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REMercsChamp
12/05/18 11:44:04 AM
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What's up with these AAA gaming companies releasing bugged, barely playable games and misleading us with trailers and marketing material?
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TwoDoorPunkCab
12/05/18 11:48:46 AM
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just cause isn't popular enough to create waves as big as fallout 76
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SmidgeIsntBack
12/05/18 11:50:24 AM
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I thought everyone tuned out on Just Cause after 3 was a disappointment? I didn't even know when 4 was coming out.
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SSJCAT
12/05/18 11:51:19 AM
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i have not heard anything about bugs. seems like its exactly what people expected
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eston
12/05/18 11:53:54 AM
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JC didn't have a lot of expectations I think, where the Fallout series very much does. But tbqh most people are judging Fallout 76 on concept rather than gameplay
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lww99
12/05/18 11:54:42 AM
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...
I thought everyone tuned out on Just Cause after 3 was a disappointment? I didn't even know when 4 was coming out.


I enjoyed jc3. Online was pretty fun too.

Not sure that Id pay full price, but I got the full game for $7.
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LightHawKnight
12/05/18 12:08:06 PM
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Isn't Battlefield V the one trying to outdo Fallout 76?
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DarkRoast
12/05/18 12:10:55 PM
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JC seems like a perfectly serviceable game
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Lost_All_Senses
12/05/18 12:12:39 PM
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Well, somebody wanted this game to fail. You should try love boners. A lot more satisfying than hate boners
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/05/18 12:30:58 PM
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The game is everything it was supposed to be. Just Cause games are never more than a 7/10. They are unapologetically about stupid destructive fun and attaching rockets to bungee cords and watching bullshit happen.
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Lost_All_Senses
12/05/18 12:32:45 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
The game is everything it was supposed to be. Just Cause games are never more than a 7/10. They are unapologetically about stupid destructive fun and attaching rockets to bungee cords and watching bullshit happen.


I feel like this is just RDR2 shit on a small scale.

"This game isn't for me so it sucks" and all that.

Except with RDR2 the world made people seem objectively wrong about calling it a bad game.
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Havik
12/05/18 12:33:16 PM
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Not even close.
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REMercsChamp
12/05/18 12:46:49 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
The game is everything it was supposed to be. Just Cause games are never more than a 7/10. They are unapologetically about stupid destructive fun and attaching rockets to bungee cords and watching bullshit happen.

Right...except you can't even play the damn thing because of the motion blur unless you want to vomit after 30 minutes
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creativerealms
12/05/18 12:50:32 PM
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Just cause isn't as big of a series.
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eston
12/05/18 12:52:11 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
The game is everything it was supposed to be. Just Cause games are never more than a 7/10. They are unapologetically about stupid destructive fun and attaching rockets to bungee cords and watching bullshit happen.

Yeah I've never gotten the feeling that JC games are supposed to be great games, if that makes any sense. They've always had a certain degree of jankiness that manages to work within the context of the game, and they are really fun. They don't feel like AAA games, but they do have a lot to offer
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eston
12/05/18 12:56:38 PM
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Conflict posted...
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But tbqh most people are judging Fallout 76 on concept rather than gameplay


This is completely false and you know it

Can we stop pretending Fallout 76 is being misjudged because it's not the mainline game people wanted? It would not have a 53% on Metacritic and a vicious user score if it wasn't being judged on the gameplay

No it isn't. People have been bitching about 76 not being a "real" Fallout game ever since it was announced and before anyone had even played it. That has been the main narrative from gamers since day 1, and I've encountered tons of people both irl and online who completely wrote it off based on that alone.

Some of the criticism is based on gameplay now that people have actually played it, but the "I'm not playing that shit" people are still overshadowing that
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Rikiaz
12/05/18 1:08:10 PM
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Conflict posted...
eston posted...
Conflict posted...
eston posted...
But tbqh most people are judging Fallout 76 on concept rather than gameplay


This is completely false and you know it

Can we stop pretending Fallout 76 is being misjudged because it's not the mainline game people wanted? It would not have a 53% on Metacritic and a vicious user score if it wasn't being judged on the gameplay

No it isn't. People have been bitching about 76 not being a "real" Fallout game ever since it was announced and before anyone had even played it. That has been the main narrative from gamers since day 1, and I've encountered tons of people both irl and online who completely wrote it off based on that alone.

Some of the criticism is based on gameplay now that people have actually played it, but the "I'm not playing that shit" people are still overshadowing that


"Some of the criticism"

You do realize the people making critic reviews are not fans who just wanted a real Fallout game, yeah? They're people whose job is to play games and review them, that actually played the game and criticized it for being a broken piece of garbage. These people decided a AAA game (the games notorious for having usually bloated positive reviews) was so fucking bad that it added up to a 53 rating. Tons of people have bought this game and shared the same sentiment. Nothing is being overshadowed here. It has strictly been about the gameplay since day one, that is why it got a heavy discount a week after launch. Something that literally -never- happens with games of this caliber.

It got a heavy discount after launch because it was Black Friday. Nearly all games that come out that close to Thanksgiving have huge Black Friday deals. Thats literally why publishers choose to release at that time.
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LightHawKnight
12/05/18 1:09:42 PM
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Rikiaz posted...
Conflict posted...
eston posted...
Conflict posted...
eston posted...
But tbqh most people are judging Fallout 76 on concept rather than gameplay


This is completely false and you know it

Can we stop pretending Fallout 76 is being misjudged because it's not the mainline game people wanted? It would not have a 53% on Metacritic and a vicious user score if it wasn't being judged on the gameplay

No it isn't. People have been bitching about 76 not being a "real" Fallout game ever since it was announced and before anyone had even played it. That has been the main narrative from gamers since day 1, and I've encountered tons of people both irl and online who completely wrote it off based on that alone.

Some of the criticism is based on gameplay now that people have actually played it, but the "I'm not playing that shit" people are still overshadowing that


"Some of the criticism"

You do realize the people making critic reviews are not fans who just wanted a real Fallout game, yeah? They're people whose job is to play games and review them, that actually played the game and criticized it for being a broken piece of garbage. These people decided a AAA game (the games notorious for having usually bloated positive reviews) was so fucking bad that it added up to a 53 rating. Tons of people have bought this game and shared the same sentiment. Nothing is being overshadowed here. It has strictly been about the gameplay since day one, that is why it got a heavy discount a week after launch. Something that literally -never- happens with games of this caliber.

It got a heavy discount after launch because it was Black Friday. Nearly all games that come out that close to Thanksgiving have huge Black Friday deals. Thats literally why publishers choose to release at that time.


Cause that is why RDR2 dropped in price. Oh wait.
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Rikiaz
12/05/18 1:12:28 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Rikiaz posted...
Conflict posted...
eston posted...
Conflict posted...
eston posted...
But tbqh most people are judging Fallout 76 on concept rather than gameplay


This is completely false and you know it

Can we stop pretending Fallout 76 is being misjudged because it's not the mainline game people wanted? It would not have a 53% on Metacritic and a vicious user score if it wasn't being judged on the gameplay

No it isn't. People have been bitching about 76 not being a "real" Fallout game ever since it was announced and before anyone had even played it. That has been the main narrative from gamers since day 1, and I've encountered tons of people both irl and online who completely wrote it off based on that alone.

Some of the criticism is based on gameplay now that people have actually played it, but the "I'm not playing that shit" people are still overshadowing that


"Some of the criticism"

You do realize the people making critic reviews are not fans who just wanted a real Fallout game, yeah? They're people whose job is to play games and review them, that actually played the game and criticized it for being a broken piece of garbage. These people decided a AAA game (the games notorious for having usually bloated positive reviews) was so fucking bad that it added up to a 53 rating. Tons of people have bought this game and shared the same sentiment. Nothing is being overshadowed here. It has strictly been about the gameplay since day one, that is why it got a heavy discount a week after launch. Something that literally -never- happens with games of this caliber.

It got a heavy discount after launch because it was Black Friday. Nearly all games that come out that close to Thanksgiving have huge Black Friday deals. Thats literally why publishers choose to release at that time.


Cause that is why RDR2 dropped in price. Oh wait.

And GTA5 was $60 for long after release so thats obviously a Rockstar choice to not discount their games.
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eston
12/05/18 1:16:57 PM
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Conflict posted...
"Some of the criticism"

You do realize the people making critic reviews are not fans who just wanted a real Fallout game, yeah? They're people whose job is to play games and review them, that actually played the game and criticized it for being a broken piece of garbage. These people decided a AAA game (the games notorious for having usually bloated positive reviews) was so fucking bad that it added up to a 53 rating. Tons of people have bought this game and shared the same sentiment. Nothing is being overshadowed here. It has strictly been about the gameplay since day one, that is why it got a heavy discount a week after launch. Something that literally -never- happens with games of this caliber.

Yes, some of the criticism. You realize metacritic is not the entire internet, right? And saying it has been strictly about the gameplay since day 1 is laughably false. It's like you've been living in a cave.
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Rikiaz
12/05/18 1:19:04 PM
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Conflict posted...
Rikiaz posted...
It got a heavy discount after launch because it was Black Friday. Nearly all games that come out that close to Thanksgiving have huge Black Friday deals. Thats literally why publishers choose to release at that time.


No they don't lmao. RDR2 got no deals. Nintendo games never do. Fallout 4 damn sure didn't in 2015.

High caliber games never get discounts right at launch. Games like WWE 2k19? Sure.

Pokmon Lets Go! was $40 on Black Friday.
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HylianFox
12/05/18 1:26:16 PM
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lol, western developers
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REMercsChamp
12/05/18 1:27:24 PM
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HylianFox posted...
lol, western developers

It's a fucking joke. You look at Japanese games and the quality assurance we get then compare it to these broken ass Western games. It's fucking sad.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/05/18 1:39:51 PM
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From the reviews it seems like the game works as it was intended to?
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eston
12/05/18 1:52:45 PM
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Conflict posted...
Metacritic literally adds up all the critic reviews. Wtf are you talking about with this one. You're deflecting from the loads of people who have owned and criticized the game, to talk about the people who weren't interested in the game to begin with, and pretending nobody is criticizing the gameplay. It's very stupid

Actually I've acknowledged that some of the more recent criticism is about gameplay while the overwhelming majority of the public's criticism since it was announced has been from people who are mad it's not a regular Fallout game. Critic reviews have jack shit to do with that.
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Darksaber310
12/05/18 1:55:11 PM
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Just cause is merely average. Another wet fart in a busy diahrrhea season. Nothing to get worked up over in either direction.
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