acted like those people were crazy?</quote> Lol yes Seriously 2020 is gonna be a total shitshow. You can only fuck people over for so long before they do something about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/24/19 5:47:05 PM #40:	karlpilkington4 posted... The U.S is either a free country or its not. You act like the majority of doctors would just stop working. Thats literally illogical. Smashingpmkns posted... I'm glad you're not a doctor. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:922326854] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>The U.S is either a free country or its not. You act like the majority of doctors would just stop working. Thats literally illogical.</quote> <cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>I'm glad you're not a doctor.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 05/24/19 5:49:04 PM #41:	Blue_Dream87 posted... Trigg3rH4ppy posted... Blue_Dream87 posted... Brown v Board is coming up next Remember when people said this about Roe vs Wade and redhats acted like those people were crazy? Lol yes Seriously 2020 is gonna be a total shitshow. You can only fuck people over for so long before they do something about it. --- It'll take more than oppression of the marginalized to make America change, unfortunately Hell, even a good chunk of centrists think transgendered folk are icky or otherwise taking things "too far". We have a long way to go <cite>treewojima posted [p:922326925] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote> Brown v Board is coming up next </quote> Remember when people said this about Roe vs Wade and redhats acted like those people were crazy? </quote> Lol yes Seriously 2020 is gonna be a total shitshow. You can only fuck people over for so long before they do something about it. ---</quote> It'll take more than oppression of the marginalized to make America change, unfortunately Hell, even a good chunk of centrists think transgendered folk are icky or otherwise taking things "too far". We have a long way to go</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/24/19 5:50:19 PM #42:	karlpilkington4 posted... I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this. This is such a slippery slope. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922326986] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this.</quote> This is such a slippery slope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/24/19 7:57:37 PM #43:	Chad-Henne posted... Most lbgt-friendly president ever, etc. Did...did he lie? --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922331666] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chad-Henne posted...</cite> <quote>Most lbgt-friendly president ever, etc.</quote> Did...did he lie?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 05/24/19 8:04:08 PM #44:	karlpilkington4 posted... I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this. Um, yeah. There are tons of non-government jobs where you cant refuse to serve someone based on something like that. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:922331869] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this.</quote> Um, yeah. There are tons of non-government jobs where you cant refuse to serve someone based on something like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 05/24/19 8:06:36 PM #45:	uwnim posted... karlpilkington4 posted... I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this. Um, yeah. There are tons of non-government jobs where you cant refuse to serve someone based on something like that. remember who you're responding to <cite>treewojima posted [p:922331950] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this.</quote> Um, yeah. There are tons of non-government jobs where you cant refuse to serve someone based on something like that.</quote> remember who you're responding to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 05/24/19 8:09:13 PM #46:	people really still out here responding seriously to DE and karl --- https://i.imgtc.com/hB9W4JK.gif You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:922332056] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>people really still out here responding seriously to DE and karl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 05/24/19 10:02:24 PM #47:	Is Karl just pretending like DE? --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:922335967] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Is Karl just pretending like DE?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/24/19 10:04:07 PM #48:	Liberal tears. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:922336011] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>Liberal tears.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/24/19 10:34:42 PM #49:	uwnim posted... karlpilkington4 posted... I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this. Um, yeah. There are tons of non-government jobs where you cant refuse to serve someone based on something like that. Im talking about in general. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922337037] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think doctors should be forced to treat anyone. No other non govt job are people forced to do things like this.</quote> Um, yeah. There are tons of non-government jobs where you cant refuse to serve someone based on something like that.</quote> Im talking about in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/24/19 10:50:52 PM #50:	When a doctor refuses to, for instance, prescribe hormones to a transgender woman, he is discriminating on the basis of sex: When a doctor refuses to, for instance, prescribe hormones to a transgender woman, why in the hell is that transgender woman still going to that doctor? This thing is being overblown anyway. The point is to not compel a doctor to perform procedures he or she doesn't want to do for some reason. We're in that fuzzy area between "i'm not comfortable with this" and "do your fucking job". <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:922337522] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote><quote>When a doctor refuses to, for instance, prescribe hormones to a transgender woman, he is discriminating on the basis of sex:</quote> When a doctor refuses to, for instance, prescribe hormones to a transgender woman, why in the hell is that transgender woman still going to that doctor? This thing is being overblown anyway. The point is to not compel a doctor to perform procedures he or she doesn't want to do for some reason. We're in that fuzzy area between "i'm not comfortable with this" and "do your fucking job".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/24/19 10:53:12 PM #51:	The most LGBT-friendly President of all time. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:922337605] in Trump admi... [t:77737684]...</cite> <quote>The most LGBT-friendly President of all time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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