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Darmik
05/16/19 12:29:38 AM
#51:


I'm pretty sure both The Lion King and Aladdin live action movies have drawn from the Broadway shows FYI.
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Skye Reynolds
05/16/19 12:31:24 AM
#52:


I wasn't talking Broadway. I was talking the cirque du soleil style performance at the Animal Kingdom theme park.
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Darmik
05/16/19 12:32:53 AM
#53:


I was talking about Broadway though
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dave_is_slick
05/16/19 12:42:46 AM
#54:


Skye Reynolds posted...
I watched the Lion King stage show. I guess that'd make it okay if Timon is played by a guy in a Cheese E. Cheese costume.

What is wrong with your brain where you look at this and go "yeah that makes sense"?
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Skye Reynolds
05/16/19 12:47:19 AM
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There are perhaps things from the Broadway show I'd like to see incorporated. Human complexion on a mystical character isn't one of them.

Besides, it's more the symbolic value than anything else. Genie's complexion doesn't make the movie. But the way that he's sometimes just Will Smith running around in a genie garb highlights the cash grab nature of the adaptation. They're not going for the quality of the original. They're going for good enough to make a profit.

Why bother? Not them. I can't blame them for wanting to make money. I'm asking why the fans should bother. Why watch an adaptation of a cherished movie that promises to be alright? A generic Sinbad film I might see. I might spend my money on something that I know is going to be a 6/10 experience. But Aladdin? There's a set bar for that. They should strive for the quality and attention to detail of the original. They should hold off, let Lion King be the big production of this year, and remake Aladdin when it can get the kind of attention that it deserves.
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Darmik
05/16/19 12:48:20 AM
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You must have hated I Dream of Genie.
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Skye Reynolds
05/16/19 12:49:43 AM
#57:


Darmik posted...
You must have hated I Dream of Genie.


You kidding? I still occasionally dream of Barbara Eden.
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RebelElite791
05/16/19 12:50:21 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
> Genie isn't blue
> Jasmine isn't in a bikini
> production values look like a made for TV movie

"Hey guys, wait until you've bought a ticket and sat through two hours of movie before you judge it."

One of these things is not like the others
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Darmik
05/16/19 12:58:26 AM
#59:


Whether or not this movie is good does not rely on Will Smith being blue for the entire movie.

They reference that in the trailer. He'll probably be in that form more than once. It just doesn't matter to people who aren't Skye Reynolds. The sort of person who gets upset at the most inane and miniscule changes.

Animation doesn't automatically transfer to live action fine. The Genie being some blue CGI man for the entire movie could have a big impact on the movie.

The silly thing is there's plenty to criticize already. It looks like the personality of the animation gets lost (and I worry this is the case for The Lion King too). Jafar doesn't seem like a threatening villain at all.

Blue Genie and bikini Jasmine are just weird, immature criticisms.
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Skye Reynolds
05/16/19 12:59:19 AM
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The point is that there's a very definite bar that's been set and we all know it won't be met. We have people saying it's okay to be okay and we have people like me who say you shouldn't try it if you can't match the original.

Changes can be trivial or they can be examples of the lack of effort. Statements like, "He doesn't even have a mustache," or "She doesn't even have blonde hair," are the likes of which you'll only see when dealing with an adaptation that disappoints.

We know enough this movie to know that it won't be as good as the original. For me, that's reason enough to pass on it.
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Darmik
05/16/19 1:02:56 AM
#61:


It's not about the lack of effort.

If the blue Genie looks bad in the sunlight or in close ups (and honestly this is probably the case) it's going to be a hell of a lot more distracting than Will Smith changing forms for when it's appropriate.

Skye Reynolds posted...
Changes can be trivial or they can be examples of the lack of effort. Statements like, "He doesn't even have a mustache," or "She doesn't even have blonde hair," are the likes of which you'll only see when dealing with an adaptation that disappoints.


Not the case at all.

Don't think I forget about the whining you have over Spider-man Homecoming or the Nolan Batman movies.
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IloveJesus
05/16/19 1:58:42 AM
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SaccharineSmile posted...
The kids these days would consider it outdated


No they don't. I teach kids and they love the old animated Disney films.
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Member1
05/16/19 2:13:33 AM
#63:


I was never even that big a fan of Disney but I think the movie looks cool. Why the hate?
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fusespliff
05/16/19 2:16:14 AM
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IloveJesus posted...
SaccharineSmile posted...
The kids these days would consider it outdated


No they don't. I teach kids and they love the old animated Disney films.


Yeah, that's a ridiculous statement. We enjoyed Disney movies from the freaking 30s and 40s just fine in the 80s and 90s.
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warnerbroman
05/16/19 2:27:17 AM
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Darmik posted...
But the only live action Disney movie to flop so far is Dumbo. Beauty and the Beast and The Jungle Book were absolutely massive.

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Skye Reynolds
05/16/19 10:03:44 AM
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Darmik posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Changes can be trivial or they can be examples of the lack of effort. Statements like, "He doesn't even have a mustache," or "She doesn't even have blonde hair," are the likes of which you'll only see when dealing with an adaptation that disappoints.


Not the case at all.

Don't think I forget about the whining you have over Spider-man Homecoming or the Nolan Batman movies.


And you think this will be as well received as those movies?
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RuffledPeanuts
05/16/19 11:24:14 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Aside from the merchant at the beginning, was there ever a time when Genie truly assumed human form? He did a couple of sight gags like becoming an old man or a humanized self for literally seconds at a time, but there was never a point when he adopted a full on human appearance to blend in with the people around him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEryAoLfnAA" data-time="

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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/16/19 11:25:50 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
> Genie isn't blue
> Jasmine isn't in a bikini
> production values look like a made for TV movie

"Hey guys, wait until you've bought a ticket and sat through two hours of movie before you judge it."


Yeah in the scene where hes pretending to be human. Saaaaawing and a miss, the rest of your post is irrelevant because you don't know what you're talking about
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Were_Wyrm
05/16/19 11:29:17 AM
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No Gilbert Gottfried, no care
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Kitt
05/16/19 11:32:12 AM
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Lol you guys are upset because they're remaking some old movie you were fond of. I, however, saw Guy Ritchie's name and that alone was enough for me to know to stay away from it.
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voldothegr8
05/16/19 11:44:33 AM
#71:


Alucard188 posted...
I don't understand why Disney is having this live action conversion Renaissance.

All to keep copyrights probably
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Jiggy101011
05/16/19 11:52:43 AM
#72:


SaccharineSmile posted...
Imagine not accepting that the new live action remake is actually for the new generation of kids like you once were (or still are)


This. I dont understand why grown ass men in their 20s and 30s are thinking these live action remakes should be made with them in mind. My 4 year old niece LOVES the Emma Watson Beauty and the Beast, shes probably watched it 15 times. You know who is going to love the new Aladdin? My 4 year old niece... because that is the target audience.
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ultimate reaver
05/16/19 11:56:33 AM
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warnerbroman
05/16/19 12:12:13 PM
#74:


Jiggy101011 posted...
SaccharineSmile posted...
Imagine not accepting that the new live action remake is actually for the new generation of kids like you once were (or still are)


This. I dont understand why grown ass men in their 20s and 30s are thinking these live action remakes should be made with them in mind. My 4 year old niece LOVES the Emma Watson Beauty and the Beast, shes probably watched it 15 times. You know who is going to love the new Aladdin? My 4 year old niece... because that is the target audience.

10 years later

This. I dont understand why grown ass men in their 20s and 30s are thinking these live action remakes should be made with them in mind. My 4 year old niece LOVES the Princess and the frog remake, shes probably watched it 15 times. You know who is going to love the new Tangled? My 4 year old niece... because that is the target audience

5 years later

This. I dont understand why grown ass men in their 20s and 30s are thinking these live action remakes should be made with them in mind. My 4 year old niece LOVES the Wreck it Ralph remake , shes probably watched it 15 times. You know who is going to love the new Frozen? My 4 year old niece... because that is the target audience

3 years later... This. I dont understand why grown ass men in their 20s and 30s are thinking these live action remakes should be made with them in mind. My 4 year old niece LOVES Moana and the Sea, shes probably watched it 15 times. You know who is going to love the new Bolt? My 4 year old niece... because that is the target audience

My Parents weren't even born when Snow white was made yet I can watch that movie just fine, and so did everyone else. "For a new generation" is a weak excuse that enables Xerox style that Disney been using since the 60's.
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Skye Reynolds
05/16/19 10:24:44 PM
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RuffledPeanuts posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Aside from the merchant at the beginning, was there ever a time when Genie truly assumed human form? He did a couple of sight gags like becoming an old man or a humanized self for literally seconds at a time, but there was never a point when he adopted a full on human appearance to blend in with the people around him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEryAoLfnAA" data-time="
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Knowledge_King
05/17/19 9:22:17 AM
#76:


The live remakes are 100% terrible and garbage in every way.

There's nothing they can do to make it good. The superior movie already exists and at best they're making a really good remake.
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RuffledPeanuts
05/17/19 2:50:00 PM
#77:


Skye Reynolds posted...
RuffledPeanuts posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Aside from the merchant at the beginning, was there ever a time when Genie truly assumed human form? He did a couple of sight gags like becoming an old man or a humanized self for literally seconds at a time, but there was never a point when he adopted a full on human appearance to blend in with the people around him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEryAoLfnAA" data-time="

Why did you edit out your comment? This is literally the same song that was just released. He's been shown to be blue outside of this scene in promotional trailers. His color really doesn't matter, though.
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InTheEyesOfFire
05/17/19 2:51:53 PM
#78:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
it looks so lifeless and dull

there is no energy in the Prince Ali rendition they tried. Totally inferior to the original. I'm not even this huge Disney fanboy that'll put up the 90s films on a pedestal - they're just enjoyable family movies, but they were animated for a reason.


Smith sounds like he doesnt even want to be there. Its so bad.
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ledbowman
05/17/19 2:54:21 PM
#79:


There is exactly 0% of the new Lion King that is live-action.
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Skye Reynolds
05/17/19 10:00:15 PM
#80:


RuffledPeanuts posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
RuffledPeanuts posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Aside from the merchant at the beginning, was there ever a time when Genie truly assumed human form? He did a couple of sight gags like becoming an old man or a humanized self for literally seconds at a time, but there was never a point when he adopted a full on human appearance to blend in with the people around him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEryAoLfnAA" data-time="

Why did you edit out your comment? This is literally the same song that was just released. He's been shown to be blue outside of this scene in promotional trailers. His color really doesn't matter, though.


Because the bolded part is the important part. Genie's only human for seconds at a time. Then he changes to someone or something else.

Here, he's just gonna be some guy walking the streets. This is a made for TV movie with an extravagant budget. Aladdin deserves better than this.
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