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Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 5:46:38 PM #1:	It was a time of 100% pure unregulated capitalism that modern libertarians yearn for. Spoilers: it fucking sucked unless you were rich. Children were forced to work 12 hour days in dangerous factories, most people lived in disgusting slums, and shit like this was the norm: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire Unless you yourself are very rich or totally ignorant of history, there's no reason you should want unregulated capitalism. --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914075218] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>It was a time of 100% pure unregulated capitalism that modern libertarians yearn for. Spoilers: it fucking sucked unless you were rich. Children were forced to work 12 hour days in dangerous factories, most people lived in disgusting slums, and shit like this was the norm: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire Unless you yourself are very rich or totally ignorant of history, there's no reason you should want unregulated capitalism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 12/13/18 5:48:50 PM #2:	Hardcore fiscal conservatives don't care because they are either rich or have stockholm syndrome. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:914075338] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal conservatives don't care because they are either rich or have stockholm syndrome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 5:49:18 PM #3:	Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914075364] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 5:49:32 PM #4:	ScazarMeltex posted... Hardcore fiscal conservatives don't care because they are either rich or have stockholm syndrome. Im gonna wager a guess that most CE conservatives are not rich --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914075379] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal conservatives don't care because they are either rich or have stockholm syndrome.</quote> Im gonna wager a guess that most CE conservatives are not rich</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/13/18 5:50:36 PM #5:	Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. You need to read up on McCarthyism. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914075434] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> You need to read up on McCarthyism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 5:54:52 PM #7:	Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. You need to read up on McCarthyism. You need to read up on the Great Leap Forward, Ceauescuian Romania, etc. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914075673] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> You need to read up on McCarthyism.</quote> You need to read up on the Great Leap Forward, Ceauescuian Romania, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 12/13/18 5:55:42 PM #8:	Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. You need to read up on McCarthyism. Mccarthy did nothing wrong --- https://i.imgtc.com/3owskMW.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:914075718] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> You need to read up on McCarthyism.</quote> Mccarthy did nothing wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 5:56:03 PM #9:	Damn_Underscore posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. You need to read up on McCarthyism. You need to read up on the Great Leap Forward, Ceauescuian Romania, etc. No one is suggesting the U.S. adopt Stalinist/Maoist style communism --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914075733] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> You need to read up on McCarthyism.</quote> You need to read up on the Great Leap Forward, Ceauescuian Romania, etc.</quote> No one is suggesting the U.S. adopt Stalinist/Maoist style communism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NotWhiteNinja 12/13/18 5:56:56 PM #10:	And yet it still had more people who did live well, than communism ever has. Of course, those who really care about an optimal result rather than "pick one or the other" will note that not-unrestricted capitalism has tended to have the best results. --- Nope. I'm totally not the white ninja. You're confusing me with someone else. <cite>NotWhiteNinja posted [p:914075778] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>And yet it still had more people who did live well, than communism ever has. Of course, those who really care about an optimal result rather than "pick one or the other" will note that not-unrestricted capitalism has tended to have the best results.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/13/18 5:57:02 PM #11:	Damn_Underscore posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. You need to read up on McCarthyism. I'll pretend I don't know what McCarthyism is because it's all I have. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914075781] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> You need to read up on McCarthyism.</quote> I'll pretend I don't know what McCarthyism is because it's all I have.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 12/13/18 5:57:31 PM #12:	Godnorgosh posted... Is there any possible political position more neckbeard-y than anarcho-capitalism? it literally tears away everything good and cool about anarchism Anarcho-Communism>>>>>>>>>> --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:914075803] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Is there any possible political position more neckbeard-y than anarcho-capitalism?</quote> it literally tears away everything good and cool about anarchism Anarcho-Communism>>>>>>>>>></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ambience 12/13/18 5:57:52 PM #13:	Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. No one is advocating for communism. Meanwhile, quite a few people on here think that a completely deregulated market would be great. --- A Beach in Winter <cite>Ambience posted [p:914075819] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> No one is advocating for communism. Meanwhile, quite a few people on here think that a completely deregulated market would be great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 5:58:35 PM #14:	Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. No one is advocating for communism. You are wrong. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914075845] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> No one is advocating for communism.</quote> You are wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MakoReizei 12/13/18 5:59:23 PM #16:	"Nobody's advocating for communism!" "But we totally need communism" --- https://i.imgtc.com/3owskMW.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:914075873] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>"Nobody's advocating for communism!" "But we totally need communism"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ambience 12/13/18 5:59:36 PM #17:	Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. No one is advocating for communism. You are wrong. Who is advocating for communism? --- A Beach in Winter <cite>Ambience posted [p:914075883] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> No one is advocating for communism.</quote> You are wrong.</quote> Who is advocating for communism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ambience 12/13/18 6:00:20 PM #18:	MakoReizei posted... "Nobody's advocating for communism!" "But we totally need communism" Not wanting a completely deregulated market =/= communism Educate yourself --- A Beach in Winter <cite>Ambience posted [p:914075922] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>"Nobody's advocating for communism!" "But we totally need communism"</quote> Not wanting a completely deregulated market =/= communism Educate yourself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
B0xxY2J__0s_HBK 12/13/18 6:00:26 PM #19:	Its literally almost 2019. This topic is silly <cite>B0xxY2J__0s_HBK posted [p:914075925] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>Its literally almost 2019. This topic is silly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 6:00:36 PM #20:	MakoReizei posted... "Nobody's advocating for communism!" "But we totally need communism" Imagine being too simple minded to know that Stalinism and Maoism aren't the only forms of communism --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914075938] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>"Nobody's advocating for communism!" "But we totally need communism"</quote> Imagine being too simple minded to know that Stalinism and Maoism aren't the only forms of communism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 12/13/18 6:01:08 PM #23:	He's just going to keep doing his McCarthyism bullshit. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914075968] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>He's just going to keep doing his McCarthyism bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 6:01:50 PM #24:	Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. You need to read up on McCarthyism. I'll pretend I don't know what McCarthyism is because it's all I have. I'll pretend the Cold War didn't happen because it's all I have. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914076003] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> You need to read up on McCarthyism.</quote> I'll pretend I don't know what McCarthyism is because it's all I have.</quote> I'll pretend the Cold War didn't happen because it's all I have.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/13/18 6:02:57 PM #25:	Damn_Underscore posted... I'll pretend the Cold War didn't happen because it's all I have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZVwp5sChe0" data-time=" --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914076054] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I'll pretend the Cold War didn't happen because it's all I have.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZVwp5sChe0" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 6:03:41 PM #26:	Damn_Underscore posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. You need to read up on McCarthyism. I'll pretend I don't know what McCarthyism is because it's all I have. I'll pretend the Cold War didn't happen because it's all I have. I'll pretend the cold war has anything to do with the topic at hand because its all I have --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914076084] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> You need to read up on McCarthyism.</quote> I'll pretend I don't know what McCarthyism is because it's all I have.</quote> I'll pretend the Cold War didn't happen because it's all I have.</quote> I'll pretend the cold war has anything to do with the topic at hand because its all I have </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 6:04:14 PM #27:	Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. No one is advocating for communism. You are wrong. Who is advocating for communism? I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914076108] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> No one is advocating for communism.</quote> You are wrong.</quote> Who is advocating for communism?</quote> I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 6:05:21 PM #28:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. You need to read up on McCarthyism. I'll pretend I don't know what McCarthyism is because it's all I have. I'll pretend the Cold War didn't happen because it's all I have. I'll pretend the cold war has anything to do with the topic at hand because its all I have "The Cold War" is referring to the Eastern Bloc countries in the 20th century. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914076163] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> You need to read up on McCarthyism.</quote> I'll pretend I don't know what McCarthyism is because it's all I have.</quote> I'll pretend the Cold War didn't happen because it's all I have.</quote> I'll pretend the cold war has anything to do with the topic at hand because its all I have </quote></quote> "The Cold War" is referring to the Eastern Bloc countries in the 20th century.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 6:05:22 PM #29:	Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. No one is advocating for communism. You are wrong. Who is advocating for communism? I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist. And im not one of them. I'm a socialist. --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914076164] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> No one is advocating for communism.</quote> You are wrong.</quote> Who is advocating for communism?</quote> I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist.</quote> And im not one of them. I'm a socialist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/13/18 6:06:57 PM #30:	Damn_Underscore has his mommy check under his bed for communists every night. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914076232] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore has his mommy check under his bed for communists every night.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ambience 12/13/18 6:07:52 PM #31:	Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. No one is advocating for communism. You are wrong. Who is advocating for communism? I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist. Are any of these people in this topic? Does TC have those beliefs? Do you have any response to TC besides whataboutisms on a subject he doesn't even advocate for? --- A Beach in Winter <cite>Ambience posted [p:914076276] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> No one is advocating for communism.</quote> You are wrong.</quote> Who is advocating for communism?</quote> I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist.</quote> Are any of these people in this topic? Does TC have those beliefs? Do you have any response to TC besides whataboutisms on a subject he doesn't even advocate for?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WheezinEd 12/13/18 6:08:48 PM #32:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Unless you yourself are very rich or totally ignorant of history, there's no reason you should want unregulated capitalism. I'm both of those things. <cite>WheezinEd posted [p:914076315] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote> Unless you yourself are very rich or totally ignorant of history, there's no reason you should want unregulated capitalism.</quote> I'm both of those things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 6:09:40 PM #33:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. No one is advocating for communism. You are wrong. Who is advocating for communism? I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist. And im not one of them. I'm a socialist. Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914076369] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> No one is advocating for communism.</quote> You are wrong.</quote> Who is advocating for communism?</quote> I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist.</quote> And im not one of them. I'm a socialist.</quote> Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 6:11:04 PM #34:	Damn_Underscore posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Ambience posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. No one is advocating for communism. You are wrong. Who is advocating for communism? I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist. And im not one of them. I'm a socialist. Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? Socialism with democratically elected leaders. --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914076437] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ambience posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> No one is advocating for communism.</quote> You are wrong.</quote> Who is advocating for communism?</quote> I really don't want to mention any names because I don't want to get modded for calling anyone out. There are several users on this board who identify as communist.</quote> And im not one of them. I'm a socialist.</quote> Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 6:14:14 PM #35:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Socialism with democratically elected leaders. And what if the people don't want socialism? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914076589] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> And what if the people don't want socialism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 12/13/18 6:15:41 PM #36:	Damn_Underscore posted... Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism. How does that have anything to do with this topic In fact, how is it anything beyond a shitty "but liberals!" Post --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:914076663] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism.</quote> How does that have anything to do with this topic In fact, how is it anything beyond a shitty "but liberals!" Post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 12/13/18 6:16:25 PM #37:	If youre for pure capitalism or pure communism youre an idiot Because market forces work in some areas, and not in others Hurrrduuurrr this is so fucking simple I just cant fathom how anyone thinks a mix isnt required Now that that stupid, simplistic, obvious debate is over, we should discuss which markets require intervention And its not every single one for fucks sake. <cite>Romes187 posted [p:914076698] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>If youre for pure capitalism or pure communism youre an idiot Because market forces work in some areas, and not in others Hurrrduuurrr this is so fucking simple I just cant fathom how anyone thinks a mix isnt required Now that that stupid, simplistic, obvious debate is over, we should discuss which markets require intervention And its not every single one for fucks sake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/13/18 6:17:24 PM #38:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Socialism with democratically elected leaders. socialism is inherently more democratic than capitalism, and the name "Democratic Socialism" only really serves to obfuscate this fact --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914076742] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> socialism is inherently more democratic than capitalism, and the name "Democratic Socialism" only really serves to obfuscate this fact</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NotWhiteNinja 12/13/18 6:17:43 PM #39:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? Socialism with democratically elected leaders. "People have the right to a democratic vote, as long as they're voting for someone I approve of." North Korea called, they want their election system back. --- Nope. I'm totally not the white ninja. You're confusing me with someone else. <cite>NotWhiteNinja posted [p:914076755] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> "People have the right to a democratic vote, as long as they're voting for someone I approve of." North Korea called, they want their election system back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/13/18 6:18:31 PM #40:	Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914076791] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 12/13/18 6:18:41 PM #41:	"A socialist is a communist with patience" --- https://i.imgtc.com/3owskMW.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:914076803] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote>"A socialist is a communist with patience"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 12/13/18 6:19:02 PM #42:	averagejoel posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there. Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen <cite>Romes187 posted [p:914076820] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there.</quote> Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/13/18 6:20:02 PM #43:	NotWhiteNinja posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? Socialism with democratically elected leaders. "People have the right to a democratic vote, as long as they're voting for someone I approve of." North Korea called, they want their election system back. it sounds better than the US voting system tbh --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914076864] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>NotWhiteNinja posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> "People have the right to a democratic vote, as long as they're voting for someone I approve of." North Korea called, they want their election system back.</quote> it sounds better than the US voting system tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 6:20:07 PM #44:	Damn_Underscore posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Socialism with democratically elected leaders. And what if the people don't want socialism? We have a capitalism government right now and not everyone who lives here is a capitalist, so this is a really stupid point to make. --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914076869] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> And what if the people don't want socialism?</quote> We have a capitalism government right now and not everyone who lives here is a capitalist, so this is a really stupid point to make.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/13/18 6:20:57 PM #45:	Romes187 posted... averagejoel posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there. Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen if the US would stop interfering, the need for a strong state would dramatically lessen --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914076906] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there.</quote> Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen</quote> if the US would stop interfering, the need for a strong state would dramatically lessen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/13/18 6:21:16 PM #46:	NotWhiteNinja posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? Socialism with democratically elected leaders. "People have the right to a democratic vote, as long as they're voting for someone I approve of." I hear what I want to hear and pretend you said it. Next you'll point out I'm being a hypocrite for rewriting what you said. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914076919] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>NotWhiteNinja posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> "People have the right to a democratic vote, as long as they're voting for someone I approve of." I hear what I want to hear and pretend you said it.</quote> Next you'll point out I'm being a hypocrite for rewriting what you said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 12/13/18 6:23:02 PM #47:	averagejoel posted... Romes187 posted... averagejoel posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there. Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen if the US would stop interfering, the need for a strong state would dramatically lessen If theres one thing we know about the state, its that it rarely increases in size and scope and yearns to go away because no one power hungry pulls the levers <cite>Romes187 posted [p:914077000] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there.</quote> Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen</quote> if the US would stop interfering, the need for a strong state would dramatically lessen</quote> If theres one thing we know about the state, its that it rarely increases in size and scope and yearns to go away because no one power hungry pulls the levers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/13/18 6:24:04 PM #48:	Genocet_10-325 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Socialism with democratically elected leaders. And what if the people don't want socialism? We have a capitalism government right now and not everyone who lives here is a capitalist, so this is a really stupid point to make. It's really not stupid at all. As a democratic socialist you require the support of the people. If you don't have that or if you get that but your policies fail miserably, your ideology won't have any influence. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914077049] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> And what if the people don't want socialism?</quote> We have a capitalism government right now and not everyone who lives here is a capitalist, so this is a really stupid point to make.</quote> It's really not stupid at all. As a democratic socialist you require the support of the people. If you don't have that or if you get that but your policies fail miserably, your ideology won't have any influence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/13/18 6:24:40 PM #49:	Romes187 posted... averagejoel posted... Romes187 posted... averagejoel posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there. Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen if the US would stop interfering, the need for a strong state would dramatically lessen If theres one thing we know about the state, its that it rarely increases in size and scope and yearns to go away because no one power hungry pulls the levers those are certainly all words --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914077085] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there.</quote> Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen</quote> if the US would stop interfering, the need for a strong state would dramatically lessen</quote> If theres one thing we know about the state, its that it rarely increases in size and scope and yearns to go away because no one power hungry pulls the levers</quote> those are certainly all words</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 12/13/18 6:25:32 PM #50:	averagejoel posted... Romes187 posted... averagejoel posted... Romes187 posted... averagejoel posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century? communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there. Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen if the US would stop interfering, the need for a strong state would dramatically lessen If theres one thing we know about the state, its that it rarely increases in size and scope and yearns to go away because no one power hungry pulls the levers those are certainly all words Lmfao that they are --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:914077123] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Communism and socialism are very similar. How do you differentiate yourself from the socialist/communist governments of the 20th century?</quote> communism is the end goal. socialism is the path which societies take to get there.</quote> Lmao yeah cant eait for the withering of the state to happen</quote> if the US would stop interfering, the need for a strong state would dramatically lessen</quote> If theres one thing we know about the state, its that it rarely increases in size and scope and yearns to go away because no one power hungry pulls the levers</quote> those are certainly all words</quote> Lmfao that they are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/13/18 6:26:06 PM #51:	Damn_Underscore posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... Socialism with democratically elected leaders. And what if the people don't want socialism? We have a capitalism government right now and not everyone who lives here is a capitalist, so this is a really stupid point to make. It's really not stupid at all. As a democratic socialist you require the support of the people. If you don't have that or if you get that but your policies fail miserably, your ideology won't have any influence. do you think most people want to have healthcare, education, and shelter? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914077152] in Hardcore f... [t:77299446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote>Socialism with democratically elected leaders.</quote> And what if the people don't want socialism?</quote> We have a capitalism government right now and not everyone who lives here is a capitalist, so this is a really stupid point to make.</quote> It's really not stupid at all. As a democratic socialist you require the support of the people. If you don't have that or if you get that but your policies fail miserably, your ideology won't have any influence.</quote> do you think most people want to have healthcare, education, and shelter?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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