Current Events > If God is real let's assume 100% do you hate him?

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It's very annoying. This is why I can't be around religion topics with people.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

If you believe in a God, you're not only an idiot, but you're a piece of shit as well. I fucking HATE people that justify what they do based on God. Fuck them

I'm praying for you:)
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Pray for me too god dammit!
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Bad_Mojo posted...

If you believe in a God, you're not only an idiot, but you're a piece of shit as well. I fucking HATE people that justify what they do based on God. Fuck them

You do know that just because a lot of shitty people believe in god doesn't automatically make everyone who believe in god shitty people, right?
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I guess I can't share my thoughts. That's cool, Gamefaqs been like this the entire time. I know, but sometimes you just have to speak up
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I remember when I believed in Christianity

Those were interesting times
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DaveTheUseless posted...

I remember when I believed in Christianity

Those were interesting times

Mine lasted 2 months then I figured it all out lol.
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Austin_Era_II posted...

DaveTheUseless posted...

I remember when I believed in Christianity

Those were interesting times

Mine lasted 2 months then I figured it all out lol.

I spent most of my life dealing with intense guilt due to a Calvinist upbringing

I went back to a different Calvinist church a few years ago to try to 'make amends'

Things did not end well
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Imagine a mere mortal believing they can comprehend the plan of God aka the omnipotent creator of the universe.

And getting mad at what they think they understand.

If there is a God it's more likely Abraxas in charge and Ialdabaoth trying to take all the credit since Abraxas gives zero fucks.
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No as Lisa from the Simpson's once said:
"I'm no theologian. I don't know who or what God is, exactly, all I know is He is a force more powerful than Mom and Dad put together and you owe Him big."
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r25 posted...

Imagine a mere mortal believing they can comprehend the plan of God aka the omnipotent creator of the universe.

And getting mad at what they think they understand.

Imagine thinking this was made for us like us monkeys on a flying space rock in an expanding universe are somehow important. Religion makes people think they matter, when the universe says "lol".
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I knew you'd get modded.
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He sounds like kind of a dick, so yeah. Probably.
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No, you can't hate what probably doesn't even have consciousness or goals. God IRL is probably more or less a concept or a phenomena.

It's like hating oxygen for it being necessary to our survival.
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GregShmedley posted...

Austin_Era_II posted...

Due to people suffering and dying.

I personally believe this points more towards him having zero power on Earth. If anything, the Devil has the power on Earth.

or, more realistically, you could just belive that neither fucking exists...
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spudger posted...

GregShmedley posted...

Austin_Era_II posted...

Due to people suffering and dying.

I personally believe this points more towards him having zero power on Earth. If anything, the Devil has the power on Earth.

or, more realistically, you could just belive that neither fucking exists...

Or, get this, the Greeks were right all along with Zues ruling us all alongside Poseidon, Hades, and the other mythical gods.
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AttackUp posted...

spudger posted...

GregShmedley posted...

Austin_Era_II posted...

Due to people suffering and dying.

I personally believe this points more towards him having zero power on Earth. If anything, the Devil has the power on Earth.

or, more realistically, you could just belive that neither fucking exists...

Or, get this, the Greeks were right all along with Zues ruling us all alongside Poseidon, Hades, and the other mythical gods.

Zeus is the one true chad
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legendarylemur posted...

AttackUp posted...

spudger posted...

GregShmedley posted...

Austin_Era_II posted...

Due to people suffering and dying.

I personally believe this points more towards him having zero power on Earth. If anything, the Devil has the power on Earth.

or, more realistically, you could just belive that neither fucking exists...

Or, get this, the Greeks were right all along with Zues ruling us all alongside Poseidon, Hades, and the other mythical gods.

Zeus is the one true chad

That guy could fuck whoever he wanted
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r25 posted...

Imagine a mere mortal believing they can comprehend the plan of God aka the omnipotent creator of the universe.

And getting mad at what they think they understand.

Imagine being the omnipotent creator of the universe but not being intelligent enough to explain your plan to humanity.
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No
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God and all of his abilities, rules and origin are all made up and make no sense. They just tell you.
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ImmatureContent posted...

r25 posted...

Imagine a mere mortal believing they can comprehend the plan of God aka the omnipotent creator of the universe.

And getting mad at what they think they understand.

Imagine being the omnipotent creator of the universe but not being intelligent enough to explain your plan to humanity.

shots fired
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DaveTheUseless posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

r25 posted...

Imagine a mere mortal believing they can comprehend the plan of God aka the omnipotent creator of the universe.

And getting mad at what they think they understand.

Imagine being the omnipotent creator of the universe but not being intelligent enough to explain your plan to humanity.

shots fired

That's like a human trying to explain how the world works to a termite.

r25 posted...

DaveTheUseless posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

r25 posted...

Imagine a mere mortal believing they can comprehend the plan of God aka the omnipotent creator of the universe.

And getting mad at what they think they understand.

Imagine being the omnipotent creator of the universe but not being intelligent enough to explain your plan to humanity.

shots fired

That's like a human trying to explain how the world works to a termite.

So god isn't even smart enough to be able to give a single explanation? Wow
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A termite isn't even at our level.
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r25 posted...

DaveTheUseless posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

r25 posted...

Imagine a mere mortal believing they can comprehend the plan of God aka the omnipotent creator of the universe.

And getting mad at what they think they understand.

Imagine being the omnipotent creator of the universe but not being intelligent enough to explain your plan to humanity.

shots fired

That's like a human trying to explain how the world works to a termite.

Humans didn't create termites and never asked termites to worship humanity. Humans are under no obligation to explain anything to termites. Furthermore, humans are not omnipotent. If humans were omnipotent, they would no doubt be able to communicate with termites on the termites' level. Why can god not simply explain things to humans in layman's terms? The onus is not on us to understand, it is on god to explain.
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Some day, I will die and see God for my final judgement.
My only question is going to be, "what is gravity, really?"

Hate a God who offers you eternal bliss for simply believing in him? Sounds pretty stupid.
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I wouldn't say I'd hate the Christian god if he really existed, but certainly would consider him worthy of contempt and rejection at best. His teachings and actions go against all basic sense of morality

The edge
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Vindris_SNH posted...

Hate a God who offers you eternal bliss for simply believing in him? Sounds pretty stupid.

You can believe in him and not get bliss. And what if an atheist is a doctor and is kind and saves lives? So his only fault is being an atheist and he'll be in eternal hell? Fuck that.
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Austin_Era_II posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Hate a God who offers you eternal bliss for simply believing in him? Sounds pretty stupid.

You can believe in him and not get bliss. And what if an atheist is a doctor and is kind and saves lives? So his only fault is being an atheist and he'll be in eternal hell? Fuck that.

Im not christian but I did like this one thing I read on the purpose atheists serve (was being said by a Christian) and that it was to show people can be good simply because they are good. They dont need a reward/punishment incentive of heaven or hell and thats what people should strive for, being good just because they are good people.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Austin_Era_II posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Hate a God who offers you eternal bliss for simply believing in him? Sounds pretty stupid.

You can believe in him and not get bliss. And what if an atheist is a doctor and is kind and saves lives? So his only fault is being an atheist and he'll be in eternal hell? Fuck that.

Im not christian but I did like this one thing I read on the purpose atheists serve (was being said by a Christian) and that it was to show people can be good simply because they are good. They dont need a reward/punishment incentive of heaven or hell and thats what people should strive for, being good just because they are good people.

So what you're saying is that you believe Christians would be evil people if one day they found out God wasn't real?

Austin_Era_II posted...

You can believe in him and not get bliss. And what if an atheist is a doctor and is kind and saves lives? So his only fault is being an atheist and he'll be in eternal hell? Fuck that.

According to John 3:16 all you need to do is believe and your sins are forgiven and you enjoy eternal bliss after you die.

Regarding your doctor analogy, I believe everyone has an innate understanding that there is something spiritual at work in the world, and those who refuse to seek the truth or accept it when they find it are dooming themselves. IMO atheists are in denial because they don't like the idea of having to answer to a higher power. They don't want to worry about eternal consequences, so they pretend that God isn't real. It's interesting how angry and bitter they get about a God they don't even believe in (this thread is the perfect example).
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Vindris_SNH posted...

So what you're saying is that you believe Christians would be evil people if one day they found out God wasn't real

I think its more they would have potentionally been bad people if they werent raised without the fear of hell or promise of heaven.

Either way thats not the point. The point ia people shouldnt need incentive or fear tactics to make them do good things and atheists who do selfless acts demonstrate that idea.
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Dooming themself? John 3:16 is the biggest joke. All you have to do is believe. So the abusing husband who's a Christian goes to Heaven but the good and caring atheists who donates and saves lives burns in Hell. You don't see a fucking problem with this?
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Bad_Mojo posted...

I guess I can't share my thoughts. That's cool, Gamefaqs been like this the entire time. I know, but sometimes you just have to speak up

When it resorts to flaming, yeah you can't share your thoughts.

I'd guarantee if a Christian came in here and said everyone who doesn't believe in God are pieces of shit that go to hell it'd be moderated all the same.
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I dont believe in god, but im stoll open minded dnough to entertain some hypothetical discussion

so here's one for the bible belt: what if our time here on earth is merely a "beta test" for hell? we're plucked from some holy que to have our time within the program, and if the experience doesn't break our divinity only then are we allowed into paradise, otherwise the "life" we just lived was but a playable demo of hell
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

So what you're saying is that you believe Christians would be evil people if one day they found out God wasn't real

The point is people shouldnt need incentive or fear tactics to make them do good things

And my point was that people who do good things and happen to be Christians would likely do good things even if they didn't believe in God.
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Austin_Era_II posted...

Dooming themself? John 3:16 is the biggest joke. All you have to do is believe. So the abusing husband who's a Christian goes to Heaven but the good and caring atheists who donates and saves lives burns in Hell. You don't see a fucking problem with this?

Again, if you don't believe it why are you so angry about it?
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Vindris_SNH posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

So what you're saying is that you believe Christians would be evil people if one day they found out God wasn't real

The point is people shouldnt need incentive or fear tactics to make them do good things

And my point was that people who do good things and happen to be Christians would likely do good things even if they didn't believe in God.

But with them you never know if its because of the fear/incentive. Thats the whole point, atheists show its not needed because they have no incentive. So yes even christians dont need it to be good but its atheists who demonstrate the fact. Sure there is prison but im talking selfless acts like doing a good deed with no intention of gaining anything from it.

Basically anytime a Christian does something good despite if they are just truly a good person or not one can make the assumption they do it for a religious reason. With a atheist you cant.
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Vindris_SNH posted...

Austin_Era_II posted...

Dooming themself? John 3:16 is the biggest joke. All you have to do is believe. So the abusing husband who's a Christian goes to Heaven but the good and caring atheists who donates and saves lives burns in Hell. You don't see a fucking problem with this?

Again, if you don't believe it why are you so angry about it?

So I can kill someone and still go to Heaven. You're okay with me being a Christian then raping and killing your mom? Then I say well I made a mistake and I'm not perfect so Jesus died for my sins so I'll be in Heaven with your mom.
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r25 posted...

Imagine a mere mortal believing they can comprehend the plan of God aka the omnipotent creator of the universe.

And getting mad at what they think they understand.

r25 posted...

That's like a human trying to explain how the world works to a termite.

You gotta believe there are a few problems with this process of logic. For one thing your implication that God cannot explain himself or intervene as doing so would either be incomprehensible for humanity or would tarnish his plan raises questions about the competency and power of him.

If God is comparable to a parent raising a child or a human to a termite that can't comprehend 'adult' concepts beyond their understanding. Then he is flawed just as a parent. A powerful deity like God described in the Bible and Qu'ran should be able to intervene and affect/improve humanity and allow us to understand God and God's plan. While still sticking to the plan.

If God cannot do that, then he is not all powerful or all knowing. And is no better than The World's Strongest Man Mark Henry:



An extremely powerful being sure and one you should fear the wrath of. But a flawed being with limitations and errors. To be respected and cheered or mocked and jeered by fans. But not worshiped and followed.

Switching gears now, your view also creates a dangerous and scary additional thought. Which is if we assume God is beyond human comprehension AND has an ultimate plan. How can assume that he is also benevolent and that his plan benefits human beings?

God might not truly care about the Earth. Our entire history from goop to dinosaurs to human beings could be phase one demo of prey he wants to create for his real prized creations to feed on as food 700 millions years from now.

Again like with former World Champion Mark Henry. As powerful and loving as he is perhaps the scariest thing about him is how malevolent and dangerous he can be to anything in his way when he has a plan:



You rely on 'beyond our understanding' to explain God's actions (or inaction) yet claim our understanding of morality and the Bible and faith to explain why we must understand that God's actions and 'plan' is beneficial to us and therefore worship him unquestioningly.

Why would God even need a plan to begin with? The deity you're describing is merely an ethereal Mark Henry. Not a God to worshiped.
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Austin_Era_II posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Austin_Era_II posted...

Dooming themself? John 3:16 is the biggest joke. All you have to do is believe. So the abusing husband who's a Christian goes to Heaven but the good and caring atheists who donates and saves lives burns in Hell. You don't see a fucking problem with this?

Again, if you don't believe it why are you so angry about it?

So I can kill someone and still go to Heaven. You're okay with me being a Christian then raping and killing your mom? Then I say well I made a mistake and I'm not perfect so Jesus died for my sins so I'll be in Heaven with your mom.

Um, have you read scripture?
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I have. Have you seen how majority of Christians and Catholics act? And how they justify their sins which they do on a daily bases? Like I said you rarely see a goody goody God fearing person. They exist but not many. It's like comparing Mother Teresa to George Bush. Know what I mean?
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Austin_Era_II posted...

You still amaze me!

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