Current Events > Reporter finds Gavin McInnes has nazi tattoos, Proudboys threaten his family

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Most of these users identify with the proud boys, so being called out makes them upset.
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Do we need to find nazi tattoos to prove McInnes is basically a nazi? Like, how does the everything he does not do enough to prove it?

Proto_Spark posted...

Do we need to find nazi tattoos to prove McInnes is basically a nazi? Like, how does the everything he does not do enough to prove it?

Like praising the Jewish state of Israel for example. Hes basically Hitler.
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post #85 is projecting like crazy, lolololol. speak for yourself.
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Ozai_Was_Right posted...

I'm seeing an awful lot of people in this topic get more upset at what they consider someone mistaknly be called nazis than they are with those alleged nazis harassing a reporter and his family.

I wonder why that is. @Zikten, care to explain what has you so upset?

I'm not upset. All I said was you can't be a Nazi and be friends with Israel. It's impossible. Nazis want to wipe out Israel. It's existence is a defiance of Hitler's plans

bladegash posted...

Why is it the left always makes up some symbolism that needs some serious reach involving racism or some dumb shit, and then retroactively applies them to the subject, and spread it around acting like they just read through a revealing diary.

Nothing is being made up here.

Skrewdriver is literally a White Supremacist band, that is absolutely their logo, and there is literally a photo of McInnes wearing a Skrewdriver t-shirt.
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-nation-state-law-backed-by-white-nationalist-richard-spencer-1.6295314

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/richard-spencer-gives-israel-as-example-of-ethno-state-he-wants-in-u-s-1.5459154

Nazism or white nationalism are not incompatible with support for the state of Israel
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Milkman5 posted...

why do I even bother. It's always the same couple of posters. They can't be reasoned with at all.

lol
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Seriously, a bunch of white nationalists are being rallied to harass a journalist's family and people are trying to deny symbolism is a thing? Seems like someone has to have a swastika sleeve and wear an SS outfit to even be considered a Neo Nazi here
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He might be racist and ignorant but you aren't in an interracial marriage if you are a legit Nazi.

Antifar posted...

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-nation-state-law-backed-by-white-nationalist-richard-spencer-1.6295314

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/richard-spencer-gives-israel-as-example-of-ethno-state-he-wants-in-u-s-1.5459154

Nazism or white nationalism are not incompatible with support for the state of Israel

Dumbest post of the millennium.

if richard spencer supports Israel than he is not a nazi. I refuse to budge on this. you can't be a nazi and be friends with israel

Zikten posted...

if richard spencer supports Israel than he is not a nazi. I refuse to budge on this. you can't be a nazi and be friends with israel

Why not? Neo Nazis dropped the whole genocide thing, why wouldn't they just want a country to push Jews to? Make it easier too if they end up picking the genocide thing back up
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well then maybe we should be more careful to talk about differences between nazis and neo nazis.

Zikten posted...

well then maybe we should be more careful to talk about differences between nazis and neo nazis.

I don't think people are talking about literal Nazis since this isn't Germany and the 3rd Reich is well over anyways
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Antifar posted...

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-nation-state-law-backed-by-white-nationalist-richard-spencer-1.6295314

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/richard-spencer-gives-israel-as-example-of-ethno-state-he-wants-in-u-s-1.5459154

Nazism or white nationalism are not incompatible with support for the state of Israel

What you have shown here is that not all white nationalists are Nazis.

Edit: If Spencer is just saying that other ethnic groups should be allowed to keep their ethnostates, that doesn't prove much either way. Gavin praised Israel's conduct on the geopolitical stage which is much stronger praise than saying, "I wish white people had an ethnostate like Israel."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html

Is this really the hair you want to split?
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Defenders of the Proud Boys are going "They only follow 87% of Nazism so they're not technically Nazis or Neo-Nazis."

Geezus people.
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for the record I did call Proud Boys evil earlier in the topic. and I am not really talking about them anyway. maybe they are nazis I don't know or care. I'm just saying individuals who support Israel I have a hard time calling a nazi.

also, nazis are not the only pieces of shit that exist. you can not count as a nazi, but still be a piece of shit. I feel like some people like to brand all people they hate as nazis and that they think if you say they are not nazis, they think you are supporting them.

Zikten posted...

I refuse to budge on this.

Your dedication to being wrong is admirable.
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Musourenka posted...

Defenders of the Proud Boys are going "They only follow 87% of Nazism so they're not technically Nazis or Neo-Nazis."

Geezus people.

Hating Jews is a pretty core part of Nazism and Neo Nazisim. Check David Duke's interview on TYT where he ripped on Jews the entire time.

When liberals apply the Nazi label to people who praise Israel, they are acting like conservative boomers who call everybody to the left of Joe Lieberman a Marxist. It's just false, it's not about defending anybody.
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What tattoo? I see no swastika.
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Huh just the other day I said Joe Rogan was trash for letting Nazis on his show and had multiple enlightened centrists freaking out at me for calling McInnes a Nazi and defending him. Dont see them ITT
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Drasilor posted...

What tattoo? I see no swastika.

Swastikas are the only Nazi symbolism
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tennisdude818 posted...

Hating Jews is a pretty core part of Nazism and Neo Nazisim.

The state of Israel is not all Jews everywhere. There are Nazis who support it as a "lesser of two evils" as compared to the Muslims of the Middle East, and those, like Richard Spencer, who view it as a model ethnostate.
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See also: Steve King
https://bit.ly/2yOAaaF
https://www.timesofisrael.com/steve-king-shouts-down-question-linking-his-worldview-to-pittsburgh-shooters/
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Antifar posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Hating Jews is a pretty core part of Nazism and Neo Nazisim.

The state of Israel is not all Jews everywhere. There are Nazis who support it as a "lesser of two evils" as compared to the Muslims of the Middle East, and those, like Richard Spencer, who view it as a model ethnostate.

See my edit of post 116.
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Is tennisdude Mal?

bladegash posted...

Why is it the left always makes up some symbolism that needs some serious reach involving racism or some dumb shit, and then retroactively applies them to the subject, and spread it around acting like they just read through a revealing diary.

It's not so much this as it is the tendency for the alt-right to embrace innocuous imagery and then deliberately flaunt it, feigning ignorance when they're called out on it. And yes, feigning ignorance is a deliberate part of the plan.

That's not really the case here though. There's no claim it's not Neo-Nazi imagery. They're going straight to the attack.
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"They're white nationalists, not Nazis" is quite a hill to die on.
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@Milkman5 posted...

why do I even bother. It's always the same couple of posters. They can't be reasoned with at all. I might as well not even post in leftist circle jerk topics

Dude post about games. This place isnt meant for serious discussion about non game stuff. Especially since the user base and mod staff are all liberal cucks that gang up on people and mock them because they have a numbers advantage. Just let it go.
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waaah!
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hockeybub89 posted...

"They're white nationalists, not Nazis" is quite a hill to die on.

#NotAllWhiteNationalists
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I don't really get the need to push the Proud Boys as a Nazi thing. The group lets men of any race join. What kind of bizarre white supremacist group functions like that? That's nonsensical. I mean, the Proud Boys pretty much admit to being anti-woman/anti-transgender. Why not just stick to bashing them for that? That's enough to make them look really bad. The group is undeniably scummy but does everyone have to be a Nazi nowadays?

Grischnak posted...

I don't really get the need to push the Proud Boys as a Nazi thing. The group lets men of any race join. What kind of bizarre white supremacist group functions like that? That's nonsensical. I mean, the Proud Boys pretty much admit to being anti-woman/anti-transgender. Why not just stick to bashing them for that? That's enough to make them look really bad. The group is undeniably scummy but does everyone have to be a Nazi nowadays?

How did you go from just proud Boys to calling everyone Nazis?
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Jesus_Toast posted...

@Milkman5 posted...

why do I even bother. It's always the same couple of posters. They can't be reasoned with at all. I might as well not even post in leftist circle jerk topics

Dude post about games. This place isnt meant for serious discussion about non game stuff. Especially since the user base and mod staff are all liberal cucks that gang up on people and mock them because they have a numbers advantage. Just let it go.

Person who posts about "white genocide" defends Nazis and cries about liberals, more at 11
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Tyranthraxus posted...

How did you go from just proud Boys to calling everyone Nazis?

I find nothing complicated in what I posted. The Nazi label gets throw too causally nowadays. Much like the word cuck, the true meaning of the word has become deluded to the point where people throw it around like they are using the word jerk or asshole or something. The Proud Boys seem like a group of overly macho violent idiots. That's a bad thing to be but it's a far cry from being a Nazi. Though I guess this arguing point is pointless. My distaste for people throwing Nazi around sure as shit isn't going to stop people from doing it so...whatever.

Grischnak posted...

word has become deluded

lol

Also lol more bought/stolen 2003 accounts defending Nazis
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So Gavin basically has tattoos depicting symbols that a straight up white supremacy punk band uses? Is that the tl;dr version of this story?

Are people really fucking defending this shit...
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Well, this is one of the reasons I never liked calling these people nazis. They're obviously sympathetic to actual nazis but if you start calling them "literal nazis" then you open yourself up to the kind of disingenuous trickery you see ITT about supporting Israel... who are basically carrying out the holocaust of our generation.
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Bio1590 posted...

Comfy_Pillow posted...

So what is it a tattoo of? Twiiter isn't loading

He has two tattoos on his arm of a hand holding a lightning bolt which was the symbol of a White Power band. There's also photos of him wearing a T-shirt of said band so it's not something that can be brushed off as a "coincidence".

First of all, I have no idea who McInnes is, but aside from that, I can't find any 'white power' bands. I found 'white noise' which seems to be an electronic band from the 70s, but no indication they were 'racist.'

EDIT: If it is 'skrewdriver,' then yes, they were known supremacists. That doesn't make their music 'bad' though. I just found some on Youtube and they have a catchy tune... not like what I'd expect from 'white supremists.' (I was expecting heavy, heavy screaming metal).
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some people will go out of their way to "trigger SJWs." to argue stances one doesn't even believe just for the sake of trying to make other people butthurt? that is just a cry for help from an unstable person themselves.

"hehe harhar, I don't really care. I just like pissing off the Librulz!" -Underachieving Lame #2394628
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MaverickXeo posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Comfy_Pillow posted...

So what is it a tattoo of? Twiiter isn't loading

He has two tattoos on his arm of a hand holding a lightning bolt which was the symbol of a White Power band. There's also photos of him wearing a T-shirt of said band so it's not something that can be brushed off as a "coincidence".

First of all, I have no idea who McInnes is, but aside from that, I can't find any 'white power' bands. I found 'white noise' which seems to be an electronic band from the 70s, but no indication they were 'racist.'

EDIT: If it is 'skrewdriver,' then yes, they were known supremacists. That doesn't make their music 'bad' though. I just found some on Youtube and they have a catchy tune... not like what I'd expect from 'white supremists.' (I was expecting heavy, heavy screaming metal).

Are you being purposely obtuse like wtf is this post.

"White Power" as in "White Supremacist".

And it objectively makes their music bad content-wise. Like holy shit.
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MaverickXeo posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Comfy_Pillow posted...

So what is it a tattoo of? Twiiter isn't loading

He has two tattoos on his arm of a hand holding a lightning bolt which was the symbol of a White Power band. There's also photos of him wearing a T-shirt of said band so it's not something that can be brushed off as a "coincidence".

First of all, I have no idea who McInnes is, but aside from that, I can't find any 'white power' bands. I found 'white noise' which seems to be an electronic band from the 70s, but no indication they were 'racist.'

EDIT: If it is 'skrewdriver,' then yes, they were known supremacists. That doesn't make their music 'bad' though. I just found some on Youtube and they have a catchy tune... not like what I'd expect from 'white supremists.' (I was expecting heavy, heavy screaming metal).

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Zikten posted...

well then maybe we should be more careful to talk about differences between nazis and neo nazis.

I'm glad you're latching onto the critically important issue of precise semantical differences between subsets of reprehensible peoples, and not the general fact that white supremacists are very loud and popular in America right now.
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I can do both. Like I said, you don't have to be a Nazi to be bad.

Not all bad people are nazis, but all nazis are bad people.
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Antifar posted...

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-nation-state-law-backed-by-white-nationalist-richard-spencer-1.6295314

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/richard-spencer-gives-israel-as-example-of-ethno-state-he-wants-in-u-s-1.5459154

Nazism or white nationalism are not incompatible with support for the state of Israel

Nationalists claim they just want the races separate. Not dead.

Israel doesn't really conflict with that.