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Tmaster148 12/11/18 4:22:08 PM #154:	monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... winged_weltall posted... Tmaster148 posted... Don't put them on tv. No. Put them on, let them make a fool of themselves to the world. Fucking degenerates. You only give legitimacy to it by doing that. Don't give them a platform. again, you cant take their platform. ignoring them isn't the solution. Not giving the view of denial of climate change any sort of media discussion and solely focus on solution to the problem of climate change is taking away their platform. I get this is very hard for you to understand. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:913957959] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>winged_weltall posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't put them on tv.</quote> No. Put them on, let them make a fool of themselves to the world. Fucking degenerates.</quote> You only give legitimacy to it by doing that. Don't give them a platform.</quote> again, you cant take their platform. ignoring them isn't the solution.</quote> Not giving the view of denial of climate change any sort of media discussion and solely focus on solution to the problem of climate change is taking away their platform. I get this is very hard for you to understand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/11/18 4:26:42 PM #155:	NotWhiteNinja posted... monkmith posted... NotWhiteNinja posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... is it odd that people shit on a news station trying to show both sides of a topic? especially when those people claim they show unfair bias? Being unbias does not mean showing crackpot theories as legitimate. there is no counter argument to climate change that isn't crackpot... I'd say the fact that the climate has constantly been going through up and down cycles throughout Earth's history, long before modern human society was a thing, is a pretty good counter argument. and then you'd ignore the dump truck load of statistical evidence showing that while trends show fluctuations throughout geological history, over the last 150 years or so we've skewed well outside the statistical norm? Over the last 150 years or so, we're able to observe much shorter-term variations, much more accurately, than we are for most of history. That's all. you realize they derive much of the evidence, up to within the last 20 years or so, from ice core sampling right? its not like they're pointing at rock samples and comparing trends in that to yesterdays weather... --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:913958225] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>NotWhiteNinja posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NotWhiteNinja posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote>is it odd that people shit on a news station trying to show both sides of a topic? especially when those people claim they show unfair bias?</quote> Being unbias does not mean showing crackpot theories as legitimate.</quote> there is no counter argument to climate change that isn't crackpot...</quote> I'd say the fact that the climate has constantly been going through up and down cycles throughout Earth's history, long before modern human society was a thing, is a pretty good counter argument.</quote> and then you'd ignore the dump truck load of statistical evidence showing that while trends show fluctuations throughout geological history, over the last 150 years or so we've skewed well outside the statistical norm?</quote> Over the last 150 years or so, we're able to observe much shorter-term variations, much more accurately, than we are for most of history. That's all.</quote> you realize they derive much of the evidence, up to within the last 20 years or so, from ice core sampling right? its not like they're pointing at rock samples and comparing trends in that to yesterdays weather...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/11/18 4:28:48 PM #156:	Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... winged_weltall posted... Tmaster148 posted... Don't put them on tv. No. Put them on, let them make a fool of themselves to the world. Fucking degenerates. You only give legitimacy to it by doing that. Don't give them a platform. again, you cant take their platform. ignoring them isn't the solution. Not giving the view of denial of climate change any sort of media discussion and solely focus on solution to the problem of climate change is taking away their platform. I get this is very hard for you to understand. and while you refuse to even try to debate them they stick to fox news, the radio, the internet, and campaign rallies screaming that you're persecuting them. and they keep voting the same dumb fucks into office. and nothing changes. i get that's hard for you to understand... --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:913958338] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>winged_weltall posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't put them on tv.</quote> No. Put them on, let them make a fool of themselves to the world. Fucking degenerates.</quote> You only give legitimacy to it by doing that. Don't give them a platform.</quote> again, you cant take their platform. ignoring them isn't the solution.</quote> Not giving the view of denial of climate change any sort of media discussion and solely focus on solution to the problem of climate change is taking away their platform. I get this is very hard for you to understand.</quote> and while you refuse to even try to debate them they stick to fox news, the radio, the internet, and campaign rallies screaming that you're persecuting them. and they keep voting the same dumb fucks into office. and nothing changes. i get that's hard for you to understand...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/11/18 4:33:27 PM #157:	monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... winged_weltall posted... Tmaster148 posted... Don't put them on tv. No. Put them on, let them make a fool of themselves to the world. Fucking degenerates. You only give legitimacy to it by doing that. Don't give them a platform. again, you cant take their platform. ignoring them isn't the solution. Not giving the view of denial of climate change any sort of media discussion and solely focus on solution to the problem of climate change is taking away their platform. I get this is very hard for you to understand. and while you refuse to even try to debate them they stick to fox news, the radio, the internet, and campaign rallies screaming that you're persecuting them. and they keep voting the same dumb fucks into office. and nothing changes. i get that's hard for you to understand... Idiots do idiot things. Who cares if they go watch fox? Actual journalist should stick to reporting to the facts like climate change is real. No reason to spend time "debating" if it's real when the facts say it does. We can't cater to the lowest common dominator. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:913958608] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>winged_weltall posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't put them on tv.</quote> No. Put them on, let them make a fool of themselves to the world. Fucking degenerates.</quote> You only give legitimacy to it by doing that. Don't give them a platform.</quote> again, you cant take their platform. ignoring them isn't the solution.</quote> Not giving the view of denial of climate change any sort of media discussion and solely focus on solution to the problem of climate change is taking away their platform. I get this is very hard for you to understand.</quote> and while you refuse to even try to debate them they stick to fox news, the radio, the internet, and campaign rallies screaming that you're persecuting them. and they keep voting the same dumb fucks into office. and nothing changes. i get that's hard for you to understand...</quote> Idiots do idiot things. Who cares if they go watch fox? Actual journalist should stick to reporting to the facts like climate change is real. No reason to spend time "debating" if it's real when the facts say it does. We can't cater to the lowest common dominator.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/11/18 4:36:39 PM #158:	Tmaster148 posted... Idiots do idiot things. Who cares if they go watch fox? Actual journalist should stick to reporting to the facts like climate change is real. No reason to spend time "debating" if it's real when the facts say it does. We can't cater to the lowest common dominator. monkmith posted... and while you refuse to even try to debate them they stick to fox news, the radio, the internet, and campaign rallies screaming that you're persecuting them. and they keep voting the same dumb fucks into office. and nothing changes. --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:913958779] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote> Idiots do idiot things. Who cares if they go watch fox? Actual journalist should stick to reporting to the facts like climate change is real. No reason to spend time "debating" if it's real when the facts say it does. We can't cater to the lowest common dominator.</quote> <cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote>and while you refuse to even try to debate them they stick to fox news, the radio, the internet, and campaign rallies screaming that you're persecuting them. and they keep voting the same dumb fucks into office. and nothing changes.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/11/18 4:37:41 PM #159:	They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:913958834] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote>They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/11/18 4:39:14 PM #160:	Tmaster148 posted... They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children. you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas. --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:913958922] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children.</quote> you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/11/18 4:40:24 PM #161:	monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children. you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas. Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:913959003] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children.</quote> you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas.</quote> Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/11/18 4:45:08 PM #162:	Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children. you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas. Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions. they'll burn down the house, the same house you're living in... --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:913959262] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children.</quote> you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas.</quote> Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions.</quote> they'll burn down the house, the same house you're living in...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/11/18 4:48:04 PM #163:	monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children. you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas. Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions. they'll burn down the house, the same house you're living in... You do know that you can let climate deniers deny climate change while working with everyone else on solutions to fix. We just can't waste time with them because they want to "debate" Like i'm not going to waste my time dealing with children who will likely kill themselves playing with fire. But I'll certainly put in the effort to be prepared if my house does catch on fire. You seem to think that the only way to solve the issue is to debate but that's not true. Debating this issue only prevents solutions. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:913959414] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children.</quote> you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas.</quote> Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions.</quote> they'll burn down the house, the same house you're living in...</quote> You do know that you can let climate deniers deny climate change while working with everyone else on solutions to fix. We just can't waste time with them because they want to "debate" Like i'm not going to waste my time dealing with children who will likely kill themselves playing with fire. But I'll certainly put in the effort to be prepared if my house does catch on fire. You seem to think that the only way to solve the issue is to debate but that's not true. Debating this issue only prevents solutions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 12/11/18 5:21:34 PM #164:	Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children. you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas. Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions. they'll burn down the house, the same house you're living in... You do know that you can let climate deniers deny climate change while working with everyone else on solutions to fix. We just can't waste time with them because they want to "debate" Like i'm not going to waste my time dealing with children who will likely kill themselves playing with fire. But I'll certainly put in the effort to be prepared if my house does catch on fire. You seem to think that the only way to solve the issue is to debate but that's not true. Debating this issue only prevents solutions. the debate is necessary because a large number of people support a party that is currently in power that hold the opinion that climate change is overblown/a liberal lie/chinese scam... sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the fact that half the voting power in the country currently believes its all a lie does absolutely nothing. --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:913961225] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children.</quote> you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas.</quote> Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions.</quote> they'll burn down the house, the same house you're living in...</quote> You do know that you can let climate deniers deny climate change while working with everyone else on solutions to fix. We just can't waste time with them because they want to "debate" Like i'm not going to waste my time dealing with children who will likely kill themselves playing with fire. But I'll certainly put in the effort to be prepared if my house does catch on fire. You seem to think that the only way to solve the issue is to debate but that's not true. Debating this issue only prevents solutions.</quote> the debate is necessary because a large number of people support a party that is currently in power that hold the opinion that climate change is overblown/a liberal lie/chinese scam... sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the fact that half the voting power in the country currently believes its all a lie does absolutely nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/11/18 5:31:32 PM #165:	monkmith posted... the debate is necessary because a large number of people support a party that is currently in power that hold the opinion that climate change is overblown/a liberal lie/chinese scam... sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the fact that half the voting power in the country currently believes its all a lie does absolutely nothing. Debate about political points doesn't work the way you think it does. It often polarizes people more! --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:913961760] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote>the debate is necessary because a large number of people support a party that is currently in power that hold the opinion that climate change is overblown/a liberal lie/chinese scam... sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the fact that half the voting power in the country currently believes its all a lie does absolutely nothing. </quote> Debate about political points doesn't work the way you think it does. It often polarizes people more!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/11/18 5:31:58 PM #166:	monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... monkmith posted... Tmaster148 posted... They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children. you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas. Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions. they'll burn down the house, the same house you're living in... You do know that you can let climate deniers deny climate change while working with everyone else on solutions to fix. We just can't waste time with them because they want to "debate" Like i'm not going to waste my time dealing with children who will likely kill themselves playing with fire. But I'll certainly put in the effort to be prepared if my house does catch on fire. You seem to think that the only way to solve the issue is to debate but that's not true. Debating this issue only prevents solutions. the debate is necessary because a large number of people support a party that is currently in power that hold the opinion that climate change is overblown/a liberal lie/chinese scam... sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the fact that half the voting power in the country currently believes its all a lie does absolutely nothing. The funny thing is that the GOP continues to cheat their wins via gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement. So they really aren't that popular and took a huge loss to the house during the midterms along with losing governors. The thing is debating something that is backed up with facts is a waste of time. State the facts, state solutions to problems presented by facts. Let people vote for that. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:913961781] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>They would do that anyways. When a child throws a tantrum you don't just cave in and give them what they want. That's why it's important for actual adults to focus on the facts and ignore the children.</quote> you're not ignoring these children. you're giving them a box of matches and some gas.</quote> Well if they kill themselves that's good for me. There's simply no reason to debate climate deniers and efforts should be put into coming up with solutions.</quote> they'll burn down the house, the same house you're living in...</quote> You do know that you can let climate deniers deny climate change while working with everyone else on solutions to fix. We just can't waste time with them because they want to "debate" Like i'm not going to waste my time dealing with children who will likely kill themselves playing with fire. But I'll certainly put in the effort to be prepared if my house does catch on fire. You seem to think that the only way to solve the issue is to debate but that's not true. Debating this issue only prevents solutions.</quote> the debate is necessary because a large number of people support a party that is currently in power that hold the opinion that climate change is overblown/a liberal lie/chinese scam... sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the fact that half the voting power in the country currently believes its all a lie does absolutely nothing.</quote> The funny thing is that the GOP continues to cheat their wins via gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement. So they really aren't that popular and took a huge loss to the house during the midterms along with losing governors. The thing is debating something that is backed up with facts is a waste of time. State the facts, state solutions to problems presented by facts. Let people vote for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 12/11/18 5:37:47 PM #167:	monkmith posted... spoken like a true cynic! you're not wrong, but you're not going to change anyone's mind by beating them over the head with with your opinion. you've got to give them some form of representation, and show them point by point why their side is wrong. It's not beating someone over the head with my opinion. You're acting like people came to their views rationally and so rational argument will naturally take them out of it. Why do they need representation present to deconstruct their points? What usually happens is instead, their representation gives them new equally flawed talking points to reinforce their view. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:913962066] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote>spoken like a true cynic! you're not wrong, but you're not going to change anyone's mind by beating them over the head with with your opinion. you've got to give them some form of representation, and show them point by point why their side is wrong.</quote> It's not beating someone over the head with my opinion. You're acting like people came to their views rationally and so rational argument will naturally take them out of it. Why do they need representation present to deconstruct their points? What usually happens is instead, their representation gives them new equally flawed talking points to reinforce their view.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 12/11/18 5:55:28 PM #168:	Tmaster148 posted... Don't put them on tv. NPC confirmed. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:913962962] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't put them on tv.</quote> NPC confirmed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 12/11/18 7:36:35 PM #169:	Outright denying climate change is a stupid opinion and shouldnt be heard. Thats going against science and known facts. Debating what to do about said climate change is a legitimate discussion. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:913967725] in CNN: pleas... [t:77292035]...</cite> <quote>Outright denying climate change is a stupid opinion and shouldnt be heard. Thats going against science and known facts. Debating what to do about said climate change is a legitimate discussion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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