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brestugo
05/15/19 7:09:18 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/white-house-says-it-won-t-sign-international-agreement-combat-n1006046

The United States says it supports an international effort to find ways to stop social media from spreading hate but won't take part in it.

In a statement issued Wednesday, the White House praised the call to action in the name of Christchurch being spearheaded by New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and French President Emmanuel Macron.

"The United States stands with the international community in condemning terrorist and violent extremist content online in the strongest terms," the White House said, but added that it is "not currently in a position to join the endorsement."

That makes the U.S. an outlier. Allies including the United Kingdom, Japan, Australia, Italy, India, Germany and Spain are all listed as signing on to the effort. Numerous technology giants are involved as well, including Amazon, Facebook, Google, Twitter and YouTube.

In its statement, the White House suggested that First Amendment concerns were stopping the Trump administration from joining in the agreement.

"We continue to be proactive in our efforts to counter terrorist content online while also continuing to respect freedom of expression and freedom of the press," the statement said. The White House later tweeted that the administration is "fighting for free speech online," and urged people who feel they've been censored because of "political bias" to share their stories on the White House's website.

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Payzmaykr
05/15/19 7:10:24 PM
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I think we have enough monitoring and censorship, thank you.
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Blue_Dream87
05/15/19 7:11:13 PM
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I am shocked, SHOCKED I say
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Irony
05/15/19 7:11:19 PM
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Countries that do sign this are garbage
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tennisdude818
05/15/19 7:11:45 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
I think we have enough monitoring and censorship, thank you.

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ultimate reaver
05/15/19 7:13:42 PM
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Trump has a lot he owes extremists recruiting people and sowing chaos. Even if he isn't directly causing it, he's profiting off it. You'd be hard pressed to get him to cut the legs off of that shit this far into the game with another election looming
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Abiz_
05/15/19 7:16:42 PM
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We have freedom of expression. Can't sign up for anti-constitution shit. One of New Zealand reactions to the shooting was to make a law to arrest anyone who shared the video online. So yeah, no.
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Esrac
05/15/19 7:20:58 PM
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Well, what do they mean by online extremism and what do they mean by fighting it?
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Damn_Underscore
05/15/19 7:31:02 PM
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Esrac posted...
Well, what do they mean by online extremism and what do they mean by fighting it?


This.

This agreement is absolutely anti-first amendment.
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Esrac
05/15/19 7:45:50 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Esrac posted...
Well, what do they mean by online extremism and what do they mean by fighting it?


This.

This agreement is absolutely anti-first amendment.


I mean, if they're going after stuff like ISIS beheading videos that's one thing. If they're going after, say, right wingers who complain about immigrants, that's another.
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Hop103
05/15/19 7:49:32 PM
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Good, it's the work of Silicon Valley, which is rife with corporate tyranny and it reeks of Macron and Trudeau, the worst politicians in Europe and North America.
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HairyThotter
05/15/19 7:50:20 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Esrac posted...
Well, what do they mean by online extremism and what do they mean by fighting it?


This.

This agreement is absolutely anti-first amendment.

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Bloodychess
05/15/19 7:54:44 PM
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Oh no, we don't want to become China

Sad day for Americans
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RoboLaserGandhi
05/15/19 7:56:02 PM
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Irony posted...
Countries that do sign this are garbage
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thronedfire2
05/15/19 7:57:55 PM
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Well yeah Trump doesnt want to ban himself from Twitter
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HiddenRoar
05/15/19 8:02:37 PM
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Twitter is absent?

Also, meaningless pledge is meaningless. What type of action will they take? Are they going to do UK-levels of policing? No thanks.
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voldothegr8
05/15/19 8:07:05 PM
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We should all be glad we don't have internet like those other countries tbqh. Not to mention many of those tech giants are US companies so technically we are pitching in, just not with government.
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AlephZero
05/15/19 8:09:05 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
I think we have enough monitoring and censorship, thank you.

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Pus_N_Pecans
05/15/19 8:09:37 PM
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Trump would instantly lose his right to Twitter if he were to sign this.
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GasMonkey
05/15/19 9:13:16 PM
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he knows his base
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Questionmarktarius
05/15/19 9:22:52 PM
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TomNook20
05/15/19 9:25:45 PM
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nemu
05/15/19 9:27:48 PM
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Platforms can have their own self-censorship. Anything else can be left to anti-terrorism governmental bodies if there is a valid threat. We don't need them to directly regulate speech. Fuck becoming anything like the UK.
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Questionmarktarius
05/15/19 9:28:44 PM
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nemu posted...
Platforms can have their own self-censorship.

Also this.
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Vindris_SNH
05/15/19 9:29:53 PM
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When you start messing with the First Amendment, it's likely to get out of control.
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Knowledge_King
05/16/19 9:14:10 AM
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UnfairRepresent
05/16/19 9:16:09 AM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Payzmaykr posted...
I think we have enough monitoring and censorship, thank you.

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EternalDivide
05/16/19 9:57:46 AM
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Abiz_ posted...
We have freedom of expression. Can't sign up for anti-constitution shit. One of New Zealand reactions to the shooting was to make a law to arrest anyone who shared the video online. So yeah, no.

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Sphyx
05/16/19 10:42:30 AM
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Honestly i'd rather Ardern spent more time delivering on her party's promises to deal with issues closer to home before she starts championing stuff like this.

Sometimes it seems like people are more outraged that it was shown and shared than that it happened.

That said, i'm not keen on hearing about people editing the video with kill counters and Quake announcer quotes and sharing it with their friends for a laugh, and i won't weep for them if they are charged with possessing and distributing 'objectionable material', even if i distrust the term.
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xsouljah
05/17/19 5:28:09 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
When you start messing with the First Amendment, it's likely to get out of control.

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