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marc55
05/17/19 9:14:55 AM
#102:


going by some clips i watched charmed reboot is closer to what people complain about on this thread than batwoman
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Dyinglegacy
05/17/19 9:15:54 AM
#103:


meh
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Malfunction
05/17/19 9:19:21 AM
#104:


its fascinating to see how men on the internet react to what they see as 'empowering' female self-insert media by comparison to how they consume the male equivalent
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Swagnificent119
05/17/19 9:21:22 AM
#105:


Malfunction posted...
its fascinating to see how men on the internet react to what they see as 'empowering' female self-insert media by comparison to how they consume the male equivalent


You say this as if women and male feminists wouldn't be making the same jokes and rolling their eyes at say a Duke Nukem film.
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TheDrivingForce
05/17/19 9:26:17 AM
#106:


Malfunction posted...
its fascinating to see how men on the internet react to what they see as 'empowering' female self-insert media by comparison to how they consume the male equivalent

You dropped your hat.

Swagnificent119 posted...
Malfunction posted...
its fascinating to see how men on the internet react to what they see as 'empowering' female self-insert media by comparison to how they consume the male equivalent


You say this as if women and male feminists wouldn't be making the same jokes and rolling their eyes at say a Duke Nukem film.

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vocedelmorte
05/17/19 9:55:41 AM
#107:


Capeshit
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Zikten
05/17/19 9:57:04 AM
#108:


vocedelmorte posted...
Capeshit

yea thanks. we didn't know it was a superhero show.
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vocedelmorte
05/17/19 9:58:19 AM
#109:


Zikten posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Capeshit

yea thanks. we didn't know it was a superhero show.

I just learned this word yesterday, i want to use it
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MFstarboy
05/17/19 10:02:13 AM
#110:


TheDrivingForce posted...
I wish these idiots at Hollywood would know that you don't need to try hard, or let everyone know women can be ass kickers too without the obvious virtue signaling. Aliens, and Terminator 2 being excellent examples. Then again, that's what happens when you have Fedora hat tipping neckbeards, and insecure women spread across the industry.

After reading some comments about this, it seems even women are embarrassed by this. And that pretty much sums it be.


Exactly. The T2 woman was a complete badass. Ripley was too.

They dont have to go full stay strong sister, it is tacky and cringe worthy
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Im_JustMe0129
05/17/19 10:03:29 AM
#111:


ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.
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TheDrivingForce
05/17/19 10:05:09 AM
#112:


MFstarboy posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
I wish these idiots at Hollywood would know that you don't need to try hard, or let everyone know women can be ass kickers too without the obvious virtue signaling. Aliens, and Terminator 2 being excellent examples. Then again, that's what happens when you have Fedora hat tipping neckbeards, and insecure women spread across the industry.

After reading some comments about this, it seems even women are embarrassed by this. And that pretty much sums it be.


Exactly. The T2 woman was a complete badass. Ripley was too.

They dont have to go full stay strong sister, it is tacky and cringe worthy

I also forgot Michelle Yeoh from Supercop. Complete bad ass as well, and even outshined Jackie Chan at times in his prime. But never once did it go, "I'M A WOMAN. I NEED NO MAN. HEAR ME ROAR."
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Zikten
05/17/19 10:05:35 AM
#113:


I think the show might not be as bad as you guys think. Like I keep saying, go look up last fall's Arrowverse crossover "Elseworlds". it was the debut of her. we actually saw her for a complete episode almost a year ago. meeting Supergirl, Green Arrow, and Flash. and it was more substantial than this teaser. and she is fine. she was pretty cool even. maybe it's just a bad trailer. I have a strong feeling all the people complaining never actually watched Elseworlds
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
05/17/19 10:08:32 AM
#114:


Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?
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Zikten
05/17/19 10:09:46 AM
#115:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?

i'm sure he doesn't, very few of these complainers bother to read comics. and probably think CW invented Batwoman
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codey
05/17/19 10:15:32 AM
#116:


Zikten posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?

i'm sure he doesn't, very few of these complainers bother to read comics. and probably think CW invented Batwoman


"KEEP YOUR POLITICS OUT OF MY ENTERTAINMENT" says people that don't realize that politics influence themes in literally every story meant for people over the age of two.
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TheDrivingForce
05/17/19 10:17:10 AM
#117:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?

Well, if we are following the comics now to a tee, why is she a short haired platinum chick, and not a long redhead? Oh wait, thats a wig now? Certainly no agenda there. Roar.
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Dragonblade01
05/17/19 10:25:40 AM
#118:


Finally watched the trailer.

I think it looks pretty decent for a CW show to be honest. I don't really get why this is triggering so many people.
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hollow_shrine
05/17/19 10:32:42 AM
#119:


Clearly inspired by Batwoman: Elegy and that's probably a good thing. Everything in this trailer is looking like content from the first two episodes, and that means I've a fairly vague impression of what this show will look like going forward from there.
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Kaldrenthebold
05/17/19 11:01:39 AM
#120:


It looked cool, but those few comments were real eye rolling. I'll just wait now.
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mario2000
05/17/19 11:24:19 AM
#121:


So literally any movie that has a female lead is "feminist propaganda".

This is where we're at now.
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Bumjuice001
05/17/19 11:26:27 AM
#122:


mario2000 posted...
So literally any movie that has a female lead is "feminist propaganda".

This is where we're at now.


Basically.
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Zikten
05/17/19 11:27:13 AM
#123:


TheDrivingForce posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?

Well, if we are following the comics now to a tee, why is she a short haired platinum chick, and not a long redhead? Oh wait, thats a wig now? Certainly no agenda there. Roar.

It's always been a wig. In the comics she has short hair too. It's not quite as incredibly short as the show but she has never had long hair. It's always been a wig
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Bass2
05/17/19 11:29:14 AM
#124:


Bumjuice001 posted...
mario2000 posted...
So literally any movie that has a female lead is "feminist propaganda".

This is where we're at now.


Basically.


And any game, movie or tv show with a gay character is pushing a political agenda.
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Funkydog
05/17/19 11:31:41 AM
#125:


I might have to actually watch this.

But then I have a massive thing for "short haired androgynous chicks" like the main character here >.>
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
05/17/19 11:48:29 AM
#126:


Zikten posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?

Well, if we are following the comics now to a tee, why is she a short haired platinum chick, and not a long redhead? Oh wait, thats a wig now? Certainly no agenda there. Roar.

It's always been a wig. In the comics she has short hair too. It's not quite as incredibly short as the show but she has never had long hair. It's always been a wig

In Elegy (the story which introduced Alice) Kate had basically jaw-length hair, but there were flashbacks which showed her with it shorter and longer than that.

Left is 7 years before Elegy, right is during it.

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CmPope
05/17/19 11:49:21 AM
#127:


MFstarboy posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
I wish these idiots at Hollywood would know that you don't need to try hard, or let everyone know women can be ass kickers too without the obvious virtue signaling. Aliens, and Terminator 2 being excellent examples. Then again, that's what happens when you have Fedora hat tipping neckbeards, and insecure women spread across the industry.

After reading some comments about this, it seems even women are embarrassed by this. And that pretty much sums it be.


Exactly. The T2 woman was a complete badass. Ripley was too.

They dont have to go full stay strong sister, it is tacky and cringe worthy


Lol please I guarantee Ripley and Sarah would be ripped and bashed as feminism if those characters were introduced now.

People like to use them to suit their arguments when they talk about 'strong female characters' yet forget that people back then weren't so mentally fragile when it came to kick ass female characters.
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ReignFury
05/17/19 12:25:22 PM
#128:


Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.


Well if youre going to let identity politics in movies get under your skin then youre probably going to want to skip Hollywood movies altogether because this isnt a new and its not going away.
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darklink1017
05/17/19 12:25:30 PM
#129:


mario2000 posted...
So literally any movie that has a female lead is "feminist propaganda".

This is where we're at now.


No. Wonder woman wasn't feminist propaganda. She was smart, powerful, beautiful, charasmatic. She didn't have penis envy. The way they wrote her character in her standalone film was amazing. She didn't go around bashing men. She judged people based on their character.

And I agree with others in this topic that Ripley from the Alien stores and Sarah Connor from the terminator series are other examples of female leads who are badasses while not enveloping feminist propaganda.
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mario2000
05/17/19 1:34:09 PM
#130:


darklink1017 posted...
mario2000 posted...
So literally any movie that has a female lead is "feminist propaganda".

This is where we're at now.


No. Wonder woman wasn't feminist propaganda. She was smart, powerful, beautiful, charasmatic. She didn't have penis envy. The way they wrote her character in her standalone film was amazing. She didn't go around bashing men. She judged people based on their character.

And I agree with others in this topic that Ripley from the Alien stores and Sarah Connor from the terminator series are other examples of female leads who are badasses while not enveloping feminist propaganda.

So physical attractiveness is a factor to you? That would explain a lot.

And what do you mean by "enveloping feminist propaganda"?
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CyricZ
05/17/19 1:59:42 PM
#131:


Wonder Woman had plenty to say about men, but I can understand if you were distracted.
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pinky0926
05/17/19 2:00:51 PM
#132:


Yeah...this was fucking terrible.

Do women actually feel empowered by this kind of thing? I can't relate obviously, but it just seems kind of embarrassing.
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TheDrivingForce
05/17/19 2:07:18 PM
#133:


Zikten posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?

Well, if we are following the comics now to a tee, why is she a short haired platinum chick, and not a long redhead? Oh wait, thats a wig now? Certainly no agenda there. Roar.

It's always been a wig. In the comics she has short hair too. It's not quite as incredibly short as the show but she has never had long hair. It's always been a wig

Really?

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Zikten
05/17/19 2:10:10 PM
#134:


TheDrivingForce posted...
Zikten posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?

Well, if we are following the comics now to a tee, why is she a short haired platinum chick, and not a long redhead? Oh wait, thats a wig now? Certainly no agenda there. Roar.

It's always been a wig. In the comics she has short hair too. It's not quite as incredibly short as the show but she has never had long hair. It's always been a wig

Really?

7UNb1DV

broken link

but yea. at least since 2011. I first discovered her in the New 52 launch in 2011. if she had had long hair before that, it's not even canon now anyway. anything before 2011 is non canon after the reboot
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TheDrivingForce
05/17/19 2:12:29 PM
#135:


7UNb1DV

also, relaunch, non cannon now? lol, no wonder comic's a dying medium.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
05/17/19 2:21:33 PM
#136:


TheDrivingForce posted...
Zikten posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Im_JustMe0129 posted...
ReignFury posted...
When youre comfortable with your masculinity then this trailer isnt threatening in the least. Feminism is a non issue

Its more the fact that everything has to be political and nothing is pure escapism anymore. I hate having political views, even the ones I agree with, shoved in my face when I want to watch a show to escape that crap. I'm not going to watch this for that reason......if they are going to put bullshit identity politics and "representation" above telling a good story, I'm out.

You do realize that in the comics, Kate is openly gay and got kicked out of West Point for it, right?

Well, if we are following the comics now to a tee, why is she a short haired platinum chick, and not a long redhead? Oh wait, thats a wig now? Certainly no agenda there. Roar.

It's always been a wig. In the comics she has short hair too. It's not quite as incredibly short as the show but she has never had long hair. It's always been a wig

Really?

I think he meant the costume hair has never been hers.
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marc55
05/17/19 2:25:31 PM
#137:


TheDrivingForce posted...
7UNb1DV

also, relaunch, non cannon now? lol, no wonder comic's a dying medium.

i dont see her batwoman costume there

do you ?
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Zikten
05/17/19 2:26:29 PM
#138:


TheDrivingForce posted...
also, relaunch, non cannon now? lol, no wonder comic's a dying medium.

DC has had 3 separate continuities

Pre Crisis from late 30's to 1985
Post Crisis from 1985 to 2011
New 52 2011 to now

it's one thing I prefer about Marvel. they have never done a complete universe reset. but DC has reset twice. so yea, current canon in DC only goes back to August 2011 when Justice League #1 came out after the ending of the Flashpoint event that messed up the universe
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TheDrivingForce
05/17/19 2:27:17 PM
#139:


marc55 posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
7UNb1DV

also, relaunch, non cannon now? lol, no wonder comic's a dying medium.

i dont see her batwoman costume there

do you ?

I never mentioned about a batwoman costume.

Do you?
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TheoryzC
05/17/19 2:29:24 PM
#140:


She has short hair in the comics too
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TheDrivingForce
05/17/19 2:29:32 PM
#141:


Zikten posted...
TheDrivingForce posted...
also, relaunch, non cannon now? lol, no wonder comic's a dying medium.

DC has had 3 separate continuities

Pre Crisis from late 30's to 1985
Post Crisis from 1985 to 2011
New 52 2011 to now

it's one thing I prefer about Marvel. they have never done a complete universe reset. but DC has reset twice. so yea, current canon in DC only goes back to August 2011 when Justice League #1 came out after the ending of the Flashpoint event that messed up the universe

Ok, thank you.
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darklink1017
05/17/19 2:34:32 PM
#142:


mario2000 posted...
So physical attractiveness is a factor to you? That would explain a lot.


Lol. Yeah. Physical attractiveness is a factor to me. I'm not going to dance around it. I like my women attractive. Is that a crime?
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mario2000
05/17/19 2:35:56 PM
#143:


darklink1017 posted...
mario2000 posted...
So physical attractiveness is a factor to you? That would explain a lot.


Lol. Yeah. Physical attractiveness is a factor to me. I'm not going to dance around it. I like my women attractive. Is that a crime?

So if they're not attractive to you then it's feminist propaganda?
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Bluebomber182
05/17/19 2:38:03 PM
#144:


isnt tc the dude who blamed obama for his wife divorcing him?
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darklink1017
05/17/19 2:43:54 PM
#145:


mario2000 posted...
darklink1017 posted...
mario2000 posted...
So physical attractiveness is a factor to you? That would explain a lot.


Lol. Yeah. Physical attractiveness is a factor to me. I'm not going to dance around it. I like my women attractive. Is that a crime?

So if they're not attractive to you then it's feminist propaganda?


No? I never even said that. I said wonder woman had a bunch of great characteristics including being beautiful. Being beautiful is always a plus. Where did I say that being unattractive equates to being feminist propgranda? You're really reaching. Lol.
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darklink1017
05/17/19 2:44:15 PM
#146:


Bluebomber182 posted...
isnt tc the dude who blamed obama for his wife divorcing him?


No? I've never been married lmao. I voted for Obama both terms.
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CyricZ
05/17/19 2:44:39 PM
#147:


darklink1017 posted...
Bluebomber182 posted...
isnt tc the dude who blamed obama for his wife divorcing him?


No? I've never been married lmao. I voted for Obama both terms.

There's more than one "darklink" user.
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CmPope
05/17/19 2:44:42 PM
#148:


darklink1017 posted...
mario2000 posted...
darklink1017 posted...
mario2000 posted...
So physical attractiveness is a factor to you? That would explain a lot.


Lol. Yeah. Physical attractiveness is a factor to me. I'm not going to dance around it. I like my women attractive. Is that a crime?

So if they're not attractive to you then it's feminist propaganda?


No? I never even said that. I said wonder woman had a bunch of great characteristics including being beautiful. Being beautiful is always a plus. Where did I say that being unattractive equates to being feminist propgranda? You're really reaching. Lol.


TC..stop commenting
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darklink1017
05/17/19 2:45:36 PM
#149:


You guys keep posting this Obama divorce thing.. I haven't visited CE in years. Not sure what you're referring to.

Last time I was here the man fan shot up to 97 degrees was still floating around.
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