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SaccharineSmile
05/15/19 10:00:24 PM
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I want this hair style!

Sorry, the state said youre not allowed to

But its my hair....
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Questionmarktarius
05/15/19 10:01:54 PM
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It's not every day I get to use this reaction image....

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UnfairRepresent
05/15/19 10:02:38 PM
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Funny how many people who have this view suddenly go silent when "Your body, our decision" is brought up about drug usage.

1 in 6 people in prison (for profit prison too earning near slave wages) are there for drug related offenses in the land of the "free"

But suddenly your body only counts when dealing with sex and pregnancy.
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PROGRAMER2004
05/15/19 10:03:50 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Funny how many people who have this view suddenly go silent when "Your body, our decision" is brought up about drug usage.

1 in 6 people in prison (for profit prison too earning near slave wages) are there for drug related offenses in the land of the "free"

But suddenly your body only counts when dealing with sex and pregnancy.

Post 3 and UR is already off to a rolling "GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND DEBATE BULLSHIT NOT RELATED WITH ME" start
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UnfairRepresent
05/15/19 10:06:40 PM
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PROGRAMER2004 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Funny how many people who have this view suddenly go silent when "Your body, our decision" is brought up about drug usage.

1 in 6 people in prison (for profit prison too earning near slave wages) are there for drug related offenses in the land of the "free"

But suddenly your body only counts when dealing with sex and pregnancy.

Post 3 and UR is already off to a rolling "GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND DEBATE BULLSHIT NOT RELATED WITH ME" start

How is it not related?

But thanks for proving my point.

"Body autonomy is not related to body autonomy!"
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Questionmarktarius
05/15/19 10:06:52 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Funny how many people who have this view suddenly go silent when "Your body, our decision" is brought up about drug usage.


Or, you know...

...vaccines

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Prestoff
05/15/19 10:07:54 PM
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Bodily autonomy should be the primary reason for the legalization of abortion.
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PROGRAMER2004
05/15/19 10:08:23 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...

How is it not related?

But thanks for proving my point.

"Body autonomy is not related to body autonomy!"

Someone already took your bait.
Here's the thing - you take whatever side will get the most bites in any argument.
In the topci about it, you were shunning those who were arguing it's a good thing.
Here, you're arguing this is a good thing

So basically, don't try to troll me - it works about as well as trying to win an argument with your tactics which has never actually happened ^__^
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Delirious_Beard
05/15/19 10:09:34 PM
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UR's friends: "You're not a contrarian"
UR: "Yes i am!"
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UnfairRepresent
05/15/19 10:10:41 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Funny how many people who have this view suddenly go silent when "Your body, our decision" is brought up about drug usage.


Or, you know...

...vaccines

Ehh

I see the difference with vaccines.

Not vacinating your children puts other people at risk. Brings back diseases we thought we had defeated. That's going beyond body autonomy because you are directly affecting other people.

We can't force you to give blood in order to save lives.
But we can force you to not harm or kill others.

Or at the very least exile you.
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Pyrocitor
05/15/19 10:11:13 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Funny how many people who have this view suddenly go silent when "Your body, our decision" is brought up about drug usage.


Or, you know...

...vaccines

aF2mEn0

Antivaxxers arguably create a negative effect on communities as a whole though due to the viruses incubating in them and mutating to bypass vaccines, thus getting others sick. An abortion affects no one outside of the woman and man.
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Questionmarktarius
05/15/19 10:12:30 PM
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Pyrocitor posted...
An abortion affects no one outside of the woman and man.

Well... and also the physician, the clinic staff, and maybe a laboratory and/or cosmetics firm.
Possibly even Greyhound Bus Lines, if this trends continue.
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BLAKUboy
05/15/19 10:12:47 PM
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2019 and people are still feeding UR.
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UnfairRepresent
05/15/19 10:13:21 PM
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PROGRAMER2004 posted...

In the topci about it, you were shunning those who were arguing it's a good thing.
Here, you're arguing this is a good thing


Da fuck are you even trying to say here

So basically, don't try to troll me


Pointing out that you said something instantly incorrect is not trolling.

You claiming body autonomy is not related to body autonomy can't be responded to by going "UR A TOLDSOKSGOSJGSFKFK TORLLL!L!L! TROLLL!"

That's close to the definition of insanity.

Questionmarktarius posted...
Pyrocitor posted...
An abortion affects no one outside of the woman and man.

Well... and also the physician, the clinic staff, and maybe a laboratory and/or cosmetics firm.
Possibly even Greyhound Bus Lines, if this trends continue.


I think you're being hyper-literal
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PROGRAMER2004
05/15/19 10:14:09 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
UR's friends: "You're not a contrarian"
UR: "Yes i am!"

Contrarians generally present good arguments and do so for the thrill of debate
UR just recycles his repeated tactics of "lol u didn't really mean that, Imma change what you said so I can scream the same thing over and over until you stop responding and LOL LOOK NO RESPONSE LOL I WIN"
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UnfairRepresent
05/15/19 10:15:45 PM
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Nothing but evasions and insults.

User Since: May 2019
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Active Posts: 89

As I figured.

I know whose alt you are. I'll get modded if I point it out, but we all know
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TheBiggerWiggle
05/15/19 10:17:16 PM
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Ill never take UR seriously, but I can never ignore him either. Posts like #3 are fucking gold lmao
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spudger
05/15/19 10:34:21 PM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Ill never take UR seriously, but I can never ignore him either. Posts like #3 are fucking gold lmao

i dont even understand what his point is. is he assuming tc is for for-profit prisons, or imprisoning non violent drug offenders?
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PROGRAMER2004
05/15/19 10:35:45 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Nothing but evasions and insults.

User Since: May 2019
Karma: 5
Active Posts: 89

As I figured.

I know whose alt you are. I'll get modded if I point it out, but we all know

POST IT! POST WHO I AM YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION

spudger posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Ill never take UR seriously, but I can never ignore him either. Posts like #3 are fucking gold lmao

i dont even understand what his point is. is he assuming tc is for for-profit prisons, or imprisoning non violent drug offenders?

His point is: I will say things to bait you into insulting me and then mark you
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UnfairRepresent
05/15/19 11:07:10 PM
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spudger posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Ill never take UR seriously, but I can never ignore him either. Posts like #3 are fucking gold lmao

i dont even understand what his point is. is he assuming tc is for for-profit prisons, or imprisoning non violent drug offenders?

Not specifically TC

Just the attitude that body autonomy and freedom is massively super important for pregnancy

But then body autonomy and freedom means jack shit in all other contexts.

The lazy hypocrisy as a society bugs me.

And you pretending you are literally incapable of conprehending that in a lazy attempt to evade is just more proof of how valid a point it is.
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TheBiggerWiggle
05/16/19 12:32:29 AM
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spudger posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Ill never take UR seriously, but I can never ignore him either. Posts like #3 are fucking gold lmao

i dont even understand what his point is. is he assuming tc is for for-profit prisons, or imprisoning non violent drug offenders?


Exactly what I mean. No one knows what he means. It's just insane ramblings to bait people into an argument about something completely irrelevant.
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C_Pain
05/16/19 12:33:18 AM
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abortion is murder
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Vindris_SNH
05/16/19 12:39:47 AM
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The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.
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Darmik
05/16/19 12:41:36 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.


Do you ever need to make that decision?
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Vindris_SNH
05/16/19 12:42:19 AM
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Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.


Do you ever need to make that decision?


Whose job is it to protect human life?
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Rika_Furude
05/16/19 12:42:54 AM
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Childs body, her decision?
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Pyrocitor
05/16/19 12:43:20 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.


Do you ever need to make that decision?


Whose job is it to protect human life?

Almighty Jeebus, of course
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Darmik
05/16/19 12:43:57 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.


Do you ever need to make that decision?


Whose job is it to protect human life?


You didn't answer the question.

Is carrying a developing life in your body for 9 months something you ever need to worry about?
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Vindris_SNH
05/16/19 12:46:39 AM
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Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.


Do you ever need to make that decision?


Whose job is it to protect human life?


You didn't answer the question.

Is carrying a developing life in your body for 9 months something you ever need to worry about?


You didn't answer my question.
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PROGRAMER2004
05/16/19 12:47:15 AM
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Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.


Do you ever need to make that decision?

he asked first

now, don't get me wrong, you are trolling and just trying to bait Darmik but ultimately... why backtrack and make it so obvious?
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Vindris_SNH
05/16/19 12:49:21 AM
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PROGRAMER2004 posted...
Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.


Do you ever need to make that decision?

he asked first

now, don't get me wrong, you are trolling and just trying to bait Darmik but ultimately... why backtrack and make it so obvious?


"You're trolling"

Pretty lazy way to duck a debate.
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PROGRAMER2004
05/16/19 12:49:43 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
PROGRAMER2004 posted...
Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
The entire future of an innocent living human being

VS

9 months of a woman's womb

... Pretty easy logical decision.


Do you ever need to make that decision?

he asked first

now, don't get me wrong, you are trolling and just trying to bait Darmik but ultimately... why backtrack and make it so obvious?


"You're trolling"

Pretty lazy way to duck a debate.

There we go.
Darmik, stop responding to accounts who only troll, thank you!
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Vicious_Dios
05/16/19 12:53:37 AM
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Imagine equating a fetus to a fucking knot of hair.

It doesn't get more deranged than that.
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Pyrocitor
05/16/19 12:54:40 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Imagine equating a fetus to a fucking knot of hair.

It doesn't get more deranged than that.

Waaah
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Vicious_Dios
05/16/19 12:59:41 AM
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Pyrocitor sez...
Waaah


Are you going to be okay there, guy? Want me to go fetch your parents?
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Darmik
05/16/19 1:04:50 AM
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Imagine telling people that a decision you never have to worry about or make is easy.
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Pyrocitor
05/16/19 1:05:24 AM
#37:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Pyrocitor sez...
Waaah


Are you going to be okay there, guy? Want me to go fetch your parents?

Says the guy whining
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Vindris_SNH
05/16/19 1:06:16 AM
#38:


Darmik posted...
Imagine telling people that a decision you never have to worry about or make is easy.


The decision to kill a defenseless, innocent human being or not is pretty fucking easy.
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Vicious_Dios
05/16/19 1:06:37 AM
#39:


Pyrocitor posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Pyrocitor sez...
Waaah


Are you going to be okay there, guy? Want me to go fetch your parents?

Says the guy whining


Is that a no?
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Pyrocitor
05/16/19 1:07:26 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
Darmik posted...
Imagine telling people that a decision you never have to worry about or make is easy.


The decision to kill a defenseless, innocent human being or not is pretty fucking easy.

The issue being that not everyone agrees that a fetus is a human being. Science doesn't agree with that presumption.
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Vindris_SNH
05/16/19 1:09:29 AM
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Pyrocitor posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Darmik posted...
Imagine telling people that a decision you never have to worry about or make is easy.


The decision to kill a defenseless, innocent human being or not is pretty fucking easy.

The issue being that not everyone agrees that a fetus is a human being. Science doesn't agree with that presumption.


WRONG. Science proves human life begins at conception. Educate yourself and stop using this asinine and outdated argument to defend abortion.
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Vicious_Dios
05/16/19 1:10:44 AM
#42:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Pyrocitor posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Darmik posted...
Imagine telling people that a decision you never have to worry about or make is easy.


The decision to kill a defenseless, innocent human being or not is pretty fucking easy.

The issue being that not everyone agrees that a fetus is a human being. Science doesn't agree with that presumption.


WRONG. Science proves human life begins at conception. Educate yourself and stop using this asinine and outdated argument to defend abortion.


It was never much of an argument to begin with.
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Darmik
05/16/19 1:11:08 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
WRONG. Science proves human life begins at conception. Educate yourself and stop using this asinine and outdated argument to defend abortion.


You could literally breathe in that 'human life' and not even notice.
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Pyrocitor
05/16/19 1:11:38 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
Science proves human life begins at conception

Vindris_SNH posted...
WRONG
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Foppe
05/16/19 1:12:24 AM
#45:


This sounds a lot like that Tyranny that the Second Amendment would protect us against...
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Vindris_SNH
05/16/19 1:12:59 AM
#46:


Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
WRONG. Science proves human life begins at conception. Educate yourself and stop using this asinine and outdated argument to defend abortion.


You could literally breathe in that 'human life' and not even notice.


ITT: The size of a human determines whether or not their life should be protected by our laws
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Darmik
05/16/19 1:14:31 AM
#47:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Darmik posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
WRONG. Science proves human life begins at conception. Educate yourself and stop using this asinine and outdated argument to defend abortion.


You could literally breathe in that 'human life' and not even notice.


ITT: The size of a human determines whether or not their life should be protected by our laws


A tiny human being isn't automatically formed at conception.

Like I'm pretty sure I can't kill a 'human life' if I went on a rollercoaster. Guess who can?
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hockeybub89
05/16/19 1:14:51 AM
#48:


Vindris_SNH posted...
WRONG. Science proves human life begins at conception.

How is that an argument against abortion
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Vindris_SNH
05/16/19 1:15:04 AM
#49:


Pyrocitor posted...
I stop relying on science when it contradicts my beliefs

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Pyrocitor
05/16/19 1:15:09 AM
#50:


@ScazarMeltex laid out a great argument in another thread and no anti abortionists could refute it. Gonna copy it here

It's not spin, it's simple science.
In as few words as possible (and ignoring the critical issue of the mothers complete autonomy), defined human life begins the moment its twin, death, also springs into existence. Without death there is no life. The former begets the latter. The latter assigns meaning to the former. One delineates the other, and the definition of human death is not in dispute. Death is the permanent loss of capacity for consciousness and all brainstem functions. Or more simply put: death is when electroencephalography (EEG) activity ceases. Thats it. Thats death, and a 2002 survey published in the journal Neurology comparing worldwide standards and regulations of death found brain death to be the universal legal and medical measure accepted across the globe. In the U.S., laws on brain death vary by state, but all states recognise that death is determined by the irreversible cessation of brain function, or as bluntly stated in the journal, Nature Reviews, Neuroscience: Brain death means human deathAnd for very good reason. Consider this simple fact: Theoretically, I can remove the heart from an adult human being, and for just as long as I keep blood flowing through the body, that person will remain being a living person because their brain is still working naturally. You cannot do the reverse of this experiment.

On first inspection, it follows quite naturally that the onset of a defined human life appears to be when foetal brain activity begins to exhibit regular and sustained activity, and this occurs consistently around week 25. It is an important milestone when considering the ethical-cum-legal lines of abortion, but it is crucial to note that the brains major physical substratesthose structures essential for consciousnessare not, however, complete until week 28, after which the process to full bilateral synchronisation begins.
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