Current Events > Piracy is a very interesting concept to me.

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HenryAllbright
12/08/18 8:37:16 PM
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There are so many ways to look at it. None of them right, none of them wrong. Just different.

On one hand, as a creator or owner of content it would suck losing out on theoretical revenue. Not a true loss of assets occurs, but you will be left wondering "what if all those people actually paid full price?" and dreaming about all the cool shit you could have bought. Boats. Cars. Women. And that's gotta make a guy (or gal, let's face it, this is 2018) really mad. I'd be mad if I was in that situation. So believe me, I am not judging.

On the other hand, piracy is actually a very powerful socioeconomical phenomenon. Boy, I sure hope that's a real word. Sounds like it should be.

Anyway, here's an example of how it works:

* Movie company makes movie.

* People with more disposable income pay more money to see the movie in theaters. Or they buy/rent it on Bluray. In other words, they pay to see the movie in the highest possible quality.

* People with less disposable income pirate the movie and watch it for practically free but not in quite as high of quality as if they had watched it on Bluray.

That's a very generic summary, and it doesn't apply to everybody the same obviously. But you get what I'm saying. It's a way for people with less money to be able to have close to the same of a certain type of luxury (and yes, watching movies *is* a luxury, go read a history book if you disagree) that higher earners and wealthy people do. Which, you have to admit, has it's benefits.
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WinterFestival
12/08/18 8:38:31 PM
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Ive recently went pro piracy. You should check out my topic. Essentially, why should I pay for something when others get it for free?
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IHeartRadiation
12/08/18 8:39:48 PM
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Someone should pirate this topic when it gets deleted.
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HenryAllbright
12/08/18 8:42:54 PM
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IHeartRadiation posted...
Someone should pirate this topic when it gets deleted.


Why would it get deleted? This isn't pro-piracy. This is just admitting the reality that there are winners/losers on all concepts. I didn't say whether I was for or against it.
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LightningAce11
12/08/18 8:44:49 PM
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Honestly, a lot of designers, animators etc in development wouldn't want people to pay for a product that they felt has been ruined by executive meddling. They take pride in their work.
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Muffinz0rz
12/08/18 8:46:10 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
"what if all those people actually paid full price?" and dreaming about all the cool shit you could have bought. Boats. Cars. Women.

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RiderofHogs
12/08/18 8:48:55 PM
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Yarrrrr.
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crazygamer21
12/08/18 8:55:03 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...

* People with less disposable income pirate the movie and watch it for practically free but not in quite as high of quality as if they had watched it on Bluray.

This isn't really accurate considering it's perfectly possible to download full bd images. Basically a 1:1 copy of the disc. There are also remuxes, which are untouched rips of the film itself. What you said would only be true of people downloading low-quality encodes. It would be better to point out that people that buy Blu Rays are paying for the physical package, which includes the case, disc, case art, and any other physical goodies.
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HenryAllbright
12/08/18 9:04:44 PM
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crazygamer21 posted...
HenryAllbright posted...

* People with less disposable income pirate the movie and watch it for practically free but not in quite as high of quality as if they had watched it on Bluray.

This isn't really accurate considering it's perfectly possible to download full bd images. Basically a 1:1 copy of the disc. There are also remuxes, which are untouched rips of the film itself. What you said would only be true of people downloading low-quality encodes. It would be better to point out that people that buy Blu Rays are paying for the physical package, which includes the case, disc, case art, and any other physical goodies.


Good points.

Plus, there is also the ease of use as well as a lower % chance of running into problems when watching on Blu Ray as well. Stuff like FF and Rewind working much smoother and better, etc.
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DoctorVader
12/08/18 9:09:29 PM
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What are you talking about? Pirated movies are ripped straight from iTunes and Amazon. It's the same quality as digital, which is negligible to most people compared to BR quality, which pirated copies exist of as well.

I'm terms of movies, I think the studios have done a great job. Each BR comes with a free digital code, sometimes 2. So it's created a secondary market with movies for a few dollars.
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ultimate reaver
12/08/18 9:16:22 PM
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Its mainly interesting because with digital media, you run into a lot of cases where people have little disposable income and were never going to, say, pay hundreds of dollars for Sony Vegas or something. But then stealing it causes no financial damage to the maker because they lost no materials when someone downloaded it and that person was never going to actually purchase it so no sale was lost
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lincoln002
12/08/18 9:45:12 PM
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Piracy in general is theft no if ands or buts. The only interesting thing is why the authorities don't crack down on it as much as something trivial like speeding or rolling a stop sign. The fact that we have red light cameras yet people are perfectly OK with piracy is beyond confusing.
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HenryAllbright
12/08/18 10:53:02 PM
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lincoln002 posted...
Piracy in general is theft no if ands or buts.


I think you can argue it both ways. On one hand, there is hypothetical revenue being lost. On the other hand, there is no such thing as hypothetical revenue. Projections don't count as an asset on your balance sheet. Ask any accountant or financial analyst.
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Rika_Furude
12/08/18 10:57:53 PM
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lincoln002 posted...
Piracy in general is theft no if ands or buts

you are factually and morally incorrect
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YookaLaylee
12/08/18 11:03:41 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
lincoln002 posted...
Piracy in general is theft no if ands or buts

you are factually and morally incorrect

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