Current Events > Donald Trump to China: Want to avoid Tariffs? Make goods and products in the USA

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darkstar4221
05/11/19 4:27:16 PM
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1127210559059972099
Such an easy way to avoid Tariffs? Make or produce your goods and products in the good old USA. Its very simple!

Does this clown not realize that labor costs in the United States is 4-5 times more expensive than in China? The money from tariffs does not go straight to the US treasury as this buffoon believes. It's consumers who pay for tariffs when they pay more for goods in their local retail store.

If Mr. Conservative Donald Dump wants manufacturers relocating their factories to the United States, how about cutting spending? How about lowering the minimum wage? How about not spending any more money on social security, medicare, medicaid, and the military? Why not abolish social security since it's practically useless?
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King_Hellebuyck
05/11/19 4:28:18 PM
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Wow that OP went off the rails quickly
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Antifar
05/11/19 4:29:01 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
If Mr. Conservative Donald Dump wants manfaucaters relocating their factories to the United States, how about cutting spending? How about lowering the minimum wage? How about not spending any more money on social security, medicare, medicaid? Why not abolish social security since it's practically useless?

Because those would be bad ideas
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GasMonkey
05/11/19 4:29:47 PM
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darkstar4221
05/11/19 4:29:56 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Wow that OP went off the rails quickly


Well Trump says he's having great talks with the Chinese government, but he's obviously lying. The Chinese are pissed.
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King_Hellebuyck
05/11/19 4:30:33 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Wow that OP went off the rails quickly


Well Trump says he's having great talks with the Chinese government, but he's obviously lying. The Chinese are pissed.

Im not sure how this is related to what I said.
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Antifar
05/11/19 4:31:27 PM
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I'd rather have one big park than a bunch of lawns that aren't big enough to do anything in
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AdmiralStiff
05/11/19 4:31:33 PM
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I c wut u did thar
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darkstar4221
05/11/19 4:32:10 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
darkstar4221 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Wow that OP went off the rails quickly


Well Trump says he's having great talks with the Chinese government, but he's obviously lying. The Chinese are pissed.

Im not sure how this is related to what I said.


What? I didn't go off the rails. I'm just pointing out that Trump is a liar.
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King_Hellebuyck
05/11/19 4:32:44 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
darkstar4221 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Wow that OP went off the rails quickly


Well Trump says he's having great talks with the Chinese government, but he's obviously lying. The Chinese are pissed.

Im not sure how this is related to what I said.


What? I didn't go off the rails. I'm just pointing out that Trump is a liar.

At least this time you actually read what youre responding to
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TheBlueMonk_
05/11/19 4:33:23 PM
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can't wait for him to turn on Japan threatening more nukes if they dont start playing nice
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RoseLuck462
05/11/19 4:36:16 PM
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We need less intrusive regulations for businesses
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darkstar4221
05/11/19 4:36:43 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
>At least this time you actually read what youre responding to


Actually I did read what you say, I just didn't quite understand your trollish post.
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King_Hellebuyck
05/11/19 4:37:34 PM
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Cool
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EliteLevel
05/11/19 4:42:49 PM
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Manfaucaters.
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Evol
05/11/19 4:43:29 PM
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He needs to go away already.
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darkstar4221
05/11/19 4:46:18 PM
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EliteLevel posted...
Manfaucaters.

I know I corrected it.

Evol posted...
He needs to go away already.

It's bad enough with all the flip-flopping, but now he's blatantly lying. Yeah he is supposedly having great talks with President Xi, but the tariffs are still in place.
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EliteLevel
05/11/19 5:16:33 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
EliteLevel posted...
Manfaucaters.

I know I corrected it.



Still sexist.

Women make things too you know.
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Gobstoppers12
05/11/19 5:18:46 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
It's consumers who pay for tariffs when they pay more for goods in their local retail store.

Alternatively, let's buy more American goods.
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EliteLevel
05/11/19 5:20:13 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
darkstar4221 posted...
It's consumers who pay for tariffs when they pay more for goods in their local retail store.

Alternatively, let's buy more American goods.


People want quality products at a low price. Not overpriced American rubbish.
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Gobstoppers12
05/11/19 5:22:35 PM
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EliteLevel posted...
overpriced American rubbish.

lol are you european or something
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EliteLevel
05/11/19 5:24:40 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
EliteLevel posted...
overpriced American rubbish.

lol are you european or something


Shut the fuck up.

Ill have you know Im British.
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Gobstoppers12
05/11/19 5:26:18 PM
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EliteLevel posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
EliteLevel posted...
overpriced American rubbish.

lol are you european or something


Shut the fuck up.

Ill have you know Im British.

lmao

hahahaha

rofl!!!
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UnfairRepresent
05/11/19 5:27:27 PM
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Honestly I'm not a Trump supporter but the fact he's standing up to China is nothing but a good thing.

I don't think Americans realize how big a threat China are.

They are going to be the world's Superpower in a matter of decades and if we roll over now, the more powerful they will be.

I don't get why the west seems blind to what China is doing.
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UnfairRepresent
05/11/19 5:28:31 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
EliteLevel posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
EliteLevel posted...
overpriced American rubbish.

lol are you european or something


Shut the fuck up.

Ill have you know Im British.

lmao

hahahaha

rofl!!!

A lot of British people don't consider themselves European.

I remember when I was in London once and they had one line for "British" and one for "Europeans" and I was like "Erm... you do realize.... You know what never mind."
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EliteLevel
05/11/19 5:29:18 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
EliteLevel posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
EliteLevel posted...
overpriced American rubbish.

lol are you european or something


Shut the fuck up.

Ill have you know Im British.

lmao

hahahaha

rofl!!!


Another intelligent response from a Trump supporter.
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darkstar4221
05/12/19 12:22:41 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Honestly I'm not a Trump supporter but the fact he's standing up to China is nothing but a good thing.

I don't think Americans realize how big a threat China are.

They are going to be the world's Superpower in a matter of decades and if we roll over now, the more powerful they will be.

I don't get why the west seems blind to what China is doing.


It's a terrible thing, the reason why jobs are being shipped overseas has to with the US government artificially increasing labor cost in the United States by raising the minimum wage, adding all sorts of regulations such as environmental laws and anti-discrimination laws and payroll taxes. In China there is no payroll taxes, there is no environmental regulations and the minimum wage is extremely low. So companies save money by producing goods outside the US such as China. For example sometimes when you get customer support from Amazon, HP, Microsoft, it's an Indian person speaking English.

And Trump's tariffs against China backfired, all it does is raise the price of consumers good that we buy since most of it is made from China.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-tariff-taxes_n_5cd5c12ae4b054da4e891e11?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

Neither China nor any other sovereign nation pays tariffs to the United States. Rather, they are collected by Customs and Border Protection from importers manufacturers, wholesalers or even private individuals.
Goods manufactured in the United States using Chinese parts will be more expensive now, as will retail items that were made entirely in China. The vast majority of those higher costs will be borne by consumers, economists from across the political spectrum agree.


Trump knows nothing about trade, economics, or government he is a complete buffoon. And the person I quoted was an economic advisor to Joe Biden.
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muchdran
05/12/19 12:28:18 AM
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I think the tc is saying, just keep fucking us because why not?
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muchdran
05/12/19 12:29:34 AM
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darkstar4221 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Honestly I'm not a Trump supporter but the fact he's standing up to China is nothing but a good thing.

I don't think Americans realize how big a threat China are.

They are going to be the world's Superpower in a matter of decades and if we roll over now, the more powerful they will be.

I don't get why the west seems blind to what China is doing.


It's a terrible thing, the reason why jobs are being shipped overseas has to with the US government artificially increasing labor cost in the United States by raising the minimum wage, adding all sorts of regulations such as environmental laws and anti-discrimination laws and payroll taxes. In China there is no payroll taxes, there is no environmental regulations and the minimum wage is extremely low. So companies save money by producing goods outside the US such as China. For example sometimes when you get customer support from Amazon, HP, Microsoft, it's an Indian person speaking English.

And Trump's tariffs against China backfired, all it does is raise the price of consumers good that we buy since most of it is made from China.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-tariff-taxes_n_5cd5c12ae4b054da4e891e11?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

Neither China nor any other sovereign nation pays tariffs to the United States. Rather, they are collected by Customs and Border Protection from importers manufacturers, wholesalers or even private individuals.
Goods manufactured in the United States using Chinese parts will be more expensive now, as will retail items that were made entirely in China. The vast majority of those higher costs will be borne by consumers, economists from across the political spectrum agree.


Trump knows nothing about trade, economics, or government he is a complete buffoon. And the person I quoted was an economic advisor to Joe Biden.

Like creepy Joe Biden?

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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/12/19 12:30:30 AM
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So basically if we want jobs why not become a 3rd world country so we can start making happy meal toys? Seems legit
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darkstar4221
05/12/19 12:38:52 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
So basically if we want jobs why not become a 3rd world country so we can start making happy meal toys? Seems legit


Getting rid of the minimum wage, having a free market in health care, and abolishing social security would not make us a 3rd world country.

In 2018 it cost $4.3 trillion just to fund the federal government, and the budget deficit was at $1.3 trillion dollars. We have to cut spending, we have to deregulate, we have to lower taxes.

Trump lowered taxes but he didn't cut any spending, so those taxes that Trump cut which were used to pay the federal budget, we are now paying it through inflation.
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