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frozenshock
11/27/18 12:05:23 PM
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https://socialistworker.org/2018/11/26/hog-tied-and-left-on-the-ground-to-die

THE 38-year-old Smith was a beloved member of Greensboros Interactive Resource Center (IRC), a day center for individuals experiencing homelessness, where he often donated his time cutting hair as a talented barber.

On September 8, he was apparently walking in and out of traffic before asking police to help him. After repeated requests, the police eventually called an ambulance. But according to police reports, he was detained, in spite of not committing any crime, and placed in a police car.

Family members say they have since learned that when Marcos panicked and began to kick, he was pulled back out of the car and tossed to the ground. Police bound him with a hobble tie, binding feet and hands behind him, with each connected together. Left like this on his stomach, Smith suffocated.


Seriously, police need to learn how to deal with people who have a mental health episode. Instead, they just assume he's being combative. And now another innocent man is dead.
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V-E-G-Y-
11/27/18 12:07:02 PM
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catboy0_0
11/27/18 12:08:20 PM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Are cops only trained to kill? Idfgi tbh

a lot of cops are trained at descalation and calming people down
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Monolith1676
11/27/18 12:12:11 PM
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Sounds like he was wanting to commit suicide but not wanting to commit suicide.
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spudger
11/27/18 12:12:43 PM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Are cops only trained to kill? Idfgi tbh

M_Live posted...
Everyone involved should be fired & charged imho.

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catboy0_0
11/27/18 12:12:58 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
Sounds like he was wanting to commit suicide but not wanting to commit suicide.

maybe he was hoping to be incarcerated? I mean he was homeless right?
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ManBeast462
11/27/18 12:13:53 PM
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Seems fishy
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Trigg3rH4ppy
11/27/18 12:14:16 PM
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They should bbe made to face the same fate.
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gunplagirl
11/27/18 12:15:36 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Monolith1676 posted...
Sounds like he was wanting to commit suicide but not wanting to commit suicide.

maybe he was hoping to be incarcerated? I mean he was homeless right?

Most homeless people want to remain outside of prison or mental health facilities, even if it means starving or exposure to the elements
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Paper_Okami
11/27/18 12:16:24 PM
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acab
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Darkrobotisback
11/27/18 12:17:30 PM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Are cops only trained to kill? Idfgi tbh

Depending on the circumstances, yes they are trained to both defend themselves or kill someone that may try to attack the officer.

Police officers actually go through a lot of what if scenarios, and you could tell that not everyone who undergoes those scenarios are fully prepared for it.
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A_Good_Boy
11/27/18 12:18:49 PM
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Nothing really seems wrong with this story on its face.
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Typhon
11/27/18 12:25:06 PM
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Any police officer that was present deserves the death penalty for murder.
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Ryuko_Chan
11/28/18 6:07:23 PM
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Typhon posted...
Any police officer that was present deserves the death penalty for murder.

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kingdrake2
11/28/18 6:09:58 PM
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Typhon posted...
Any police officer that was present deserves the death penalty for murder.


cops are afraid of black people as always it's a never-ending cycle.
i expect the community in their town to not stand for this.
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Zikten
11/29/18 3:36:52 PM
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yea cops are never given training on how to deal with crazy people. everyone is just treated as a criminal, even though most crazy people are harmless to anyone other than perhaps themselves. also wtf at leaving him on his stomach. did these cops even graduate from high school? it's not that hard to understand what's gonna happen to someone tied up on their stomach
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ScazarMeltex
11/29/18 3:39:53 PM
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What? The police murdering an innocent person? Whodathunkit?
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VipaGTS
11/29/18 3:40:55 PM
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b-b-BUT....THEIR JOB IS SO HARD GUYZ!
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Kineth
11/29/18 3:43:50 PM
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Homelessness has been criminalized in many places in this country which is already fucking ridiculous, but man.. treating a human like an animal? As has been stated in this topic, those officers need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
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Monolith1676
11/29/18 4:20:48 PM
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Kineth posted...
Homelessness has been criminalized in many places in this country which is already fucking ridiculous, but man.. treating a human like an animal? As has been stated in this topic, those officers need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


Homelessness is not a crime anywhere in the US.
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Kineth
11/29/18 4:23:33 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
Kineth posted...
Homelessness has been criminalized in many places in this country which is already fucking ridiculous, but man.. treating a human like an animal? As has been stated in this topic, those officers need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


Homelessness is not a crime anywhere in the US.


Yeah, ok.

https://www.socialworktoday.com/archive/exc_0518.shtml

The National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty (2016) found in a survey of 187 cities that since 2011 there has been an increase in laws criminalizing homelessness. Citywide bans on camping in public have grown by 60%, bans on begging in public have grown by 25%, bans on loitering have increased by 35%, bans on sitting or lying down in particular public places have increased by 43%, and bans on sleeping in vehicles have increased by 119%. In major cities across the United States there are fewer shelter beds than needed, leaving thousands of people each night with no option but to live and sleep on the street.
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Monolith1676
11/29/18 4:27:58 PM
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Kineth posted...
Monolith1676 posted...
Kineth posted...
Homelessness has been criminalized in many places in this country which is already fucking ridiculous, but man.. treating a human like an animal? As has been stated in this topic, those officers need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


Homelessness is not a crime anywhere in the US.


Yeah, ok.

https://www.socialworktoday.com/archive/exc_0518.shtml

The National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty (2016) found in a survey of 187 cities that since 2011 there has been an increase in laws criminalizing homelessness. Citywide bans on camping in public have grown by 60%, bans on begging in public have grown by 25%, bans on loitering have increased by 35%, bans on sitting or lying down in particular public places have increased by 43%, and bans on sleeping in vehicles have increased by 119%. In major cities across the United States there are fewer shelter beds than needed, leaving thousands of people each night with no option but to live and sleep on the street.


Those are crimes that impact anyone. Being homeless in and of itself is not a crime.
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Kineth
11/29/18 4:29:27 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
Kineth posted...
Monolith1676 posted...
Kineth posted...
Homelessness has been criminalized in many places in this country which is already fucking ridiculous, but man.. treating a human like an animal? As has been stated in this topic, those officers need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


Homelessness is not a crime anywhere in the US.


Yeah, ok.

https://www.socialworktoday.com/archive/exc_0518.shtml

The National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty (2016) found in a survey of 187 cities that since 2011 there has been an increase in laws criminalizing homelessness. Citywide bans on camping in public have grown by 60%, bans on begging in public have grown by 25%, bans on loitering have increased by 35%, bans on sitting or lying down in particular public places have increased by 43%, and bans on sleeping in vehicles have increased by 119%. In major cities across the United States there are fewer shelter beds than needed, leaving thousands of people each night with no option but to live and sleep on the street.


Those are crimes that impact anyone. Being homeless in and of itself is not a crime.


Please stop being dense.

Look up what anti-vagrancy laws are.
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SubtletyRefuge
11/30/18 7:06:45 PM
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Yikes
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EliteC
11/30/18 7:11:14 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
V-E-G-Y- posted...
Are cops only trained to kill? Idfgi tbh

a lot of cops are trained at descalation and calming people down


Yes. Theyre also trained hand to hand combat, using tasers and other non-lethal means of control and how to use pepper spray. Instead they just go like BANG BANG BANG.
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LepartialJury
12/02/18 7:04:54 PM
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The bronx is crazy
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Vicious_Dios
12/02/18 7:11:09 PM
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He should have waited for a few minutes to untie himself. He's lucky they didn't stow him on a horse's back, otherwise he'd be there forever.
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rikasa
12/02/18 7:14:22 PM
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remember police departments won't hire you if your IQ is too high
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SauI_Goodman
12/02/18 7:15:38 PM
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hogtie


The see that the police chief has been playing RDR2.
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The Catgirl Fondler
12/02/18 7:16:06 PM
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Pigs gonna oink.
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Duncanwii
12/02/18 7:17:09 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
He should have waited for a few minutes to untie himself. He's lucky they didn't stow him on a horse's back, otherwise he'd be there forever.

A man died. Please don't make jokes.
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hockeybub89
12/02/18 7:19:20 PM
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You've probably made mistakes at work too, guys! Cops are only human.
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Roxborough4Ever
12/03/18 12:25:23 AM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Are cops only trained to kill? Idfgi tbh


yeah dude, they are....and when i tried to tell you this you called it "conspiracy" and marked me and made me lost karma..........
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Muffinz0rz
12/03/18 12:47:52 AM
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The fuck? You can die from being hogtied?
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L0Z
12/05/18 3:51:28 AM
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Kineth posted...
Monolith1676 posted...
Kineth posted...
Homelessness has been criminalized in many places in this country which is already fucking ridiculous, but man.. treating a human like an animal? As has been stated in this topic, those officers need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


Homelessness is not a crime anywhere in the US.


Yeah, ok.

https://www.socialworktoday.com/archive/exc_0518.shtml

The National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty (2016) found in a survey of 187 cities that since 2011 there has been an increase in laws criminalizing homelessness. Citywide bans on camping in public have grown by 60%, bans on begging in public have grown by 25%, bans on loitering have increased by 35%, bans on sitting or lying down in particular public places have increased by 43%, and bans on sleeping in vehicles have increased by 119%. In major cities across the United States there are fewer shelter beds than needed, leaving thousands of people each night with no option but to live and sleep on the street.


Dude wtf its illegal to sleep in your car? I guess they want people to get into an accident if they are tired instead of pulling off the road
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Perascamin
12/05/18 4:10:07 AM
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Man hog died as police shot up 97 times
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Trickfinger
12/05/18 4:12:54 AM
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fuckin morons
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