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josifrees
11/28/18 11:12:26 AM
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spanky1
11/28/18 11:13:13 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
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Whenever people argue about Pitt bulls, whether they're good or bad or violent or awesome or whatever, nobody ever brings up the fact that they're ugly. That's why I don't like them. They look like monsters. They're not cute and lovable. They have those big huge mouths with lots of gross lip and gum and big meat heads.

Give me a cuddly Dachshund or Rat Terrier any day.


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TwoDoorPunkCab
11/28/18 11:16:30 AM
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i want my own pitbull one day
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EliteC
11/28/18 11:19:46 AM
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 11:23:58 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.
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P4wn4g3
11/28/18 11:26:02 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.
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DemonBuffet
11/28/18 11:29:09 AM
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Pitbulls were bred by humans to be aggressive dogs.
Why do you people pretend that this isnt a fact?
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 11:31:05 AM
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DemonBuffet posted...
Pitbulls were bred by humans to be aggressive dogs.
Why do you people pretend that this isnt a fact?

because assholes like to pretend they aren't assholes by being even more assholish than they were before
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 11:31:40 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


Dog attacks do not happen out of the blue or for no reason. It's not random, there are always precursors and signs that people do not often pick up until it blows up.
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 11:32:21 AM
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DemonBuffet posted...
Pitbulls were bred by humans to be aggressive dogs.
Why do you people pretend that this isnt a fact?


Read my post above.
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P4wn4g3
11/28/18 11:32:42 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


Dog attacks do not happen out of the blue or for no reason. It's not random, there are always precursors and signs that people do not often pick up until it blows up.

Feel free to believe that while everyone else keeps their kids away from you.
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 11:38:23 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


Dog attacks do not happen out of the blue or for no reason. It's not random, there are always precursors and signs that people do not often pick up until it blows up.

Feel free to believe that while everyone else keeps their kids away from you.


Emotional response, logic lacking. I'm an experienced dog owner, I train and socialize my animals, they participate in formal obedience training and I know dog language.

While cuddly Muffie will snap at a kid for pestering her, I would have already recognized the signs in my Corso that she does not want to be bothered and would inform the kid.
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb
11/28/18 11:40:19 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


That's crazy, since the #1 contributor of dog attacks is - you guessed it- the classic vanilla basic af Labrador.
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb
11/28/18 11:41:23 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


Dog attacks do not happen out of the blue or for no reason. It's not random, there are always precursors and signs that people do not often pick up until it blows up.

Feel free to believe that while everyone else keeps their kids away from you.


You say that like it's a bad thing. Repelling vile children and even beta men and snooty bitches is a bonus. Nerds cross the street when I'm walking my bull terrier lol
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 11:43:50 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


Dog attacks do not happen out of the blue or for no reason. It's not random, there are always precursors and signs that people do not often pick up until it blows up.

Feel free to believe that while everyone else keeps their kids away from you.


Emotional response, logic lacking. I'm an experienced dog owner, I train and socialize my animals, they participate in formal obedience training and I know dog language.

While cuddly Muffie will snap at a kid for pestering her, I would have already recognized the signs in my Corso that she does not want to be bothered and would inform the kid.

emotional responses have validity. are you one of those types that things logic trumps all?
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Coastal_elite
11/28/18 11:43:59 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.


Yeah yorkshire terriers are natural born killers lol
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 11:47:32 AM
#69:


Coastal_elite posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.


Yeah yorkshire terriers are natural born killers lol


It's like y'all dont read. Were Yorkshire Terriers not bred to hunt rats? Are they animal aggressive? Go ahead and nod your head.
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Coastal_elite
11/28/18 11:48:41 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.


Yeah yorkshire terriers are natural born killers lol


It's like y'all dont read. Were Yorkshire Terriers not bred to hunt rats? Are they animal aggressive? Go ahead and nod your head.


They're not truly aggressive, they're yappy and annoying little things. Chihuahuas are real aggressive assholes, yorkies just make a lot of noise and posturing.
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 11:50:30 AM
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no dog is truly aggressive lmao
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 11:51:29 AM
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it's just fear mongering from those who are left!
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P4wn4g3
11/28/18 11:58:39 AM
#73:


Thaddeus_J_Pibb posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


That's crazy, since the #1 contributor of dog attacks is - you guessed it- the classic vanilla basic af Labrador.

Labs are neurotic as fuck and their owners tend to be the type that like the idea of a dog- the kind that leaves the dog in the back yard 24/7 and wonders why its still barking.
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 12:01:17 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


Dog attacks do not happen out of the blue or for no reason. It's not random, there are always precursors and signs that people do not often pick up until it blows up.

Feel free to believe that while everyone else keeps their kids away from you.


Emotional response, logic lacking. I'm an experienced dog owner, I train and socialize my animals, they participate in formal obedience training and I know dog language.

While cuddly Muffie will snap at a kid for pestering her, I would have already recognized the signs in my Corso that she does not want to be bothered and would inform the kid.

emotional responses have validity. are you one of those types that things logic trumps all?

Not saying that they dont but that's all he had and was being a bit of a smartass, nothing of substance.
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voldothegr8
11/28/18 12:12:51 PM
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I have to have a BINGO by now
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:15:00 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Not saying that they dont but that's all he had and was being a bit of a smartass, nothing of substance.

so what if he was being a smartass? stop sheltering yourself with the pitbull bubble and realize it's not all about hurting your feelings but people/kids/pets can DIE
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 12:20:19 PM
#77:


catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Not saying that they dont but that's all he had and was being a bit of a smartass, nothing of substance.

so what if he was being a smartass? stop sheltering yourself with the pitbull bubble and realize it's not all about hurting your feelings but people/kids/pets can DIE


Dude, I really don't give two shits about what he said and I don't shelter myself in some "pit bull bubble". I deal with the "dog world" all the time with trainers, shelters, breeders, etc.

Sorry I don't rely on emotional appeals on this topic , I am an experienced owner so I can recognize and analyze issues without having to resort to hysterics.
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:21:57 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Not saying that they dont but that's all he had and was being a bit of a smartass, nothing of substance.

so what if he was being a smartass? stop sheltering yourself with the pitbull bubble and realize it's not all about hurting your feelings but people/kids/pets can DIE


Dude, I really don't give two shits about what he said and I don't shelter myself in some "pit bull bubble". I deal with the "dog world" all the time with trainers, shelters, breeders, etc.

Sorry I don't rely on emotional appeals on this topic , I am an experienced owner so I can recognize and analyze issues without having to resort to hysterics.

they aren't emotional appeals. they are backed by science and reality
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voldothegr8
11/28/18 12:23:00 PM
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 12:27:46 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Not saying that they dont but that's all he had and was being a bit of a smartass, nothing of substance.

so what if he was being a smartass? stop sheltering yourself with the pitbull bubble and realize it's not all about hurting your feelings but people/kids/pets can DIE


Dude, I really don't give two shits about what he said and I don't shelter myself in some "pit bull bubble". I deal with the "dog world" all the time with trainers, shelters, breeders, etc.

Sorry I don't rely on emotional appeals on this topic , I am an experienced owner so I can recognize and analyze issues without having to resort to hysterics.

they aren't emotional appeals. they are backed by science and reality


Like the "lock jaw" or "turning on you" myths? Or posting numbers and stats with nothing else to back them up? You do realize that a dog attack is a complicated event that is caused by a number of factors with precursors right? Is the animal a family dog or a resident dog that lives in the back with little human contact? What is the reproductive status of the dog? Unaltered makes account for the majority of fatal attacks. What is the age of the victim, most common are young and elderly.
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb
11/28/18 12:29:01 PM
#82:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Thaddeus_J_Pibb posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


That's crazy, since the #1 contributor of dog attacks is - you guessed it- the classic vanilla basic af Labrador.

Labs are neurotic as fuck and their owners tend to be the type that like the idea of a dog- the kind that leaves the dog in the back yard 24/7 and wonders why its still barking.


So....you're saying it's more the owner and the environment vs the breed itself.
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:29:01 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Not saying that they dont but that's all he had and was being a bit of a smartass, nothing of substance.

so what if he was being a smartass? stop sheltering yourself with the pitbull bubble and realize it's not all about hurting your feelings but people/kids/pets can DIE


Dude, I really don't give two shits about what he said and I don't shelter myself in some "pit bull bubble". I deal with the "dog world" all the time with trainers, shelters, breeders, etc.

Sorry I don't rely on emotional appeals on this topic , I am an experienced owner so I can recognize and analyze issues without having to resort to hysterics.

they aren't emotional appeals. they are backed by science and reality


Like the "lock jaw" or "turning on you" myths? Or posting numbers and stats with nothing else to back them up? You do realize that a dog attack is a complicated event that is caused by a number of factors with precursors right? Is the animal a family dog or a resident dog that lives in the back with little human contact? What is the reproductive status of the dog? Unaltered makes account for the majority of fatal attacks. What is the age of the victim, most common are young and elderly.

they aren't myths. they are realities that happen
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 12:31:49 PM
#84:


catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Not saying that they dont but that's all he had and was being a bit of a smartass, nothing of substance.

so what if he was being a smartass? stop sheltering yourself with the pitbull bubble and realize it's not all about hurting your feelings but people/kids/pets can DIE


Dude, I really don't give two shits about what he said and I don't shelter myself in some "pit bull bubble". I deal with the "dog world" all the time with trainers, shelters, breeders, etc.

Sorry I don't rely on emotional appeals on this topic , I am an experienced owner so I can recognize and analyze issues without having to resort to hysterics.

they aren't emotional appeals. they are backed by science and reality


Like the "lock jaw" or "turning on you" myths? Or posting numbers and stats with nothing else to back them up? You do realize that a dog attack is a complicated event that is caused by a number of factors with precursors right? Is the animal a family dog or a resident dog that lives in the back with little human contact? What is the reproductive status of the dog? Unaltered makes account for the majority of fatal attacks. What is the age of the victim, most common are young and elderly.

they aren't myths. they are realities that happen


Lock jaws and"turning"is a myth. I like how you skimmed over the rest of my post.
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:33:07 PM
#85:


Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Not saying that they dont but that's all he had and was being a bit of a smartass, nothing of substance.

so what if he was being a smartass? stop sheltering yourself with the pitbull bubble and realize it's not all about hurting your feelings but people/kids/pets can DIE


Dude, I really don't give two shits about what he said and I don't shelter myself in some "pit bull bubble". I deal with the "dog world" all the time with trainers, shelters, breeders, etc.

Sorry I don't rely on emotional appeals on this topic , I am an experienced owner so I can recognize and analyze issues without having to resort to hysterics.

they aren't emotional appeals. they are backed by science and reality


Like the "lock jaw" or "turning on you" myths? Or posting numbers and stats with nothing else to back them up? You do realize that a dog attack is a complicated event that is caused by a number of factors with precursors right? Is the animal a family dog or a resident dog that lives in the back with little human contact? What is the reproductive status of the dog? Unaltered makes account for the majority of fatal attacks. What is the age of the victim, most common are young and elderly.

they aren't myths. they are realities that happen


Lock jaws and"turning"is a myth. I like how you skimmed over the rest of my post.

just like you "paw" over the death toll and say it's racist?
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P4wn4g3
11/28/18 12:33:12 PM
#86:


Thaddeus_J_Pibb posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Thaddeus_J_Pibb posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.

I mean, pits are prone to random and unprompted outbursts of aggression whereas most dogs tend not to be. Any dog can be aggressive if hungry, mistreated, trained in a specific way, etc. sure.


That's crazy, since the #1 contributor of dog attacks is - you guessed it- the classic vanilla basic af Labrador.

Labs are neurotic as fuck and their owners tend to be the type that like the idea of a dog- the kind that leaves the dog in the back yard 24/7 and wonders why its still barking.


So....you're saying it's more the owner and the environment vs the breed itself.

I think I said its both. For one thing, specific breeds attract specific types of owners. For another, breeds have specific personality traits.
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LordMarshal
11/28/18 12:34:07 PM
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Just because they have a history and potential to murder you doesnt make them inherently bad.

actually by definition it does
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spanky1
11/28/18 12:34:40 PM
#88:


voldothegr8 posted...
CV0ojry

Damn.
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 12:41:05 PM
#89:


catboy0_0 posted...

just like you "paw" over the death toll and say it's racist?


There are multiple breeds that are called Pit Bulls and it definitely inflates bite statistics, which I think is misleading as there is only one American Pit Bull Terrier. Add that to the fact that most people don't even know what an actual Pit Bull looks like then it's a clusterfuck. Every stocky, short haired muscular dog is a Pit Bull.

If I had a dollar for everytime someone called my Cane Corso a Pit Bull I'd be able to pay my car off, never mind that that she's much taller and heavier at 135lbs, and if that doesn't help her tail is docked at the 4th vertabrae per breed standard.
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:50:14 PM
#90:


Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...

just like you "paw" over the death toll and say it's racist?


There are multiple breeds that are called Pit Bulls and it definitely inflates bite statistics, which I think is misleading as there is only one American Pit Bull Terrier. Add that to the fact that most people don't even know what an actual Pit Bull looks like then it's a clusterfuck. Every stocky, short haired muscular dog is a Pit Bull.

If I had a dollar for everytime someone called my Cane Corso a Pit Bull I'd be able to pay my car off, never mind that that she's much taller and heavier at 135lbs, and if that doesn't help her tail is docked at the 4th vertabrae per breed standard.

you're distracting the issue by splitting hairs on dog breeds
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 12:52:29 PM
#91:


catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...

just like you "paw" over the death toll and say it's racist?


There are multiple breeds that are called Pit Bulls and it definitely inflates bite statistics, which I think is misleading as there is only one American Pit Bull Terrier. Add that to the fact that most people don't even know what an actual Pit Bull looks like then it's a clusterfuck. Every stocky, short haired muscular dog is a Pit Bull.

If I had a dollar for everytime someone called my Cane Corso a Pit Bull I'd be able to pay my car off, never mind that that she's much taller and heavier at 135lbs, and if that doesn't help her tail is docked at the 4th vertabrae per breed standard.

you're distracting the issue by splitting hairs on dog breeds


It's not splitting hairs. If it's not a Pit Bull then it's not a Pit Bull, no matter what you may think it looks like. If that's the case then a Lab, Golden Retriever, Chesapeake Bay Retriever are all the same thing.
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kingdrake2
11/28/18 12:53:07 PM
#92:


someone mentioned Labrador's. prefer the black Labrador most of all.
creamy white color labrador is a close second.
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:54:06 PM
#93:


Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...

just like you "paw" over the death toll and say it's racist?


There are multiple breeds that are called Pit Bulls and it definitely inflates bite statistics, which I think is misleading as there is only one American Pit Bull Terrier. Add that to the fact that most people don't even know what an actual Pit Bull looks like then it's a clusterfuck. Every stocky, short haired muscular dog is a Pit Bull.

If I had a dollar for everytime someone called my Cane Corso a Pit Bull I'd be able to pay my car off, never mind that that she's much taller and heavier at 135lbs, and if that doesn't help her tail is docked at the 4th vertabrae per breed standard.

you're distracting the issue by splitting hairs on dog breeds


It's not splitting hairs. If it's not a Pit Bull then it's not a Pit Bull, no matter what you may think it looks like. If that's the case then a Lab, Golden Retriever, Chesapeake Bay Retriever are all the same thing.

I'm sure you like to hide behind your dog breeds and you do, because I have no knowledge to counter you. but know this: there IS knowledge to counter you and you are screwing with your karma by defending hash breeds
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voldothegr8
11/28/18 12:56:03 PM
#94:


catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...

just like you "paw" over the death toll and say it's racist?


There are multiple breeds that are called Pit Bulls and it definitely inflates bite statistics, which I think is misleading as there is only one American Pit Bull Terrier. Add that to the fact that most people don't even know what an actual Pit Bull looks like then it's a clusterfuck. Every stocky, short haired muscular dog is a Pit Bull.

If I had a dollar for everytime someone called my Cane Corso a Pit Bull I'd be able to pay my car off, never mind that that she's much taller and heavier at 135lbs, and if that doesn't help her tail is docked at the 4th vertabrae per breed standard.

you're distracting the issue by splitting hairs on dog breeds

Not to mention even if some are misidentified and lumped in, it's still an extremely disproportionate amount of ownership to attack ratio. Currently well over half of dog attacks are pits bull attacks compared to 3% of dog owners owning a pit. Even if it was really only 25% of all attacks coming from pits, that's still a huge discrepancy.
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 12:56:44 PM
#95:


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because I have no knowledge


That's obvious
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:56:59 PM
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oh but WE are the one's being EMOTIONAL over LOGIC get a clue lmfao
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 12:59:12 PM
#98:


voldothegr8 posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
catboy0_0 posted...

just like you "paw" over the death toll and say it's racist?


There are multiple breeds that are called Pit Bulls and it definitely inflates bite statistics, which I think is misleading as there is only one American Pit Bull Terrier. Add that to the fact that most people don't even know what an actual Pit Bull looks like then it's a clusterfuck. Every stocky, short haired muscular dog is a Pit Bull.

If I had a dollar for everytime someone called my Cane Corso a Pit Bull I'd be able to pay my car off, never mind that that she's much taller and heavier at 135lbs, and if that doesn't help her tail is docked at the 4th vertabrae per breed standard.

you're distracting the issue by splitting hairs on dog breeds

Not to mention even if some are misidentified and lumped in, it's still an extremely disproportionate amount of ownership to attack ratio. Currently well over half of dog attacks are pits bull attacks compared to 3% of dog owners owning a pit. Even if it was really only 25% of all attacks coming from pits, that's still a huge discrepancy.


Don't know where you got 3 percent from. Pit Bull type dogs are among THE most common in the country. There are literally millions of Pit Bulls and Pit mixes in the country and they are mostly in cities.
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EliteC
11/28/18 12:59:15 PM
#99:


@Taharqa_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
All dogs are good dogs until they are bad dogs. That's the point of training them. Pits are naturally aggressive though.


Pit Bulls are terriers, literally ALL terriers are animal aggressive. Saying a breed is naturally aggressive without any context is incorrect. What kind of aggression? Animal or human? The two are very different traits and because a dog is animal or dog aggressive it does not mean that it is human aggressive and vice versa. And in the greater scope of things, all dogs have aggressive tendencies, doesn't matter how cute or soft it is.

You need animal aggressive dogs for vermin control, hunting, livestock guarding, etc. Does that mean that the dogs will declare a fatwa against all other animals? No. Human aggression in breeds that are traditional guardian breeds like German Shepards, Rottweilers, Robermans, etc is a trait for them to do their job. Does this mean that the dogs will automatically attack every person in sight? No, it means that they are more aloof with strangers on their property or in protecting their owners, exactly like my Cane Corso.


What is the tough dog pecking order?

Can a Rottweiler take out a pitbull? Why are Dobermans so renowned if it looks like they are much smaller than a Rottweiler?

I think the pecking order goes like this:

- Rottweiler
- pit bull
- Doberman
- German Shepherd

Thoughts? I was not sure where to fit the corso. What about malamutes?

NOTE: THis is all fun, theoretical talk, like could Ryu beat Ken? Or would a bear beat a tiger? I would hate to see any dog fight, I have a soft spot for dogs and I like dogs more than I like most people.
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:59:38 PM
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the pitbull breed is literally a rein of terror and always has been
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prettyprincess
11/28/18 1:00:50 PM
#101:


Taharqa_ posted...
her tail is docked at the 4th vertabrae per breed standard

thats fucked
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